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At this point, I'm sure that Odakawa's parents died in a Yakuza-related accident, and he's been living on hush money ever since. That's why he can't accept the money; it's dirty. My suspicion is that it's Dobu's boss who's responsible, and they're likely family in some way. There was something off about the pier shooting. Was that really skull Gatch after Dobu, or was that the Alpaca trying to off her ex? Something's up EDIT: It might have been little Daimon playing vigilante. Squidster fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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Squidster posted:At this point, I'm sure that Odakawa's parents died in a Yakuza-related accident, and he's been living on hush money ever since. That's why he can't accept the money; it's dirty. My suspicion is that it's Dobu's boss who's responsible, and they're likely family in some way. And for no reason other than narrative density, they died in the same car accident as the Daimon Bros Parents. Maybe they were driving/in the taxi?
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Jun 1, 2021 01:07
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Borrowing screenshots from Reddit, it's 100% a second shooter. 
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Jun 1, 2021 01:11
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Squidster posted:Borrowing screenshots from Reddit, it's 100% a second shooter. They are different guns for sure. My first guess was the little cop twin, but the color of the hand seemed slightly off, they are more of a tan than a white, guns aren't part of the police kit, it would go against his justice obession and he shouldn't know Dobu would be at the docks. My wild speculation? The second shooter is Kabasawa's groupie. The color of the hand matches her better, she was in a position to see the text from Odokawa, and she has the motive of wanting to make the target of her admiration a real hero.
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Jun 1, 2021 01:52
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Apparently the gun used is a standard police-issued gun in Japan, so it seems likely that it is actually one of the Daimons (or possibly just another officer that was alerted by Daimon the younger?). I'm almost more inclined to believe it'd be the older Daimon who has some ulterior motive for turning on Dobu since I feel like it wouldn't really make sense for the younger one to just shoot his shot and then scarper rather than actually apprehending him.
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Jun 1, 2021 02:01
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Didn't expect Dobu to be so wholesome. I love it.
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Jun 1, 2021 02:22
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Elfface posted:And for no reason other than narrative density, they died in the same car accident as the Daimon Bros Parents. Maybe they were driving/in the taxi? I don't think the timeline matches up for this. I'm pretty sure Odokawa is much older than the Daimon bros, and his parents died when he was still in elementary school.
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Jun 1, 2021 02:41
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Squidster posted:At this point, I'm sure that Odakawa's parents died in a Yakuza-related accident, and he's been living on hush money ever since. That's why he can't accept the money; it's dirty. My suspicion is that it's Dobu's boss who's responsible, and they're likely family in some way. That would go a long way to explaining how we're going to see Odakawa at a steam room with Yano & Dobu's boss next week.
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Jun 1, 2021 03:18
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I feel it's gonna be Older Daimon because he's practically disappeared from the story these last few episodes.
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Jun 1, 2021 03:55
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Ignis posted:I feel it's gonna be Older Daimon because he's practically disappeared from the story these last few episodes. This seems pretty likely, think he's doubledipping and is on Yano's take as well?
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Jun 1, 2021 05:07
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Cainer posted:This seems pretty likely, think he's doubledipping and is on Yano's take as well? i think it has more to do with keeping up the lie around his little brother. O.D. is pretty protective/controlling around Y.D., so he'd probably ice dobu if that meant staying in his good graces for that same reason i'm definitely favoring O.D. as the shooter, the younger brother wouldn't have the balls to pull the trigger that fast or accurately
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Jun 1, 2021 06:46
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Something I haven't seen commented on yet: When Dobu and the polar bear yakuza guy are fighting, Odokawa specifically points about how it's in human nature to fight even though to the viewer they are clearly seen as animals. Also, in Kakihana's flashback as a kid the adult figures are clearly human, albeit with the camera only showing them from the neck down. Does this all imply that Odokawa only began disassociating people as animals starting from adolescence onwards? Perhaps there's something about his imposed isolation that warped his brain growing up that we'll find out more about as Dr. Goriki continues his investigation into Odokawa's background.
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WrightOfWay posted:I don't think the timeline matches up for this. I'm pretty sure Odokawa is much older than the Daimon bros, and his parents died when he was still in elementary school. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zPlCGTv_vs This trailer gives Odokawa's age as 41 and the Daimon's age at 36, which might work if you assume the Daimons were about five in that flashback we saw to the day their parents died. They seemed a little older to me, but that wouldn't be too weird. Honestly was kind of cool to see the show (seemingly) wrap up the Kakihana and Kabasawa storylines this week to make way for the Odokawa backstory stuff. I don't think any viewer is surprised Odokawa's parents are actually dead, so that reveal mostly existed for Goriki, but it does confirm Odokawa has had that story for a long time and can either 1. lie about it convincingly (plausible, he's good at that) or 2. actually has deluded himself into believing they didn't die. We also learn he and Kakihana have been friends since at least high school in this episode and I remember Kakihana also bringing up Odokawa's parents "abandoning him" in one of the early episodes, so Odokawa has told that story for most of his life, then.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Didn't expect Dobu to be so wholesome. I love it. Did everyone who likes Dobu now miss the part where he robs the hippo at the end of the scene? He's right but he's also manipulating him lol
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an actual dog posted:Did everyone who likes Dobu now miss the part where he robs the hippo at the end of the scene? He's right but he's also manipulating him lol kabasawa incited a mob against him, "found" him in a quiet area with no witnesses, and then did a happy little victory dance with his back turned he got off easier than someone in his position had any right to
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Jun 2, 2021 04:35
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i have less sympathy for the hippo than I do kakihana tbh. maybe just my age and having a revulsion to youtubers
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an actual dog posted:Did everyone who likes Dobu now miss the part where he robs the hippo at the end of the scene? He's right but he's also manipulating him lol Also, while it seems oddly out of place give the type of story this is, there's something deeply satisfying about a street fight that ends with the "smaller" guy beating the crap out of his much more massive adversary.
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i wouldn't say i like either of them that much but it just felt like a situation of ill-gotten gains being taken by another criminal. probably works out better for kaba since he really has nothing for people to come after despite his little "no refunds" addendum.
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i would say that kabasawa would've been much worse off if it had been yano instead of dobu, but the translation for the latest audio drama reveals that yano can barely take care of himself without sekiguchi minding him these gangsters are clown shoes
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Jun 2, 2021 05:14
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Yano definitely comes across as the type who'd cut someone and not feel an iota of remorse.
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Jun 2, 2021 05:38
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Yano definitely comes across as the type who'd cut someone and not feel an iota of remorse.
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Dobu has his flaws, but he's at least a professional. Forces of 'justice' trying to hunt him down? Part of the job. But he's not gonna kill someone he doesn't have to. Also, Odokawa and Kakihana's friendship was summed up perfectly in the drive home. "You've been pathetic since then."
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Something I haven't seen commented on yet: I just went back and rewatched the episode. If you check at 12:13, you can see the lower half of his mother's jaw, and it's a monkey jaw identical to Kakihana's.
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Something I haven't seen commented on yet: If Odakawa has always seen other people as animals then he would've grown up with people calling the bipedal talking animals "human" so it still makes sense for him to talk about human nature even if he has been hallucinating like this his whole life. Assuming this is hallucination, which seems like a safe bet so far.
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Some big confirmations this episode. Yuki is in fact a replacement for missing high school girl in mystery kiss, and MHG is dead and not in Odokawa's closet (Odokawa's reaction of "That's not her?" confirms that current Yuki and found in a river Yuki are different people, especially considering Odokawa's god tier talent and recognizing individuals). Makes me feel more strongly in my theory that Yamamoto and Yano are involved in her death and why getting Odokawa's data is so important to them.
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odokawa giving off some real "i'm surrounded by idiots" energy in this episode as for the end-of-episode revelation, i don't know if yamamoto/yano were involved in yuki's death, but rui definitely was. in one of the audio dramas the mystery kiss girls are playing a truth/lie game amongst themselves, and two of the secrets are "i've killed someone" and "i've disposed of a body." next episode's probably going to detail how that happened my big question is how shirakawa knew odokawa was going to be in that construction yard. the most charitable interpretation is that she's been tailing him ever since goriki went off on his own investigation
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Oxxidation posted:my big question is how shirakawa knew odokawa was going to be in that construction yard. the most charitable interpretation is that she's been tailing him ever since goriki went off on his own investigation[/spoiler] Kung Food fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jun 7, 2021 |
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Kung Food posted:She could be the one who put the gps in his cab. I thought it was weird that it would have been Tanaka to plant the tracker because I don't think he has ever been inside the cab and if he had been why play the long game and not shoot Odokawa on the spot? Shirikawa however, has been in the back of the cab before. If it is her she might also be the one who shot Dobu in the leg since she would know they were at the dock and the color on the hand would match. And now that I'm down that rabbit hole maybe she shot the window too, not to threaten Odokawa but taking a pot shot at some intruders who were snooping around. The shooting into an empty room bit always seemed off to me. i'd say the gps is still tanaka's, because he intercepted odokawa on the highway well after the phone would have died (and in a jacked vehicle no less, which would have taken some planning). maybe shirakawa was able to piggyback off its signal somehow, but that doesn't feel plausible i can't be the only one who keeps mentally comparing tanaka to carrie fisher's character from the blues brothers, can i
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Kung Food posted:Some big confirmations this episode. I'm honestly going in circles with trying to logic this out. I keep coming back to the obvious answer being that MHG is pretending to be Yuki, and the dead body in the river is the real Yuki - but then either if dashcam girl was the MHG Dobu should have recognized her, or if it was the real Yuki Odokawa's statement at the end is confusing (and also I feel he should've realized sooner the two girls he drove were different people based on how good he's supposed to be at that). I'm kinda still leaning towards that girl he first drove being a third party entirely. I guess it could be that MHG died way back, Odokawa drove the real Yuki both times, and the news is misidentifying the MHG as Yuki? That doesn't feel right though.
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Kung Food posted:Some big confirmations this episode. And probably the biggest reveal yet, Capoeira's actualy pretty strong.
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Cainer posted:And probably the biggest reveal yet, Capoeira's actualy pretty strong. Absolutely hooting and hollering when this happened.
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MHG stands for Missing Highschool Girl, right? Also, I'm really bad at matching Japanese names to specific characters besides like Odokawa and Dobu. 
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So that's it? We're some kinda OddTaxi?
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Holy poo poo this show is excellent. I'm really interested in learning more about what Gori is discovering and how it will inevitably connect to the rest of the colliding stories. I think at this point that's the only thread that's not currently completely tied in with the rest.
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Well it seems like from the sauna scene the yakuza boss is the one supporting Odokawa, but Odokawa doesn't know that. All that's really left to discover is how exactly Odokawa's parents' deaths were related to him.
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Cainer posted:And probably the biggest reveal yet, Capoeira's actually pretty strong. 
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Sindai posted:Well it seems like from the sauna scene the yakuza boss is the one supporting Odokawa, but Odokawa doesn't know that. All that's really left to discover is how exactly Odokawa's parents' deaths were related to him. Yeah that's my thinking too, but I can't help but feel like there's a twist coming. Stoked for it.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:So that's it? We're some kinda OddTaxi? I'm amazed it wasn't short for Odokawas Taxi.
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Kung Food posted:I really don't like Big Daimon being the shooter because how would he know Dobu was at the docks at that exact time? The Daimons are twins, I fully expect that Odokawa spilled info to the wrong one at some point. They seem like the only two that could fool his animal sense. Especially with the constant "Are you secretly smart?" stuff that's been dropped a couple times.
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