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Nitrousoxide posted:I would not want to locally self-host a password manager since my house flooding or burning down would lose me access to everything, even if it was properly backed up off-site. If your house burning or flooding is even on your radar then ugh you should probably move
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Nitrousoxide posted:I would not want to locally self-host a password manager since my house flooding or burning down would lose me access to everything, even if it was properly backed up off-site. just because corporations are too cheap for off-site backups doesn't mean you have to be as well
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mycophobia posted:why shouldnt i just keep using keep rear end xc just keep using keepassxc
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Jun 4, 2021 17:05
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i use keep rear end xc in conjunction with syncthing it keep my rear end syncthing is also extremely good
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Jun 4, 2021 17:26
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my keepassxc database lives in a git repo that i sync to multiple places and periodically reset the history of, in case history would make it easier to crack, one of those places is a flash drive on my keychain which i would hopefully grab in addition to phone and wallet to run outside if my home was burning down no geographically separate backups at the moment, but if allegheny county is taken out by a meteor i doubt ill be alive to care about all copies of my password database being obliterated
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fart simpson posted:if my primary email account was ever compromised for any reason, it wouldnt matter what password manager i was using. everything else would fall like dominoes Lysidas posted:my keepassxc database lives in a git repo that i sync to multiple places and periodically reset the history of, in case history would make it easier to crack, one of those places is a flash drive on my keychain which i would hopefully grab in addition to phone and wallet to run outside if my home was burning down
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Jun 4, 2021 17:42
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ever heard of encryption precious
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Gentle Autist posted:ever heard of encryption precious
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So who uses BSD and what is it good for compared to Linux?sb hermit posted:Despite this being the Linux Desktop thread, I have some funny Illumos news. Speaking of which, what was Solaris used for outside of corporate stuff, and why would anyone use Illumos or any other post-Solaris projects today?
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Jun 4, 2021 20:00
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BSD is good for annoying Linux fanatics more realistically FreeBSD is a solid system that makes a good base for something more specialized (see its usage as the underlying OS for JunOS, pfSense, the PS3 and PS4 OSes), NetBSD is for getting a unix running on just about literally anything (it has eight tier 1 platform ports and 49 tier 2 platform ports), and OpenBSD is for having a unix that's simple and functionally secure as long as you're okay with using a desktop or a thinkpad I have an OpenBSD firewall but pf has traditionally been kinda poo poo at multicore forwarding because of a bunch of giant ugly kernel locks so if you want to push 10GbE+ then ymmv.
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i like freebsd as a desktop. it's good if you're into more unix-y things. also super stable and most anything runs on it. fairly easy to make a server or nice desktop with. lots of companies use bsd for the network stack, like netflix uses a bunch of bsd, and sony as well
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Jun 4, 2021 20:17
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BSD is for mourning what could have been were it not for problematic software licensing.
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Maximo Roboto posted:So who uses BSD and what is it good for compared to Linux? It's good for publically hosted services although inevitably you can shoot yourself in the foot just as easily as anything else if you don't know what you're doing. I think a properly built podman container with selinux running (especially rootless) is just as secure as anything on bsd but I'm not that familiar with BSD still learning 
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my experience with securing things on linux vs securing things on BSD is that securing things on linux requires throwing in all sorts of bizarre additional control mechanisms each with their own unusual configuration and management interfaces all of which have been written or funded by  , whereas the BSDs tend to be somewhere between "reasonably secure" and "unpleasantly secure" out of the box and all the loopholes show up as footguns, often due to the difference in syntax between variants of pf
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Gentle Autist posted:ever heard of encryption precious mystes posted:What are you responding to? Nasty hobbittses? https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HonestSmartBuffalo-mobile.mp4
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Jun 4, 2021 20:38
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Isn't GhostBSD the Mint Linux usability-driven distro?
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Jun 4, 2021 20:43
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dragonflybsd i think
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most other BSDs are just FreeBSD forks, ghost is FreeBSD + MATE and dragonfly is some ancient freebsd fork because the dragonfly dev lead was angry about how phk wanted to do SMP support like 20 years ago
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mystes posted:What are you responding to? if a cloud provider gets owned and a database gets dumped, if I hold the encryption keys and they are sufficiently complex, then the attacker has nothing. that’s how 1password works, for example. they provide the software and syncing services, but I hold a key and password that encrypts the vault, so it’s impractical/impossible for anyone to brute force my passes i get the instinctual reluctance to entrust all your passwords to someone else, but with any system other than your own brain you have some reliance on external parties
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nah they'll just get owned in the supply chain and inject something into the product's browser extension that transmits all your secrets to North Korea once you've opened your vault.
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open sores it is then
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I use safari keychain op and keep rear end do on cloud provider
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Maximo Roboto posted:So who uses BSD and what is it good for compared to Linux? The difference is basically irrelevant if you're not a programmer touching system APIs. Biggest difference the avg. power user will notice is that they don't use GNU utilities. quote:Speaking of which, what was Solaris used for outside of corporate stuff, and why would anyone use Illumos or any other post-Solaris projects today? Literally nothing.
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Maximo Roboto posted:So who uses BSD and what is it good for compared to Linux? 10+ years ago freebsd's network stack was far and beyond better than linux, which is why companies like netflix built their infrastructure around it. i don't think that's the case anymore, although i haven't seen any benchmarks in a long time now freebsd mainly exists as free labor for companies like sony and for weirdbeards who like janitoring init scripts
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Maximo Roboto posted:Speaking of which, what was Solaris used for outside of corporate stuff, and why would anyone use Illumos or any other post-Solaris projects today? Solaris was heavily used as the unix equivalent for the machines at my university when I was a student many decades ago. Mainly used by graduate students, who were never sitting at the drat things that were taking up precious lab space. I guess in hindsight they were using them remotely. I think sparcs were powerful but dang expensive for the time. And solaris was the only OS that they deigned worthy of running on these boxen. Of course, beowulf clusters were starting to prove their worth so the writing on the wall was just getting started. I don't see Illumos being useful today except for organizations that still need to run proprietary software and don't trust Oracle to act rationally when renewing maintenance contracts.
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pre-oracle sun was was one of those companies you'd pay to provide everything under the banner of "computer" and solaris was just what they'd give you
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wasn't solaris actually like, really good I have this book by brendan gregg and he talks at length about all the monitoring tools and poo poo on it also lol brendan gregg posted:The second edition adds content on BPF, BCC, bpftrace, perf, and Ftrace, mostly removes Solaris 
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Solaris was actually really good, yes. If you wanted the best storage on the market, you went with Sun. We had a bunch of Sun storage boxen at our university. Dtrace and ZFS combine into something really powerful. Nowadays if you want the best storage you go proprietary or FreeBSD or OpenZFS on Linux. We went with the latter. It's insane how much better ZFS is than any available file system.
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My first job out of college in defense contracting required Solaris builds for SPARC because they were used really heavily for processing remote sensor data. Probably not the case anymore but it was top of the line for that work at the time.
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Can you change anything about a ZFS pool without creating another and copying everything between them yet?
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infernal machines posted:i can't believe you say that in this thread where people regularly extol the virtues of btrfs
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xtal posted:Can you change anything about a ZFS pool without creating another and copying everything between them yet? Nothing substantial (you can always add new raid/mirror groups, you can never remove any, except single devices you accidentally added, you can split or expand mirrors). What you can do is create an encrypted file system many tens of TB huge and replicate it to your backup host without them ever seeing any clear text data beyond the name of the fs. You can then send differential backups, again without ever decrypting. ZFS will instantly know what to send even if only a few kb in a tree of many millions of files and hundreds of thousands of directories has changed. It will max out the pipe even if some researcher decided to create another 200 000 directories each containing one 4kb and one 512b file. It's deep loving magic is what it is.
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btrfs can do the same, use that instead
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Oh right, and ZFS can do raid without losing data and stays operative while redundancy is degraded, unlike btrfs.
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Gentle Autist posted:wasn't solaris actually like, really good eventually it was initially awful in comparison to SunOS 4.1.3, huge performance/memory hit prior to about Solaris 2.5, initially its main attractions were multiprocessor support (SunOS 4 only had what Solbourne developed for SMP) and the promise of System V Release 4 standardization/compatibility
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Antigravitas posted:Oh right, and ZFS can do raid without losing data and stays operative while redundancy is degraded, unlike btrfs. btrfs can do that too
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ZFS vs BTRFS is clearly such an important issue that I think it should be given its own dedicated thread.
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