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The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
Steam VR games' trigger input is hosed on airlink so I would get the native oculus whenever possible

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JUNGLE BOY
Sep 23, 2019

the quest 2 rocks i love it

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I played payday with the new interface I got from Oculus and I think I much prefer the silicone one that goes over the existing interface. Sticking the leather part on the rounded plastic part proved difficult and there was some of it jutting into my periphery once I got it on that I had to take it off and adjust for. I thought the wrinkleyness of the leather when it is on made it pretty uncomfortable to wear too. I tried with and without the fabric cover over it to see if that helped and either way didn't dig it. It also requires more clearance for your head since it's poofier and sticks out more, and as someone previously mentioned the elite strap only ratchets out so far which made it a bit of a squeeze to fit on and now I think my elite strap is cracking lol gently caress.

Nalin
Sep 29, 2007

Hair Elf
Boneworks on Steam does not use Oculus SDK. It is SteamVR only, so you will absolutely get the SteamVR performance hit. Your solutions are to buy on the Oculus store or use Virtual Desktop instead of AirLink, which talks to SteamVR without going through Oculus SDK. But by doing that you do lose all the post-processing space warp stuff that the Oculus SDK uses. So you have to make choice. Each has its pros and cons.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Sairento support for Quest 2


Space Pirate Arena coming to Quest
https://twitter.com/phacktweets/status/1400474605832261634

Some real gameplay of Stones of Harlath, releasing today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHH8x2nG_o

Sniper Elite VR will release on July
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UccALmAhH3I

Wanderer will come to PC later this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_k9WJOX9Rk

Haptical Sales Slut
Mar 15, 2010

Age 18 to 49

Turin Turambar posted:

Sairento support for Quest 2


Space Pirate Arena coming to Quest
https://twitter.com/phacktweets/status/1400474605832261634

Some real gameplay of Stones of Harlath, releasing today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsHH8x2nG_o

Sniper Elite VR will release on July
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UccALmAhH3I

Wanderer will come to PC later this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_k9WJOX9Rk

Yesss sniper elite! I wonder how the bullet cam will work, I could see that not feeling great in VR since snapping to a bullet at 200mph might be disorienting.
IDK wtf that Wanderer game is but I wanna play it.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

90% of that sniper elite trailer is running around with an SMG shooting dudes up close which I guess has always been part of that game too but nobody wants that poo poo let me shoot hitler in the goddamn nards. Long range sniper scopes in VR have been pretty hit and miss in my experience, H3VR's range is alright but I'm curious to see if they do anything with the sniping in this game to make it feel satisfying.

Elendil004
Mar 22, 2003

The prognosis
is not good.


it looks like the scope is kinda big and exaggerated which is perfect. I also imagine they will treat it somewhat like a reflex scope, where when you pull the trigger it hits the middle.

uiruki
Aug 6, 2003
blah blah blah
Sniper Elite in the past has had multiple difficulty levels for the shooting so I suspect there'll be harder difficulties where you have do account for bullet drop and wind, and an easy one where if you point at balls it shatters balls.

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Nuts and Gum posted:

Yesss sniper elite! I wonder how the bullet cam will work, I could see that not feeling great in VR since snapping to a bullet at 200mph might be disorienting.
IDK wtf that Wanderer game is but I wanna play it.

From what I can tell it just does a first person person perspective of you as the bullet

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

Beastie posted:

From what I can tell it just does a first person person perspective of you as the bullet

With DLC for perspective of the balls I hope

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Coming to Ques on 06/17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmjYIzJfqRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lQdqnmqBs


First video of Warhammer Tempestfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTDheyFSDoU

Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Jun 4, 2021

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtpwoUH11Kc

Desdinova
Dec 16, 2004
I had to be on my toes, like a midget at a urinal!

ChocNitty posted:

Would I get worse performance playing Boneworks on Steam VR with my Oculus Quest 2 w/ airlink, vs buying it on the Oculus Rift store? Since my PC has to run 2 platforms instead of just the Oculus program.

I’d prefer to but it on Oculus but I have steam credit to use.

There's OpenVR, where you replace the .dll so that Steam VR isn't loaded on steam games. Only got it work on a couple of titles though, so buy at own risk.

Leathal
Oct 29, 2004

wanna be like gucci?
lil buddy eat your vegetables
No Man’s Sky just added DLSS support and I went from being super excited to being mostly confused once I tried it out.

It’s amazing in pancake mode. I can crank everything up to Ultra at 4K and the game runs smooth as butter on a 3070 (minus the weird stutter when leaving an atmosphere but that’s been around forever).

But in VR mode I can hardly tell a difference. Visually it’s okay. Looks like TAA with sharper edges and slightly less blur overall but I get sporadic weird blur artifacting if DLSS is set to either of the Performance options. That goes away if I set it to Balanced or Quality but then my performance is noticeably worse than with TAA.

I guess I bought too much into the performance hype for DLSS in VR because at best I’m seeing maybe a 1-2ms decrease in frame time. And yeah, that’s good and I’m not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth but it’s weird to me that DLSS in VR seems to be pretty underwhelming compared to the black magic it’s doing in pancake mode.

forest spirit
Apr 6, 2009

Frigate Hetman Sahaidachny
First to Fight Scuttle, First to Fall Sink


Agreed. It runs a bit better, for sure, no doubt, 100%. It's just not nearly as impactful as anything I've played pancake with DLSS.

Here's hoping it's tuned a bit down the line.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




There is a config file you need to edit that tells it how many cores to use that picked up performance quite a bit for me in VR

I’ll be damned if I can find it right now though

E: it’s this https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualrea...utm_name=iossmf

Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jun 4, 2021

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Is there a way to bypass minimum GPU specs for Oculus Link? I'm waiting for a new video card and just want to get things ready, I don't care if I chug at 2fps.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Martytoof posted:

Is there a way to bypass minimum GPU specs for Oculus Link? I'm waiting for a new video card and just want to get things ready, I don't care if I chug at 2fps.

I know Oculus Tray Tool (unofficial tool) can spoof a CPU; maybe see if it can spoof a video card too?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Whether it runs at all can depend on the GPU you're trying to use. For example if it's a GT 1030 or some kind of Intel iGPU, it doesn't support the features required to even get the render pipeline going.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Interesting. OK, I’ll give that a try and see. It’s an older Radeon 280X so definitely below minimum spec but not sure if it’s performance or actual missing functionality related.

That said I have had success in the past running things like Google Earth VR over VirtualDesktop on my Quest2 so I think technically it’s capable of rendering, I just wouldn’t say it ran well :haw:

I’d keep using VirtualDesktop but the computer and quest are both less than optimally away from my AP so I’m hoping to get link working via cable once I can source a 30XX

some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jun 5, 2021

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


So long as it can render the video it should still launch, it’ll just have a warning message saying you’re under spec.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Steam might launch but I think the Oculus app will refuse to initiate Oculus Link if you’re under spec :(

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Oculus Link relies on fixed function video encoders in modern GPUs for spacewarp and encoding frames for transfer over USB/Wifi. Hardware video encoders aren't very standardized and can change a lot from generation to generation, requiring specific implementations for each revision for best results. Oculus never got around to adding support for the 2xx series, at least for Link. Rift works fine.

Virtual Desktop is your only choice.
e: maybe ALVR too

SCheeseman fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jun 5, 2021

MeatRocket8
Aug 3, 2011

Nalin posted:

Boneworks on Steam does not use Oculus SDK. It is SteamVR only, so you will absolutely get the SteamVR performance hit. Your solutions are to buy on the Oculus store or use Virtual Desktop instead of AirLink, which talks to SteamVR without going through Oculus SDK. But by doing that you do lose all the post-processing space warp stuff that the Oculus SDK uses. So you have to make choice. Each has its pros and cons.

I found out the Oculus version had a 30% discount, so refunding it on Steam was a no brainer. And the performance on Oculus is much better as expected.

Now if I can only get MS Flight Sim 2020, or Borderlands 2 to run without also using Steam VR. I have them added to my Oculus library, but they won’t launch. Gotta do it through Steam.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Final trailer for Eternal Starlight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi10QXXR8KE

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Someone try this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1213220/IRON_GUARD_VR/?fbclid=IwAR3Z7sI1Z7K5TU-ia9M0bce0CLfXF44Y8DashIaMudY3VncWn68C8bF0WZA

Bloodplay it again
Aug 25, 2003

Oh, Dee, you card. :-*

There's a demo. Try it yourself!

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

you can refund any steam game you've played under 2 hours and owned less than a week, so in that way pretty much all steam games have a demo as long as they don't force you to register or activate on another service

Lozareth
Jun 11, 2006

I haven't played with my Quest 2 for a couple months thanks to Valheim. I decided to do so today and had some fun running games through the old version of Virtual Desktop I installed back in December or so. Just now I noticed it had an update so I installed it. Now VD won't load on my Quest 2 at all. I click to open the app, get a loading bar, then it goes back to Home and VD isn't running. I tried restarting and turning off/on the Quest and reinstalling VD with the same results. What can I do to fix this?

Edit: Finally found on the Discord that I needed to update the Quest 2's firmware. Working better than ever now.

Lozareth fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 6, 2021

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Bloodplay it again posted:

There's a demo. Try it yourself!

I wrote that and I went to bed!



Ok, I just did it now. As a TD game, is the type that I don't like, very slow progress unlocking things, the first level you only can use a single turret, and it uses fixed slotted placements for turrets, I prefer the ones that are a bit more freeform. As a VR game, well yeah, it doesn't add a lot to the concept. You can fire at enemies with a small ship (your right hand) but it's both weak and innacurate.
I can imagine a version of the game where there is no artificial locomotion or teleport, so you have to run around to see and act on the areas that most needed, repair stuff, etc, that would be a way to really make the concept of TD VR work. But then again, it would need a 25m2 area.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


I tried the demo and the UI broke like 3 different ways after I changed the controls to left handed. Couldn’t even finish the tutorial.

No bueno.

Baron von der Loon
Feb 12, 2009

Awesome!

Reminds me quite a bit of BattleGroupVR that I've been playing quite a bit as of late. I enjoyed Bridge Commander, but when VR became a thing, this is one of those games I really wanted to play. The controls work really well, and just seeing the ships duking it outside is rush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQLncTJBHXI

Leathal
Oct 29, 2004

wanna be like gucci?
lil buddy eat your vegetables

ChocNitty posted:

Now if I can only get MS Flight Sim 2020, or Borderlands 2 to run without also using Steam VR. I have them added to my Oculus library, but they won’t launch. Gotta do it through Steam.

Not sure about Borderlands, but MSFS I’m pretty sure you have to change a registry key to point to the Oculus OpenXR runtime. Link below.

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018555179-How-to-install-OpenXR-

Also when you do this, save your future self potential headaches by exporting two copies of the registry key: one with the default SteamVR runtime and one with the Oculus version. The Oculus OpenXR runtime was causing some problems running certain SteamVR-only stuff and it’s a whole lot easier double clicking a reg file to switch between the two.

Though now that I’m thinking about it, I haven’t had to change back from Oculus as default for quite some time so maybe the problem was fixed in an update.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Happy Noodle Boy posted:

I tried the demo and the UI broke like 3 different ways after I changed the controls to left handed. Couldn’t even finish the tutorial.

No bueno.

In my case the loading screen and the steamvr screen blinked like crazy, mixing the two, in the loads. It's almost a tradition to have glitchy loading screens in SteamVR games...

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Baron von der Loon posted:

Reminds me quite a bit of BattleGroupVR that I've been playing quite a bit as of late. I enjoyed Bridge Commander, but when VR became a thing, this is one of those games I really wanted to play. The controls work really well, and just seeing the ships duking it outside is rush.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQLncTJBHXI

Always 'promising' when the official trailer shows framerate slowdowns or stutters in 5 different places!

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Speaking of busted demos, I tried the Pavlov demo on Steam. You have to add it to your library through an external link because it doesn't seem to be accessible through Steam's store browser, possibly because it is listed as DLC when you search for it. On startup it had a message saying "alpha test now over" or something similar, had one narrow, u-shaped corridor with flat grey walls and a few guns in and literally no other rooms or content, and there was no stick turning whatsoever.

Is Pavlov good? Because that did not give me any confidence to try the finished game.

Dogthing
May 30, 2003

or is it.... just a dog??
Grimey Drawer

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Speaking of busted demos, I tried the Pavlov demo on Steam. You have to add it to your library through an external link because it doesn't seem to be accessible through Steam's store browser, possibly because it is listed as DLC when you search for it. On startup it had a message saying "alpha test now over" or something similar, had one narrow, u-shaped corridor with flat grey walls and a few guns in and literally no other rooms or content, and there was no stick turning whatsoever.

Is Pavlov good? Because that did not give me any confidence to try the finished game.

Pavlov is kinda jank but I have a ton of fun playing it. Usually I just join the big SND server and just get my manual counterstrike fix in but they have TTT servers that are kinda fun to gently caress around in too. Lots of maps and they're mostly just ripped from CS

Grei Skuring
Sep 12, 2011

:norway::thumbsup:
It's more or less CS in VR, with weapon controls I have no issues with (perhaps some grenade troubles at most). I love playing it with a few friends, and the most fun I've had in VR was with 3v3 matches.
You can dual wield any weapon, which opens up the sort of wonky tactics I would want in that kind of game.

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Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
sadly the player population isn't great for pavlov and only seems to be getting worse. Still, it's my favorite VR game

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