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e: ^^ would anyone even buy it after what a disaster Outriders 1 became?Mailer posted:Devs are done with it so it kind of is what it is. Yeah it's looking pretty grim. "The loot sucks and here's a 1000 word spiel why" is a pretty common topic of discussion on their subreddit but the community manager's posts addressing it are basically playing dumb about the issue. Seems like they're just going to kick the can down the line until there's nobody left playing.
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May 31, 2021 00:06
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UnknownMercenary posted:e: ^^ would anyone even buy it after what a disaster Outriders 1 became? It'll be on game pass day one in 2026 so nobody will have to
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May 31, 2021 00:28
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UnknownMercenary posted:e: ^^ would anyone even buy it after what a disaster Outriders 1 became? Given how we're not going to see NEW new games until 2023, and then we're going to see a shitload, I doubt something like Outriders 2 would even be worth releasing. Add the bad will on top of that and welp. Maybe they'll half-rear end out an expansion at some point but ain't no one buying it. ICR will definitely make a thread. If they'd made it a legit non-service game and tightened the focus it might have been remembered as more of a flawed gem. You can sell a sequel on that. Being remembered for being worse than Cyberpunk is not a sequel-selling legacy.
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May 31, 2021 02:03
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:I picked this up on sale and it consistently crashes after 20~ minutes of play. Is this a know issue with an easy fix? I tried running DX11 but it doesn't seem to help any. Game seems fun but it's annoying to have to re-do content all the time because of crashes. Get a refund if you can
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May 31, 2021 05:15
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Floppychop posted:Get a refund if you can Think I'm outside the window (bought 11 days ago and 3.9 hours of play). My friend bought it so I was pretty determined to play it with him, pretty disheartening to hear it's a bit hopeless. Isaacs Alter Ego fucked around with this message at 07:42 on May 31, 2021 |
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May 31, 2021 07:36
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Isaacs Alter Ego posted:Think I'm outside the window (bought 11 days ago and 3.9 hours of play). My friend bought it so I was pretty determined to play it with him, pretty disheartening to hear it's a bit hopeless. Stop buying broken games? "it seems fun but doesnt [technically] work" is not a ringing endorsment. Also advise your friends to not waste their time and energy on broken products. PCF had some credibility in FPS area but their handling of this game has shown they are just as incompetenet as other developers. One final note - any dev house that has the luxury of ignoring user feedback does so. "Your feedback is important to us" is bullshit. All they care about is selling more copies. There are a few exceptions where artistic integrity > money, but these are far too few to make a dent. Stop buying and recommending broken products.
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May 31, 2021 08:50
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madfury posted:Stop buying broken games? "it seems fun but doesnt [technically] work" is not a ringing endorsment. Also advise your friends to not waste their time and energy on broken products. PCF had some credibility in FPS area but their handling of this game has shown they are just as incompetenet as other developers. One final note - any dev house that has the luxury of ignoring user feedback does so. "Your feedback is important to us" is bullshit. All they care about is selling more copies. There are a few exceptions where artistic integrity > money, but these are far too few to make a dent. Stop buying and recommending broken products. I...didn't recommend it to anyone? My friend bought it on launch, recommended it to me, I waited until this most recent sale to pick it up and then found it doesn't work, though I maybe gave it more of a try than I should have since it didn't usually crash right away. I guess I should have done more research but again the game worked fine for my friend so I thought I'd be fine on that front.
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May 31, 2021 17:17
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madfury posted:Stop buying broken games? "it seems fun but doesnt [technically] work" is not a ringing endorsment. Also advise your friends to not waste their time and energy on broken products. PCF had some credibility in FPS area but their handling of this game has shown they are just as incompetenet as other developers. One final note - any dev house that has the luxury of ignoring user feedback does so. "Your feedback is important to us" is bullshit. All they care about is selling more copies. There are a few exceptions where artistic integrity > money, but these are far too few to make a dent. Stop buying and recommending broken products. This is some goony rear end poo poo holy poo poo. He tried a game out and it didn't work, chill out.
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May 31, 2021 17:23
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I bought avengers, cyberpunk, outriders and Hood bro come at me
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May 31, 2021 18:02
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Hi, I'm the massive shithead rear end in a top hat who has been able to play Outriders without any issues. No connection issues except the first day or so, no inventory wipes, only like two CTDs in like 60+ hours, and no other major bugs or glitches. I even managed to 100% all of the Steam achievements...which was a total slog (kill X enemies with skill Y sucked for some skills) but I did it.
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May 31, 2021 18:09
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OxMan posted:I bought avengers, cyberpunk, outriders and Hood bro come at me What are you thinking of getting next so I can avoid it? Please ignore the fact that the only one of those I avoided was Hood.
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Jun 1, 2021 01:03
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Was hood any good?
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Jun 1, 2021 01:39
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I had a lot of fun with Cyberpunk/Avengers/This Game. They all had flaws (avengers completely shits the bed after the campaign) but I got my 60 bucks out of each of them. This game is just frustrating because it had a ton of potential but the post release rebalancing killed it.
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Jun 1, 2021 01:43
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Mebh posted:Was hood any good? Horribly broken and buggy with bad design
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Jun 1, 2021 01:59
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Mebh posted:Was hood any good? You could literally afk until the last minute and still win, so nah not really. Sucks, it was a cool concept
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Jun 1, 2021 02:00
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dogstile posted:This is some goony rear end poo poo holy poo poo. He tried a game out and it didn't work, chill out. Who pissed in your serial? I explained quite calmly why dev houses pump out crap quality games. Grow a skin.
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Jun 1, 2021 10:13
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Gallant always aggressively vets his videogame choices through extensive research. Goofus just buys games that look cool and occasionally is disappointed.
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Jun 1, 2021 13:40
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Having dealt with the 1 shot bullshit constantly and gotten frustrated enough to take a break from the game I decided to jump back in after the latest "patch" as it seemed to fix my biggest complaints. After taking 30 minutes to join my friends who are in the same town as me due to failure to join group errors and having a red connection the entire time (our internet is the top tier you can buy here) my main mag refill mod wasn't working correctly and I was still getting 1 shot from full health. What the gently caress are they actually doing over there at PCF lol
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Jun 6, 2021 20:07
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Orange Carlisle posted:What the gently caress are they actually doing over there at PCF lol Getting ready to abandon this game probably
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Jun 6, 2021 20:18
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Codependent Poster posted:Getting ready to abandon this game probably It really does seem as though they want it to die and for the players to just go away Though I'm sure they're probably getting a ton of abuse coming from every direction so I'm not surprised by the silence
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Jun 6, 2021 21:22
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What sucks is that if they just rolled back the balance changes but left in any stability changes that actually worked, so people could just enjoy the game, it would probably be pretty good!
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Jun 6, 2021 21:48
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Ironically the best time to play this game was launch week, if you could log in and play without getting all your stuff deleted.
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Jun 6, 2021 23:23
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Raged posted:What are you thinking of getting next so I can avoid it? Pre-ordered Chivalry 2.
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Jun 7, 2021 02:16
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As soon as they started nerfing weapons and abilities in a non-pvp game while making it clear they didnt care if the player felt powerful in a looter shooter game where you're eventually supposed to feel like a god it quickly spiked everything through the basement in quality and it never recovered, even beyond the connection and inventory issues etc The game was fun until the developer decided it shouldn't be
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Jun 7, 2021 02:53
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Canon answer: PCF were on the right track, but then found out ICR made a thread and there's some universal laws you do not mess with.
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Jun 7, 2021 06:24
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OxMan posted:Pre-ordered Chivalry 2. Yeah that's the next "will be fun for 5 minutes until the playerbase immediately dies off and the only people left are the mega-ballerinas". I hope you like arguing about racism because that's all that's left after that point. Mailer posted:Canon answer: PCF were on the right track, but then found out ICR made a thread and there's some universal laws you do not mess with. It is known
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Jun 7, 2021 11:24
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Mailer posted:Canon answer: PCF were on the right track, but then found out ICR made a thread and there's some universal laws you do not mess with. 
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Jun 7, 2021 13:34
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Mailer posted:Canon answer: PCF were on the right track, but then found out ICR made a thread and there's some universal laws you do not mess with. 'Struth. I thought by now we would have had a Jason Schieer article by now about how the dev team had a plan to use the game servers to mine cryptocurrency and tried to scare off the playerbase like a Scooby-Doo villain.
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Jun 7, 2021 14:40
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Father Wendigo posted:'Struth. 100% convinced the only reason that Outriders' failure isn't as big of a media shitstorm is because Square and PCF aren't as high profile as CDPR or Bioware/EA.
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Jun 7, 2021 15:02
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it being on game pass certainly suppressed the flow of anger from its 3.5 million players 
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Jun 7, 2021 15:26
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UnknownMercenary posted:100% convinced the only reason that Outriders' failure isn't as big of a media shitstorm is because Square and PCF aren't as high profile as CDPR or Bioware/EA. I also think that while it had issues, it wasn't fundamentally broken on almost all levels. Plus, like you said, the hype factor was infinitesimally lower for this. Other than the sign in issue, this has run very, very well on PS5, and I'm sad they are making MP-balance decisions about their SP game that make it less fun. Want me to play more? Make it so I don't have to run 4 CT13/14 expeditions to get a single legendary which has a seeming 75% chance of being a dupe.
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Jun 7, 2021 15:26
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Has the endgame shop rotated yet?
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Jun 7, 2021 15:35
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have a thing also you get a free god-roll legendary you dont have if you log inquote:Balancing:
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Jun 11, 2021 00:09
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Cool. I got a God rolled High Roller for my Trickster. That's fun.
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Jun 11, 2021 12:53
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Good on them I guess? (not directed at you Sal, just a general "nice changes, but probably too little too late")
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Jun 11, 2021 13:08
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It's too little, but probably not too late. Like standard procedure if they actually do have "bigger" plans and reworks coming is to just finish that. and tie it together with whatever their next content they wanted to release with a media/marketing push. Most people have probably checked out. Do the quick semi balancing stuff for the people who are still playing and finding fun. and then just release whatever content you have planned with the larger changes to expeditions and the like. Will they pull it off, I wouldn't bet on it, but it's almost never too late if you are given the time and money to actually fix stuff. They said this wasn't a live game at launch and they'd be supporting it with expansions or whatever nonsense. So I figure they at least get one of those to try and change their game's narrative.
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Jun 11, 2021 13:57
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Reception to the anomaly buffs seems positive. The health changes theoretically mean you can double your endgame health with all max health pieces but given the nature of endgame that seems like a non-starter. Not convinced yet that the health change matters when damage mitigation itself still isn't really fixed and enemy attacks appear to be percentages of player health to begin with.
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Jun 11, 2021 14:24
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Damage being a % of players health would be insane. It would make absolutely no sense to design it that way. So I probably wouldn't be surprised if that were true for this game. And yeah, what's the point of having more health if the timers are so strict and the rewards so bad if you even miss the first cut off?
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bamhand posted:Damage being a % of players health would be insane. It would make absolutely no sense to design it that way. So I probably wouldn't be surprised if that were true for this game. I can see for solo they have to sort of keep it that way, but in parties you should get more (maybe a lot more?) time, but they take a penalty chunk if anyone is downed, so a group that is built for tankiness can still gold.
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