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Boiled Water posted:I don't disagree, it's a great editor, but the learning curve is so steep it might as well be a circle
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treating editors as a religion is weird. vscode is the path of least resistance in 2021 but vim and emacs are fine if you prefer them. save your arguing for the important issues, such as what font you use
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May 25, 2021 21:33
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i set text editors to comic sans to appropriately convey just how much of a joke anything is that i edit in an editor (vs a proper ide)
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May 25, 2021 21:35
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Soricidus posted:treating editors as a religion is weird. vscode is the path of least resistance in 2021 but vim and emacs are fine if you prefer them. linux users fight over which of there terrible text editors is better when the reality is they're both a piece of poo poo just like their os. it took microsoft to create the first working text editor for linux and even then its not good and runs on javascript
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May 25, 2021 21:41
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just use whatever you like and are comfortable with however, emacs WILL give you RSI, i've seen it happen with coworkers
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May 25, 2021 21:43
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they then code around the RSI-giving elements of emacs, buy kineses, and continue emacs-ing away
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May 25, 2021 21:46
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editor fonts: fira code or gtfo
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May 25, 2021 21:54
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Kazinsal posted:editor font arguments: fire all coders, now gtfo
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May 25, 2021 21:59
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Kazinsal posted:editor fonts: fira code or gtfo only if your ide supports ligatures, if it doesn't get a better ide
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May 25, 2021 22:04
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ligatures are waxed mustaches of dev environment dress up
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May 25, 2021 22:14
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emacs is the way and the light especially now that the LSP language server stuff has really solidified and magit and org-mode? goddamn it's nice
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May 25, 2021 22:15
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ligatures are stupid
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May 25, 2021 22:36
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ynohtna posted:ligatures are waxed mustaches of dev environment dress up
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May 25, 2021 22:40
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eurrrrrrgh should i try and write my own cool html UI for this thing im making or should i stick with this one i grabbed from someone else but is proving to need me to gut a lot of poo poo which is turning into its own challenge of "can i remove this bit without the whole thing having a stroke"
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May 25, 2021 22:44
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I have a .emacs because dicking around I enabled line numbers I installed treemacs to get a project view M-x treemacs My project view has line numbers The minimap plugin just creates a copy of your current buffer with braille characters (or Profont or whatever) at text size 3 Please stop putting everything in effing text buffers. Deprecate terminals. Make the mouse behave normally.
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May 25, 2021 22:48
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Ocean of Milk posted:I have a .emacs because dicking around emacs adherents are the unix version of george rr martin using wordstar 4.0 to write the game of thrones books in 2021
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May 25, 2021 23:08
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Works for me  although I don't really use the treemacs stuff.emacs currently has two line number systems, a nicer newer one that uses "display-line-number-mode" and an older shittier deprecated one called "linum-mode" that can often wind up doing poo poo like that. It sucks that it's still around but things are always getting better
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May 26, 2021 00:09
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ynohtna posted:ligatures are waxed mustaches of dev environment dress up so they let everyone know you are one cool dude?
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May 26, 2021 01:46
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Boiled Water posted:emacs being great is a lisp lie told to people who like just a little more lisp one of my favourite board games has (what the designer readily admits is) a learning curve that's more like a learning spike hbag posted:doom emacs is emacs but with vim keybindings then what is dr spacemacs
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Armitag3 posted:You know what, just don't learn a single editor and go hard on low-code. ah, an xcode developer I see
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May 26, 2021 01:59
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Kazinsal posted:emacs adherents are the unix version of george rr martin using wordstar 4.0 to write the game of thrones books in 2021 Must make them hugely efficient just like George
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May 26, 2021 02:04
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hbag posted:eurrrrrrgh writing your own UI sucks, but editing someone else's UI also sucks so it's really kind of a case by case thing.
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May 26, 2021 02:31
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Share Bear posted:just use whatever you like and are comfortable with Yeah all I really care about is not loving up my wrists permanently because I decided to make a career out of computer touching. My mom needed surgery on both wrists from carpal tunnel because she uses a keyboard all day. The minor inconvenience of adapting to an ergonomic keyboard and learning vim navigation has been worth it to not have to deal with all that.
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May 26, 2021 02:53
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I keep telling myself I'll finally stick to vim when rsi sets in
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May 26, 2021 03:02
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none of you know the pain of ISPF editor and it shows
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May 26, 2021 03:04
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Oh and I only throw out VS code as a rec if your workplace won't pony up for IntelliJ. Code is cool and good but IntelliJ is the real poo poo. (But I'd never pay for it myself.)
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carry on then posted:none of you know the pain of ISPF editor and it shows never worked with any mainframes so nope. kinda want to see how bad it is now tho
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May 26, 2021 03:23
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Kazinsal posted:never worked with any mainframes so nope. kinda want to see how bad it is now tho quote:To insert a line between existing lines, type I over a number in the line command field and press Enter. The line command field is the 6-column row displayed on the left side of the panel when you create or edit a data set. The new line is inserted after the one on which you typed the I .
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May 26, 2021 03:25
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thanks for the loving ISPF flashbacks, rear end in a top hat. I use emacs but I remap caps to ctrl and mostly use evil anyway. I’d rather use IntelliJ but I’m doing opsy things so I’m in and out of file formats that IntelliJ and vscode don’t know what the gently caress to do with and it’s nice to have one editor with consistent key binds and behavior.
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May 26, 2021 03:33
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shoeberto posted:Oh and I only throw out VS code as a rec if your workplace won't pony up for IntelliJ. Code is cool and good but IntelliJ is the real poo poo. (But I'd never pay for it myself.) IntelliJ community edition is just as good poo poo for most use cases, and doesn't cost a dime. I guess if you're doing webshit then you might need to pony up.
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May 26, 2021 04:39
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Fortaleza posted:emacs currently has two line number systems, a nicer newer one that uses "display-line-number-mode" and an older shittier deprecated one called "linum-mode" that can often wind up doing poo poo like that. It sucks that it's still around but things are always getting better it's very linux to then have two options to do so, broken in different ways. well done.
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May 26, 2021 05:20
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I type in a big IDE with my wife
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Fortaleza posted:emacs is the way and the light ah yes, org-mode. nothing like learning a dsl within a dsl for a loving TODO app quote:You might want to automatically keep track of when a state change occurred and maybe take a note about this change. You can either record just a timestamp, or a time-stamped note. These records are inserted after the headline as an itemized list, newest first43. When taking a lot of notes, you might want to get the notes out of the way into a drawer (see Drawers). Customize the variable org-log-into-drawer to get this behavior—the recommended drawer for this is called ‘LOGBOOK’44. You can also overrule the setting of this variable for a subtree by setting a ‘LOG_INTO_DRAWER’ property. so goddamn nice meanwhile, outside in the sun, it's 2021 and normies are saying with their mouths 'hello my robotic assistant who lives in the cloud, please buy me a suitcase with next-day delivery and book me a flight to Honolulu for Saturday morning'
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NihilCredo posted:ah yes, org-mode. nothing like learning a dsl within a dsl for a loving TODO app so what you’re saying is we’re all using command lines now, but the nerds still have manpages while the normies get to just try to guess what commands exist and what arguments each takes
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necrotic posted:ligatures are stupid
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May 26, 2021 11:45
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fart simpson posted:a senior software guy at work just sent an email saying he failed to debug a critical issue am i misunderstanding something here or is he setting the url as the output file name
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May 26, 2021 11:53
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Yes that appears to be the case.
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May 26, 2021 11:55
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he’s also sending his curl —version to another guy as if to say the other guy is responsible for debugging this
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He should email the author of curl.
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