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Except there's no romcom where a bunch of men decide the woman is better off with someone else and create a mass conspiracy to lie to their friend/woman's boyfriend about her fidelity. That's not a thing! The men in popular romcoms are small doctors whose first wife died of something nonspecific and now he has to raise his kids on his lonely $3mil lake shore mansion and this lady with amnesia is going to help him rebuild his dead wife's father's canoe. e: I'm just saying "women's popular media is to blame for men's bad behaviour" is a hell of a take from the gender that made step-sibling porn hugely popular. Sisal Two-Step fucked around with this message at 18:03 on May 29, 2021 |
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Sisal Two-Step posted:Except there's no romcom where a bunch of men decide the woman is better off with someone else and create a mass conspiracy to lie to their friend/woman's boyfriend about her fidelity. That's not a thing! The men in popular romcoms are small doctors whose first wife died of something nonspecific and now he has to raise his kids on his lonely $3mil lake shore mansion and this lady with amnesia is going to help him rebuild his dead wife's father's canoe. Hallmark movies are their own sub genre of romcom
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May 29, 2021 18:03
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And Say Anything came out like 40 years ago. What are we doing here man
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May 29, 2021 18:05
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Not true! Often times they're small town boys with gently caress all for income or ability to support themselves and yet nevertheless convince the female lead to cheat on their lawyer bf/fiancee.
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May 29, 2021 18:05
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Sisal Two-Step posted:e: I'm just saying "women's popular media is to blame for men's bad behaviour" is a hell of a take from the gender that made step-sibling porn hugely popular. It’s the adult version of “anything teenage girls like, every other demographic will look down on”. Honestly.
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May 29, 2021 18:07
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Sisal Two-Step posted:And Say Anything came out like 40 years ago. What are we doing here man Trying to tease out the inparsable influence of lovely things that have come to fall under the umbrella of "romcom poisoning" gently caress yeah let's have this pointless sisyphian argument!
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May 29, 2021 18:08
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Sisal Two-Step posted:e: I'm just saying "women's popular media is to blame for men's bad behaviour" is a hell of a take from the gender that made step-sibling porn hugely popular. nope. women are absolutley complicit in the popularization of pseudo-incest. it's consistently one of the top markets for smutty ebooks, to the point where amazon has to whack-a-mole whatever new covert terms the authors use to let their audiences know They Got What You Need. the idea that it's a thing because the owner of one tube site liked it and put it on the front page is a popular meme but ultimately inaccurate.
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May 29, 2021 18:10
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Regardless of whether a specific circumstance has had a movie made about it romcoms teach men to bulldoze over women's boundaries and that regardless of how manipulative or hosed up your actuons are if its because of love its ok and she'll forgive you. The Grand Gesture of Love just needs ro be large and public enough that she can't say no/has to forgive or she is a total bitch that deserves to be alone. Men also watch romcoms too, especially men that can't find love and want to figure out what they are doing wrong. Its stupid and toxic and I'm speaking from experience.
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May 29, 2021 18:10
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Quackles posted:AITA for telling my gf witchcraft isn’t real and that it’s impossible to bring her dog back? From comments: quote:I practice Necromancy myself, and even I looked at this and thought "oh no... not another one."
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May 29, 2021 18:12
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I wouldn't say that romance tropes are responsible for lovely men behaving like shits, but I think there is a valid argument that they (historically anyway) have presented abusive behaviour as 'passionate' or 'romantic', which must surely have affected how some consumers of romance fiction react when they themselves end up in abusive relationships, particularly if they are very young and inexperienced.
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May 29, 2021 18:13
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I think the more likely idea is that the already existing conceptions influenced a genre rather than a genre creating it. Like how a lot of sitcoms in the 90s where homophobic as gently caress, but sitcoms did not create homophobia
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May 29, 2021 18:13
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DreamingofRoses posted:It’s the adult version of “anything teenage girls like, every other demographic will look down on”. Honestly. It's this. Men love to say things like "romcoms are responsible" without examining why they might think that. Hey geniuses, plenty of media aimed primarily at men depict women as trophies to be won. Let's talk about how maybe that poisons women's approaches to love and romance!
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May 29, 2021 18:15
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it's honestly very microoffensive against me that women's media portrays behavior that i can't directly model in order to win sex. all any women has to do to win me as a BF is tell me i'm handsome and to get in the robot, which they can learn by watching any of the anime i've listed under the REQUIRED VIEWING heading in my facebook profile. typical gender hypocracy.
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May 29, 2021 18:15
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think the more likely idea is that the already existing conceptions influenced a genre rather than a genre creating it. It’s this, honestly. I listen to a podcast called Fated Mates and the two women on it are a romance novel writer and a romance critic and it’s always…interesting when they review a book from the 80’s and go on to discuss how things in the genre develop.
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May 29, 2021 18:17
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I'm ngl, you almost had me, Phiz
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May 29, 2021 18:18
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Are we limiting romcoms to just movies appealing towards women, or can it include any movie that is a comedy focusing on romance? Cause i think things like Wedding Crashers or several Adam Sandler films would fall into the latter, and they can have some messed up romantic morals too. Content! AITA for 'emasculating' my husband infront of his parents? quote:throwaway because i do not want my BIL or husband to find my real account
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May 29, 2021 18:22
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Sisal Two-Step posted:I'm ngl, you almost had me, Phiz the first comment is seriousposting, women get Troublingly Horny over PI in the ebook erotica market. ~don't ask me how i know  ~
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May 29, 2021 18:24
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I suspect the fellow is fairly fresh off the boat from the Philippines and would not surprise me if he brought his family to the States. The worst of the hate for him seem to be centered his unswerving commitment to his family. Telling a family focused Filipino to not send money home or to not look after a parent no matter what is the equivalent to asking a devout Muslim to drop in and have a lunch time beers during Ramadan, a devout Catholic not to worry about a baptism for their child or wondering why a Jew is not excited about coming 'round for a Saturday busy bee and prawn BBQ. It just does not enter the thinking to do something so far against the way they were raised. I have workmates that take out/want loans to send home to their parents that have quit work because their child (my workmate) has made it and therefore the parents can retire but the parents still need money for the rest of their kids. It is ingrained and crazy to me but to suggest they should save for their own future will get you a lecture about how rich (ie, any Americano) people don't understand poor (ie any Filipino) people and rich people are selfish for not giving all that their family asks for if they have it (which is neatly the entire monthly salary each month for my workmate). And in the case of this story, the couple are on a combined half mill a year, so a few k here or there is peanuts. The more weird ones for me are the almost complete disregard he has for her feelings around her dad's passing - it is whiplash of the power I have rarely had. The non-cleaning thing is grotty but they should just hire a weekly helper or something because again they have so much money she wants to quarantine her earnings off from him.
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May 29, 2021 18:24
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Look, you're not gonna stop me from blaming past and current romcoms for lying to the movie going public that getting into hottubs fully dressed to make out is in anyway romantic or fun. One I watched recently had just an excruciating "best friend can't stop talking about how lead female needs a deep dicking" -> "man is a nerdyish modern man drug dealer loser trying to get laid with quirkyness and compensation in goods and its supposed to be funny because its pathetic instead of unsettling" back to back combo of scenes.
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May 29, 2021 18:25
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:the first comment is seriousposting, women get Troublingly Horny over PI in the ebook erotica market. It’s not even psuedoincest for women. I grew up on the internet, especially the fan fiction areas, and I would love to remind people why the Weasly twins and the Winchester brothers have so many stories about them. (See also: the twins from Ouran). Back to regularly scheduled content: My (26M) gf (25F) is obsessed with Arctic exploration and has written fanfic/erotica about it. What should I do? quote:I know that a lot of people will only read the title and say that I shouldn't 'do' anything, but hear me out. Using a throwaway because she knows my username.
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May 29, 2021 18:33
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DemoneeHo posted:Are we limiting romcoms to just movies appealing towards women, or can it include any movie that is a comedy focusing on romance? Cause i think things like Wedding Crashers or several Adam Sandler films would fall into the latter, and they can have some messed up romantic morals too. Yes, this is an interesting point. Where do Judd Apatow movies fall on the spectrum? Anyway. I don't know why this conversation got me instantly angry. A lifetime of being told that the things I like are bad and embarrassing and stupid, I guess. DreamingofRoses posted:It’s not even psuedoincest for women. I grew up on the internet, especially the fan fiction areas, and I would love to remind people why the Weasly twins and the Winchester brothers have so many stories about them. (See also: the twins from Ouran). The Terror?
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May 29, 2021 18:34
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I don't even get why romcoms are being talked about like they're for women only. There's a poo poo ton of them aimed at men, they're just billed as comedies(about a romance) instead of a romance(with comedy). And in all honesty for all the toxic they promote, the Hollywood "one true love" nonsense is in everything media we've consumed since the stone ages and that leads to people not taking no for an answer just as bad.
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May 29, 2021 18:40
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For arctic girlfriend: "I'm gonna get you wetter than global warming"Sisal Two-Step posted:Yes, this is an interesting point. Where do Judd Apatow movies fall on the spectrum? I 100% consider those things RomComs. Funny People, for example, is for a large part of its run time attempt at Romcom genres and conventions using its tropes to their more natural ends.
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May 29, 2021 18:42
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AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion?quote:My wife has always, consistently, talked about having a troubled relationship with her father.
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May 29, 2021 18:45
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Romcom is a land of contrasts.ad090 posted:AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion? I'm going to set myself on fire.
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May 29, 2021 18:50
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Now its not enough to diagnose, but the preliminary results suggest Terminal Fuckhead
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May 29, 2021 18:52
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ad090 posted:AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion? quote:No, she’s never done anything like that. I'd consider any situation where she killed this OP to be a case of clear cut self defense.
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May 29, 2021 18:52
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FoolyCharged posted:I don't even get why romcoms are being talked about like they're for women only. There's a poo poo ton of them aimed at men, they're just billed as comedies(about a romance) instead of a romance(with comedy). Yeah they're romcoms you've got a point. They're just marketed differently. Romances as they are portrayed in entertainment are generally bad especially when comedy is supposed to play any kind of part.
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May 29, 2021 18:54
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ad090 posted:AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion? "The dad is normal around me, my wife must be full of bad humours and hysterical."  I really thought that humans figured out that there's more to the world than just they see when they're like, toddlers but I guess not everyone!!
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May 29, 2021 18:59
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Lets split the difference and just say all* movie relationships are bad and terrible for basing your own ideals on romance on. But as pervasive as those toxic lessons are, you can't blame hollywood for being a bad romantic partner, that's all on you in the end. *Gomez and Morticia Addams are the exception ad090 posted:AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion? The only appropriate thing to do here is for the wife to blow up her husband
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May 29, 2021 19:03
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That fucko sees abusive dad like, three times a YEAR and thinks he's in a better position to judge his true character than his wife, who grew up with him. Throw out the trash woman, throw it all the way out. (I looked up the original post in Reddit and was heartened by how unanimous the response was)
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May 29, 2021 19:08
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DemoneeHo posted:Lets split the difference and just say all* movie relationships are bad and terrible for basing your own ideals on romance on. But as pervasive as those toxic lessons are, you can't blame hollywood for being a bad romantic partner, that's all on you in the end. No, but I sure as hell had to undo a lot of Disney love brainwashing when I hit puberty. It turns out the real deal is completely different than what you've been shown outside of your parents(if you're lucky)
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May 29, 2021 19:08
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LadyPictureShow posted:This guy's posts are a doozy, but he luckily summed everything up in one awful package! Is it a flag that the therapist went with the love languages angle? PHIZ KALIFA posted:whatever new covert terms the authors use to let their audiences know They Got What You Need. lemme try some on for size. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 19:31 on May 29, 2021 |
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May 29, 2021 19:20
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LadyPictureShow posted:His individual posts on each topic are even worse, which I'm sure you can believe. Can you please DM me a link or his Reddit username? I’m searching all over the place and cannot find these posts. I want to tell him what an immense piece of poo poo he is. This poor woman needs to escape three years ago.
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May 29, 2021 19:22
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My boyfriend (22) got a bit too close to his female friend (24) while she was on MDMA. Is this a deal breaker?quote:Letting you all know, this has happened for the second time.
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May 29, 2021 19:34
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ad090 posted:AITA for telling my wife she’s blowing her dad’s behavior out of proportion? oh you dumb motherfuckerrrrr
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DemoneeHo posted:*Gomez and Morticia Addams are the exception I dunno, Gomez gives terrible sex advice. No giggling? No hand puppets? C'mon Gomez.
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May 29, 2021 19:37
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I've always mentally subbed sitcom romances when I see the term "romcom poisoning." That is a genre where most relationships arise from one party grossly bowling over the boundary of another, only to win them over with a grand gesture in the end. It didn't even occur to me that it might refer to actual romcoms because in my mind that is the Julia Roberts genre.kimbo305 posted:Is it a flag that the therapist went with the love languages angle? Is there some particular issue with love languages, other than being pretty superficial? I feel like it's a reasonable starting point for couples that have somehow wound up married for years despite never having successfully communicated with one another.
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I was trying to think of non-traditional romcoms and I would say Dumb and Dumber is one although it shows how the trope is insanely dumb and wouldn't actually work out.
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It's not even just romcoms in particular but pretty much every other form of media that takes its cues on them for romantic subplots. Everything from cartoons, anime and video games to action movies, sitcoms and prestige television has the same One True Love formula and all its attendant tropes. I mean gently caress, webcomics have healthier depictions of relationships, mostly because they sometimes actually depict breakups and having civil relationships with exes.
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