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SlapActionJackson posted:Jesus Christ do I hate the modern marketing obsession with emotion over substance i sat a marketing course recently, and observed that several of the case study examples had absolutely nothing to do with selling a product, even though they purported to be. the specific example was of some coffee house that wanted to expand and needed a new campaign for it and you talk them into making a youtube channel for their coffeehouse, and the question asks "how would you prove your youtube channel for the coffeehouse is good?" and of course the answer was "get a lot of views and thus demonstrate wider brand awareness and push key youth demographics towards engagement by using a language they talk" etc etc and i realized in a moment of absolute clarity that they were not teaching me how better sell coffee, but instead to better sell marketing to people who sell coffee, who have extremely well-founded views like "youtube views and coffee sales have absolutely no correlation whatsoever" and need talking out of these silly notions so they can pay you. i did really, really well in that course lmao
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Jun 2, 2021 20:26
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As advertising gets more and more ubiquitous, and people get more and more resistant, marketing needs to come up with new ways to sell products to fit the demands of infinitely growing capitalism. Either that, or marketing is a grift. It's a grift.
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Jun 2, 2021 23:24
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Marketing never changes
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Jun 3, 2021 01:39
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RCarr posted:I went to high school from 2001-2005 and I literally didn’t know a single person who did coke or heroin. And I smoked weed every day and drank every weekend. Pills weren’t even popular then either. Then the 5-7 years after high school I lost a ton of friends to heroin. It just exploded out of nowhere. Late response but I was in high school 2008-2012 and I got to see firsthand how it sort of exploded. I feel like that's going to be a story to tell the clueless future generations.
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Jun 3, 2021 08:05
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Marketing never changes I mean, celebrating the defeat of the Confederacy seems like as good a reason as any to treat yourself.
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Jun 3, 2021 08:12
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RCarr posted:I went to high school from 2001-2005 and I literally didn’t know a single person who did coke or heroin. And I smoked weed every day and drank every weekend. Pills weren’t even popular then either. Then the 5-7 years after high school I lost a ton of friends to heroin. It just exploded out of nowhere. pretty much when silkroad, agora etc. came onto the scene. easily available dope and pills. suddenly you didn't need a connect, or the connects you had suddenly had piles of absolute fire
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Jun 3, 2021 15:05
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Platystemon posted:I mean, celebrating the defeat of the Confederacy seems like as good a reason as any to treat yourself. It's less tacky than Memorial Day sales, that's for sure. Yes, let's honor our fallen troops with some new furniture. Glad my uncle got drafted and died in Vietnam so you could get a great deal on a new mattress, I'm sure that's how he'd like to be memorialized.
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Jun 3, 2021 15:08
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JacquelineDempsey posted:It's less tacky than Memorial Day sales, that's for sure. Yes, let's honor our fallen troops with some new furniture. "Big Lenny's World Of Mattresses would like to take a moment to honor our fallen heroes . . . Buy our new POSTURERIFFIC MEMORYFOME ALPHA and you too can Rest in Peace!"
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Jun 3, 2021 17:08
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OUR PRICES ARE THE BOMB!!!! Just like the one that killed pop-pop in dubya dubya too!
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Jun 3, 2021 23:00
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Can’t find it now but there’s a newspaper ad from WWI that’s along the lines of A Great Slaughter... In Prices! during Verdun or the Somme or some such.
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Jun 4, 2021 00:05
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 From user Trin Tragula's fantastic WWI Day-by-Day blog, Daily Telegraph, 23 Oct 1914.
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Jun 4, 2021 12:21
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I’m the Crow Master Vibrator.
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Jun 4, 2021 13:36
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KHAKI CLOTH PUTTEES large stocks has some extreme "baby socks, never worn" energy
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Jun 4, 2021 13:48
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I’ve been watching the Friends sitcom online & I realized that scene sliders where they use shots of NY, specifically the ones that show the twin towers, the importance of those buildings is somewhat lost now on younger audiences. The same thing for when I watch Spider-Man TAS.
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Jun 5, 2021 07:30
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Vietnamwees posted:I’ve been watching the Friends sitcom online & I realized that scene sliders where they use shots of NY, specifically the ones that show the twin towers, the importance of those buildings is somewhat lost now on younger audiences. The same thing for when I watch Spider-Man TAS. I think it's regional. I live in New Jersey and everyone, even those who are adults now but were born post 9/11, recognize and understand the significance of the towers. I can imagine it's a lot less impactful in other regions. It's always a little weird to see them in older shows though. Like the opening of The Critic, possibly the most 90s zeitgeist show of them all. My wife and I love it. I can't imagine anyone younger than 30 understands more than 50% of the references.
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Jun 6, 2021 06:31
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Jaguars! posted:
How the gently caress do I interpret those prices? What is 29/9, or 6/4.5?
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Jun 6, 2021 08:18
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British pre-decimal currency
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Jun 6, 2021 08:34
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CodfishCartographer posted:How the gently caress do I interpret those prices? What is 29/9, or 6/4.5? This is pre-decimalized British currency, so that's 29 shillings 9 pence, or six shillings 4 and a half pence. This way lies madness, but a quick (and funny) explanation was given in a footnote in the novel Good Omens by Gaiman and Pratchett: quote:NOTE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND AMERICANS: One shilling = Five Pee. It helps to understand the antique finances of the Witchfinder Army if you know the original British monetary system:
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Jun 6, 2021 08:38
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There’s only two things to remember: twenty shillings to the pound and twelve pence to the shilling. Yeah they’re arbitrary values, but it’s not that bad till you get into the names for the coins. Your own coins and bills get called weird things like like “nickel” and “sawbuck” and “Benjamin”. You’re just used to those. The guinea is just bad, though. There’s no excusing that. It’s worth twenty‐one shillings, five percent more than the pound. Wow what a useful unit! Really fills a niche! We haven’t minted any since the eighteenth century, but let’s occasionally specify amounts in it anyway! Platystemon fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Jun 6, 2021 |
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Jun 6, 2021 09:02
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The problem isn't the special names, but that some versions of the coins only say "half crown" or "one florin" or no denomination at all. If you don't know already know what those are worth it could be confusing. By the time the switch happened I think all the coins had clear values on them but that wasn't the case historically. The US does that with the dime, it's the only coin that doesn't have its value in dollars or cents just "one dime".
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Jun 6, 2021 09:23
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Lol I was playing an MMO, and had this encounter: "Hey LeadOut, who's the leader of GOON?" "Uh, we're pretty casual, and don't really have a leader." "Oh. So what's the deal with your clan?" "It's associated with the Something Awful Forums." "The what?" "The Something Awful Forums. It was a big part of the internet in the 2000s." "I'm 15. I don't know about these 'forums' things."
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Jun 6, 2021 09:33
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MMO players should not be younger than my GMail account.
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Jun 6, 2021 09:37
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol I was playing an MMO, and had this encounter: good
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Jun 6, 2021 12:21
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We watched Twister last night with our 8 year old. Man, that movie can be just a period piece of the 90s. So much of it is irrelevant today. Even the premise of trying to study tornadoes so a warning system can be made isn't relevant anymore because we do have a pretty robust system now. It had been a while since I had seen it and forgot the antagonist dies in a completely over the top 90s way. He wasn't even really a bad guy!
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Jun 6, 2021 12:32
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Lead out in cuffs posted:Lol I was playing an MMO, and had this encounter:
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Jun 6, 2021 12:52
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Platystemon posted:Yeah they’re arbitrary values, but it’s not that bad till you get into the names for the coins. Your own coins and bills get called weird things like like “nickel” and “sawbuck” and “Benjamin”. You’re just used to those. "Benjamin" while somewhat known culturally as $100, is not an everyday denomination. Nice try, person from the land of "slappy ham" and "cold on the cob".
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Jun 6, 2021 13:15
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I knew ‘sawbuck’ from reading old detective fiction(think Raymond Chandler), but otherwise, I’ve never heard it either, and I’m 53.
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Jun 6, 2021 13:20
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:I think it's regional. I live in New Jersey and everyone, even those who are adults now but were born post 9/11, recognize and understand the significance of the towers. I can imagine it's a lot less impactful in other regions. Under 30, can confirm having tried to watch The Critic. While living in the Bronx even so I'm not totally NYC clueless. e: also my younger cousins even in France recognize the towers, but it's more "lol murrica" than  hayave you forgotennnnnnnnnnn how it felt that dayyyyy
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Jun 6, 2021 14:02
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Cheesus posted:I am a week shy of 48, have lived in the US my entire life, spent ages 9-18 as a cashier in my parents store, and just now had to look up "sawbuck". Yeah it’s like saying “Two Bits” to refer to a quarter, nobody has seriously done that for at least 50 years.
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Jun 6, 2021 14:04
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah it’s like saying “Two Bits” to refer to a quarter, nobody has seriously done that for at least 50 years. It's because vending machines stopped having those twelve-and-a-half-cent candy bars.
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Jun 6, 2021 16:31
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I was watching the movie "The Sting" last night and they mentioned something about a "ticker" or stock ticker or whatever the gently caress. I'd imagine actual stock tickers don't really get much use any more, and if someone mentions a "ticker tape" parade, most people have no idea what ticker tape is.
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Jun 6, 2021 17:29
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Ticker tape was on its way out even when Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins got their parade.
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Jun 6, 2021 17:35
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The Man and the Ticker reads a bit differently more than a century later.
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Jun 6, 2021 17:38
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Bucnasti posted:Yeah it’s like saying “Two Bits” to refer to a quarter, nobody has seriously done that for at least 50 years. 
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Platystemon posted:Ticker tape was on its way out even when Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins got their parade. Yeah I remember they did a "Ticker Tape" parade in the 80's for some thing or another and instead they used the strips of perforated paper from the edges of the lengths of paper used by continuous feed printers.  Which in and of itself is something lost on modern audiences.
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Jun 6, 2021 18:33
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Platystemon posted:The guinea is just bad, though. There’s no excusing that. It’s worth twenty‐one shillings, five percent more than the pound. Wow what a useful unit! Really fills a niche! We haven’t minted any since the eighteenth century, but let’s occasionally specify amounts in it anyway! The guinea was originally a gold coin, equal to a pound (lb - the weight) of sterling silver. That lb was made of 20 shilling coins. Exactly how many shillings were equal to a guinea originally varied over the years depending on the relative value of silver and gold until it was fixed at 21 shillings in the 1700s. In 1816 the guinea coin was replaced by the sovereign (nominal value £1 or 20 shillings) but the notional idea of an amount of money being 'a guinea' (21 shillings) remained. Being Britain, there was of course a social class aspect to this. Stuff that the upper classes bought and sold between each other - land, country property, art, high-end furniture, racehorses, army commissions and banking and other professional fees were quoted in guineas. The middle classes earned their salaries, paid their bills and mortgaged their houses in pounds. The working classes received their wages, and paid their rent and bought their food, weekly in shillings. Medical doctors quoted their fees in guineas but surgeons (not being degree-holders) were paid in pounds.
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Jun 6, 2021 18:57
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Victorian surgeons would mostly have been barbers moonlighting as medical professionals no?
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Jun 6, 2021 19:25
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Victorian surgeons would mostly have been barbers moonlighting as medical professionals no? That's traditionally where the distinction between medical doctors (physicians with a university degree and accredited by a Royal College which set standards and administered examinations) and surgeons (tradesmen without degrees, no official governing body or examinations and, yes, traditionally spending most of their days earning money as barbers) came from. That's why surgeons were paid in pounds and physicians paid in guineas. But by the Victorian era that had already been put in the past. The Company of Surgeons had been founded in the 1740s (officially breaking surgeons away from the medieval barbers' guild) and that became the Royal College of Surgeons in 1800. One condition of the RCS's new charter was that its members all had to be degree-holding physicians, thus formalising a long-developing trend where surgeons were specialised doctors rather than skilled 'amateurs'. So by the Victorian era surgeons were just as much doctors as physicians, and by 1900 (as tacit recognition of this), the top city surgeons were also quoting their charges in guineas. However the lingering tradition (actually rather in keeping with the thread) is that, right to the present day, British surgeons who have passed their RCS Membership Diploma cease to use their 'Doctor' title (which they earned when they graduated from medical school) professionally. Instead they revert to just being 'Mister'. Of course that is a throwback to the days when surgeons didn't have a degree and physicians were very careful to make the distinction that they were doctors and surgeons were misters. Like many put-downs, surgeons adopted it as a point of pride and so RCS members call themselves 'mister' as a historical snub to the stuck-ups at the RCP. So if you're in a British hospital for surgery and your doctor introduces themselves as 'Mister' or 'Miz' then you know that, far from being unqualified, they're actually as qualified as they can be.
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IIRC the Georgian era was the last gasp of the barber-surgeon, though I'm sure there were plenty of barbers in the Victorian era who would gladly charge you to lance a boil or whatever. edit: beaten! Nonetheless, Sweeney Todd doing a tooth-pulling is probably anachronistic.
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