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Sickening posted:I still scratch my head at people using the browser on a phone at all. What do you do in the browser that you can't have a better experience with the corresponding app? Even the people in my life without computers rarely use a browser for anything. Ah yes let me install an app that I will use once ever or once in a year, that tracks and probably runs in background! Brilliant!
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mystes posted:We've finally found the person who sees the "install the app" popup and says "why yes I will, thank you."
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Jun 6, 2021 09:33
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mystes posted:We've finally found the person who sees the "install the app" popup and says "why yes I will, thank you."
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Celexi posted:Ah yes let me install an app that I will use once ever or once in a year, that tracks and probably runs in background!
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mystes posted:We've finally found the person who sees the "install the app" popup and says "why yes I will, thank you." 
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a while back, i uninstalled all of my password manager browser extensions and honestly i don't miss it. sometimes now i need to pull up the password on one device and type it into another device that no longer has the manager installed on it, but it really isn't that annoying, and it makes me feel a lot better
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Jun 6, 2021 18:58
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Shaggar posted:edge syncs its passwords to microsoft authenticator which you can use as an ios password manager i do this, it became quite needs-suiting once microsoft fixed the edge bug that kept it from suggesting new strong passwords
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Lutha Mahtin posted:a while back, i uninstalled all of my password manager browser extensions and honestly i don't miss it. sometimes now i need to pull up the password on one device and type it into another device that no longer has the manager installed on it, but it really isn't that annoying, and it makes me feel a lot better i think I would go in insane typing out my passwords on mobile every time now that most of them are 20+ insane gibberish.
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Keepass on a dropbox seems simple enough, I use dropbox sync all my stupid cat pictures with all my devices, just shove a kdbx file in there and open with any one dozens of keepAss clients available for every platform, then copy/paste? Strongbox even supports storing OTP seeds and acting as an OTP app. Tavis seems all about being "technically right" about everything without caring about other people's use cases. He has these absolutist opinions on AV and MFA because breaking that stuff is his day job. His perspective is so skewed that his opinion is essentially irrelevant to 99% of actual people.
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that is exactly what I do, yeah tavis is a smart security guy who gets jerked off every time he finds a sandbox escape in a lovely antivirus and that has empowered him to go on at length about how he's the smartest guy in the room and how ACTUALLY this is the best way to do <thing related to his domain>. arguably browser password managers are hypothetically insecure because you have no insight into what they're actually doing in the background to store and secure your credentials, and that's something he completely overlooks while pretending open source (yes I know this doesn't matter to grandma, but it should matter to anyone who claims to be analyzing from the perspective of a security nerd) password managers using proper encryption don't exist
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ewiley posted:Tavis seems all about being "technically right" about everything without caring about other people's use cases. He has these absolutist opinions on AV and MFA because breaking that stuff is his day job. His perspective is so skewed that his opinion is essentially irrelevant to 99% of actual people.
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Jun 6, 2021 20:43
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What if I don't trust my bank with my bank password
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Buff Hardback posted:yeah if i used chrome passwords and wanted to sign into a desktop app i'd have to copy/paste from passwords.google.com to said desktop app, then clear from clipboard history Chrome will copy a password to the clipboard from the password management UI in the settings which is probably safer than using the site
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mystes posted:Password manager browser extensions do actually have a pretty loving horrible security track record though. No doubt, but I think the odds of someone successfully exploiting some password extension vs. the enormous benefits of using *any* password manager so you're not re-using creds all over the place make the advice "dont use a password manager" exceedingly stupid and pedantic. Tavis refuses to believe in incremental change or 'better is better than nothing'.
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ewiley posted:Keepass on a dropbox seems simple enough, I use dropbox sync all my stupid cat pictures with all my devices, just shove a kdbx file in there and open with any one dozens of keepAss clients available for every platform, then copy/paste? Strongbox even supports storing OTP seeds and acting as an OTP app. i use keepass with gdrive backup cus theres a plugin for it that allows for one click syncing. not sure why i would pay money for a subscription service with more surface area for attack.
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well if you can't figure it out i guess it isn't your use case. but if you can't figure it out i'm lowkey gonna throw shade on your creative capacity
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ewiley posted:No doubt, but I think the odds of someone successfully exploiting some password extension vs. the enormous benefits of using *any* password manager so you're not re-using creds all over the place make the advice "dont use a password manager" exceedingly stupid and pedantic.
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Methanar posted:It's also by design completely controlled by Apple in the case of ios and may be removed for any or no reason arbitrarily without warning and without recourse as a feature This is a good feature btw. gently caress apps.
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:i think I would go in insane typing out my passwords on mobile every time now that most of them are 20+ insane gibberish. Use alpha-numeric only with a single symbol if required. It's just as strong* and much easier to type in for the occasional times you need to do that, i.e. an emergency or whatever. *adding an extra character provides more security then adding symbols.
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Methanar posted:It's also by design completely controlled by Apple in the case of ios and may be removed for any or no reason arbitrarily without warning and without recourse as a feature Or, on Android, is just themed as an iOS app because they were too lazy to want to have a different scheme to match the platform. Methanar posted:What if I don't trust my bank with my bank password You probably shouldn't, actually!
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Methanar posted:What if I don't trust my bank with my bank password i don't even trust them with my money! that's why all my funds are in cryptocur- *a large hook pulls me away before i can complete the incantation to summon bad posters*
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wait are you telling my giant sack of bottlecaps isn’t a valid investment vehicle?
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lol https://twitter.com/jrob___________/status/1401703552817434624
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momar is also the name of mom martian from Santa Claus Conquers The Martians (Kimar is king martian, Girmar is the girl martian child, etc)
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momar kadaffy
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I like the implication that he doesn’t know his wife’s birthday
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I'm not touching the poop but I am eagerly awaiting hearing about someone that did!
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resident fbi officer, please note that im here only to be pedantic about browser-based password manager functionality
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From the relationships thread, of all places:
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Ur Getting Fatter posted:i think I would go in insane typing out my passwords on mobile every time now that most of them are 20+ insane gibberish. i do and i do go insane i would love to use the ios password store except i can't figure out how to make it save the password i type in. thanks for reminding me you exist every time i touch a password field though  handoff does let you sync the clipboard between devices so i could, in theory, copy from my password manager on desktop and paste it into my phone. except i've got that disabled because for the other 99.9% of the time the idea of allowing my phone to access my desktop clipboard is horrifying.
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Quackles posted:From the relationships thread, of all places: i think this turned out to be untrue
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crepeface posted:i think this turned out to be untrue according to twitter, you’re supposed to say “you just got bukkaked” here
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fisting by many posted:i do and i do go insane i generate these passwords which are strong and typable https://passwordgen.camerontod.com/ Also 1password is integrated into the ios password workflow somehow so it automatically offers to fill password fields and uses faceid to unlock, pretty convenient
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i'm "NEW 2020" written in paint pen by his aide to remind him to use the new loving laptop instead of the old loving laptop god dammit I spent ALL WEEKEND moving your poo poo over to it
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Volmarias posted:I'm not touching the poop but I am eagerly awaiting hearing about someone that did! https://twitter.com/MoMar5456
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he deleted it, you can go read the thing I posted with the screenshot in case you missed it
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This is like the same crap my boomer parents do. They try to make up passwords using short combinations of the same low-entropy parts but then they can't remember them anyway so they have to write them down. I keep trying to tell them that if you can't remember the passwords anyway and have to write them down then you don't have to make it the name of your loving dog, you can use a 10 digit sequence of random numbers and letters and it will make absolutely no difference to how you go about logging into anything, but they're like, no we can't possibly figure out how to generate a sequence of random numbers and letters, it's too hard, and they keep using the same passwords for everything. It's loving stupid.
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i had small but important victory, speaking of, by successfully onboarding my mom into 1password
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mystes posted:This is like the same crap my boomer parents do. They try to make up passwords using short combinations of the same low-entropy parts but then they can't remember them anyway so they have to write them down. I keep trying to tell them that if you can't remember the passwords anyway and have to write them down then you don't have to make it the name of your loving dog, you can use a 10 digit sequence of random numbers and letters and it will make absolutely no difference to how you go about logging into anything, but they're like, no we can't possibly figure out how to generate a sequence of random numbers and letters, it's too hard, and they keep using the same passwords for everything. It's loving stupid. Its like muscle memory, but for your brain(also your muscles). Sometimes you just need a little nudges to kick that into gear, and the older you get the more common those times are.
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