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muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The original ending of Rampage had the friendly giant albino gorilla dying but the Rock threatened to walk unless they changed it to a happier ending where it survives, and later bragged about it in interviews
https://www.businessinsider.com/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-almost-quit-rampage-over-ending-2018-4

Changing the ending does leave it in a kind of awkward position because the giant gorilla also murdered a whole bunch of people in the back half of the movie, including the main villain.

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BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe
I think they are both sincere and nice guys outside of their careers. Bautista seems more creative and wants to explore that more seriously and The Rock seems more brand oriented and build that aspect more seriously.

They both provide different and entertaining content without, as far as I can tell, being garbage human beings so... Win/win.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

BonoMan posted:

I think they are both sincere and nice guys outside of their careers. Bautista seems more creative and wants to explore that more seriously and The Rock seems more brand oriented and build that aspect more seriously.

They both provide different and entertaining content without, as far as I can tell, being garbage human beings so... Win/win.

Blackmailing his director & producers by threatening to walk out on a project halfway through production unless they made drastic alterations to the film seems ...... not nice.

But that also assumes he was telling the truth in those interviews and not making poo poo up for funsies :shrug:


E: the producer picked the name out of a list of properties that the studio owned the rights to back in 2011, Johnson was attached to star in mid 2015 and then they started shopping around for scripts and a director. I guess the Rock's "brand" was always the major selling point of the project

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
the rock was the best part of southland tales, which isnt saying much but i think he was really good in that

f#a#
Sep 6, 2004

I can't promise it will live up to the hype, but I tried my best.

Charlz Guybon posted:

None of the Rock's movies approach the quality of Schwarzenegger's best movies though. Predator, The Terminator, Total Recall, Terminator 2, True Lies. Name a movie by the Rock that comes close to any of those.

Again, agreed, but for the sake of argument, Moana is super legit. The Rock has always had a more family-friendly brand anyway so it's kind of apples to oranges.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
The Rock's best performances still came from his Pro Wrestling days such as when he sold amazing stunners by bouncing off the mat/shoulder like a spring or had interviews as if he's high on cocaine. More sincerity in his performance then than now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=408w8opuBH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iGLyHN3eoM

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

f#a# posted:

Again, agreed, but for the sake of argument, Moana is super legit. The Rock has always had a more family-friendly brand anyway so it's kind of apples to oranges.

Okay, I love Moana, so I'll give you that. But the Rock's brand is action star, so I think it's most fair to compare his action movies to others in the genre.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The original ending of Rampage had the friendly giant albino gorilla dying but the Rock threatened to walk unless they changed it to a happier ending where it survives, and later bragged about it in interviews
https://www.businessinsider.com/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-almost-quit-rampage-over-ending-2018-4

The gorilla living was absolutely the right call.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

The Cameo posted:

Dwayne became an internationally known pro wrestler at the height of popularity for that business, and springboarded into Hollywood, by losing to a bald white redneck and an overweight guy wearing raggedy office clothing with a sock on his hand pretty consistently

I’m sure he’s aware it doesn’t matter as long as you do or say cool poo poo, so yeah it’s very doubtful that it’s true

You're free to google this up, since it's fairly documented. Or you can continue to dictate that your reckons override poo poo that has been reported on.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

Vandar posted:

The gorilla living was absolutely the right call.

Yes. Even if George did kill people when it went on a.... rampage, so what? Civil War established that the Avengers (not the aliens) killed over 70 bystanders during the finale of the first Avengers movie and they didn't have the excuse of being mind controlled. And he gets cured by literally eating the white capitalist responsible.

Also my favorite part of the ending was the man and woman who were hiding in the building next to where George killed Lizzie who emerged after hearing all the people outside only to be greeted by a giant gorilla offering to help them down and the man just got over his shock and got onto George's hand while beckoning his the woman to join him in being rescued by a giant gorilla. And this was all in during a wide aerial shot as they zoomed out before the credits and not even the focus of the final scene.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Vagabundo posted:

You're free to google this up, since it's fairly documented. Or you can continue to dictate that your reckons override poo poo that has been reported on.

It's also very well-documented that those actors do take punches and lose fights. Those documents are, you know, the movies themselves.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

LesterGroans posted:

It's also very well-documented that those actors do take punches and lose fights. Those documents are, you know, the movies themselves.

This took literally seconds to find.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/02/fast-furious-stars-contract-demand-not-lose-fights-jason-statham-dwayne-johnson

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007



This article states Jason Statham and Dwayne Johnson demanded to not to be shown losing a fight to each other, which might well be true. Your earlier claim was that they weren't willing to lose fights at all, which is contradicted by the relevant movie (Hobbs & Shaw), where they both lose fights against Idris Elba's character.

I'm guessing you were just being imprecise, which is not some huge deal, but I think that's what LesterGroans was responding to.

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

Sir Kodiak posted:

This article states Jason Statham and Dwayne Johnson demanded to not to be shown losing a fight to each other, which might well be true. Your earlier claim was that they weren't willing to lose fights at all, which is contradicted by the relevant movie (Hobbs & Shaw), where they both lose fights against Idris Elba's character.

I'm guessing you were just being imprecise, which is not some huge deal, but I think that's what LesterGroans was responding to.

I also don't know if it's to do with the ego of these men, or if they both just have managers that go 'ok my client has established a clear pattern of being the strongest alpha male on screen and thus it is in his interest that he can never lose a fight. Also the number of punches and kicks he lands on male stars is the movie can never be of a lesser amount than they land on him.'

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Wasn’t there something similar going on in Escape Plan? I never saw the movie but I remember some discussion on We Hate Movies that the movie apparently goes really out of its way to never imply that Arnold and Sly ever “win” against the other even though they are on the same side.

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


kanonvandekempen posted:

I also don't know if it's to do with the ego of these men, or if they both just have managers that go 'ok my client has established a clear pattern of being the strongest alpha male on screen and thus it is in his interest that he can never lose a fight. Also the number of punches and kicks he lands on male stars is the movie can never be of a lesser amount than they land on him.'

Yeah, the way the contract negotiations get publicized as a man-to-man fight by the participants themselves — "'It’s not always easy being an alpha. And it’s two alphas,' Johnson told USA Today," from the article linked above — feels like it's another angle at promoting how tough these guys are and what a big deal it is for both of them to be appearing in a movie together. Taking it too seriously as being their initiative rather than, as you say, of course huge stars have complex contracts, seems a bit like buying into the televised "behind the scenes" skits in professional wrestling.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Sir Kodiak posted:

seems a bit like buying into the televised "behind the scenes" skits in professional wrestling.

Especially when we're talking about Literally A Wrestler vs RPG Man.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





RE: Bezos. If he knew a good show he’d have kept Patriot. Most underrated show on Amazon by a mile.

confused
Oct 3, 2003

It's just business.

George H.W. oval office posted:

RE: Bezos. If he knew a good show he’d have kept Patriot. Most underrated show on Amazon by a mile.

Strong agree. However, certainly not a show for a mass audience given the sociopathic nature of the "hero." Also, I approve of anything that gives Terry O'Quinn work.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Blomkamp brand horror? :getin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc4p_Mpabv0

Hugh Jackman in Matrixception? Alright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BggT--yxf0

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Oh man this actually looks pretty cool!

kanonvandekempen
Mar 14, 2009

AceOfFlames posted:

Wasn’t there something similar going on in Escape Plan? I never saw the movie but I remember some discussion on We Hate Movies that the movie apparently goes really out of its way to never imply that Arnold and Sly ever “win” against the other even though they are on the same side.

I'm more inclined to believe this one. There's a story that Arnold Schwarzenegger once read a script that was so terrible he decided he'd pretend to be interested in doing it, just to bait Stallone into trying to get the role before him.

And that is why we have Stop or my mom will shoot.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

The movies are back baby new Wong Kar-wai


https://twitter.com/BlossomsSeries/status/1401799560351997960?s=20

release date whenever

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Electronico6 posted:

The movies are back baby new Wong Kar-wai


https://twitter.com/BlossomsSeries/status/1401799560351997960?s=20

release date whenever

huh.


rad.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

Electronico6 posted:

The movies are back baby new Wong Kar-wai


https://twitter.com/BlossomsSeries/status/1401799560351997960?s=20

release date whenever

Oh wow, nice.

Electronico6
Feb 25, 2011

Electronico6 posted:

The movies are back baby new Wong Kar-wai


https://twitter.com/BlossomsSeries/status/1401799560351997960?s=20

release date whenever

Actually I take it back, the movies are not back, this is actually the trailer for the TV series Blossoms Shanghai that Wong is producing. The film version that he's directing of the same source material is just called Blossoms.


https://twitter.com/TheGoldenRock/status/1401812280422014980?s=20

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007


Get Ready for Price Time , Bitch




Both of these look really good.Especially the Hugh Jackman one , dystopian future sci fi is my jam.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.
No Sudden Move

https://youtu.be/7GRDLX3a-IE

Hell of a cast

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
I would like to watch that

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

LesterGroans posted:

No Sudden Move

https://youtu.be/7GRDLX3a-IE

Hell of a cast

weird amount of slight fisheye or something going on

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Who’s ready for some Jean Claude Van Damme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ67ueWGshQ

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

bows1 posted:

weird amount of slight fisheye or something going on

Anamorphic lenses. They're aspherical lenses and distort more towards the edges.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Who’s ready for some Jean Claude Van Damme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ67ueWGshQ

Lmao at the thumbnail.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Who’s ready for some Jean Claude Van Damme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ67ueWGshQ

yes.

JCVD's self deprecating second wind is amazing

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Who’s ready for some Jean Claude Van Damme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ67ueWGshQ

I thought for sure with a name like The Last Mercenary it was going to be some "Bruce Willis post 2010" bullshit straight to DVD schlock but that looks pretty legit fun.

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

BonoMan posted:

Anamorphic lenses. They're aspherical lenses and distort more towards the edges.

Is that all it is? I feel like usually they don't show the distortion as much

married but discreet
May 7, 2005


Taco Defender

Electronico6 posted:

Actually I take it back, the movies are not back, this is actually the trailer for the TV series Blossoms Shanghai that Wong is producing. The film version that he's directing of the same source material is just called Blossoms.


https://twitter.com/TheGoldenRock/status/1401812280422014980?s=20

Ah, I was wondering why this looked a bit like a WKW imitation. It's good but it's also sort of sub-par compared to the real deal.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMMLRnXPPJk

I did NOT recognize Jessica Chastain. Not even a little.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
And directed by Michael Showalter haha. Interesting...i feel like these types of movies usually have a firm ceiling on how good they possibly are but i'll prolly catch it on streaming.

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Mar 3, 2004

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