MrMojok posted:

I tend to joke around a lot ITT, but it is serious time now.

This is exactly it. The fraudits aren't seeking to overturn the 2020 election. Let's say somehow, a fraudit managed to prove beyond a doubt that Biden cheated and stole the election. There is still no constitutional mechanism to invalidate the election, and somehow reinstate Trump.

While a lot of poo poo-stupid republican chud voters and Q-tards think there is, there just isn't. Smart repub politicians like Ted Cruz, the ghoul McConnell, and others know that it isn't possible.

What this really is, is a PRE-steal. They are laying the grounds for 2022 and 2024, laying the grounds for a future where *suspected* fraud can be used to invalidate any election result that doesn't go their way.

I also want to add, someone in this thread a few pages back said "Trump won legitimately in 2016, and we didn't contest it."

I don't think I would go so far as to say it was legitimate.

1) There were about 16,000 votes that miraculously flipped from Gore to Trump in Volusia county Florida, and famously the repubs blocked a recount link
2) Thousand of votes made by black people disappeared in Georgia in 2018 link
3) HR 2722, the SAFE Act, introduced by House Democrats in 2019, would have completely removed all possibility of this poo poo the Repub lawmakers and Chuds are alleging now happened in the 2020 election. But, House Repubs voted against it 184-1. They blocked a bill that would have eliminated all doubt of the poo poo they are alleging now, because they wanted to be able to allege it now.


Republican lawmakers and their chud mouthpieces intended to totally destroy the voting machine company Dominion, this much is obvious. It wasn't because they hate Dominion, it was because they needed a fall guy to fit the narrative. Dominion may win billions in lawsuits, but they are finished as a company.

Who will step in to fill that void?

It's a company called ES&S, who has donated to Republican state legislation committees, used lobbyists to make illegal secret donations to people to get them to choose them for their new voting systems in their regional areas, paid to fly election officials to Vegas and bought them tickets to shows, leaked voting information for almost two million Chicago voters, were responsible for the thousands of black votes disappearing in Georgia in 2018 and in Tennessee in 2015, And who most recently lied about their election machine connectivity to the internet and insisted on doing their own hash validation testing.

I will give any poster ITT a forums upgrade of their choice, to anyone who can provide one single quote where a Republican politician even says the name "ES&S"

They don't say it, not ever, not on TV, not on twitter, not in any interview, and it's because they want to draw attention away from it, and focus attention on Dominion. There has been some kind of memo that's been sent out and they have all been told, "do not EVER, EVER, say ES&S. Only talk about Dominion and Smartmatic."

They have been cheating for years, ES&S is a big part of it, and is going to become an even bigger part of it in the next couple of years. This is how people like McConnell/Graham/Collins won their elections last year, and we are in deep, deep loving poo poo now.

The machines will be rigged in 2022 and 2024, in exactly the way the Republicunts are claiming they were rigged in 2020, and if they still somehow lose, the new state-level poo poo they are passing will make it possible to invalidate any Dem wins.

And not only is nobody in the Dem congress doing anything about it, nobody in the Dem congress is even TALKING about it. Dems lose and concede, there is no talk of audits, the same is going to happen in 2022 and 2024, and we are in deep loving poo poo.

mono posted:

Onkel Hedwig posted:

Its Happening! posted:

Why do conspiracy nuts latch onto a stupid loving global hoax that requires involvement and coordination of literally hundreds of millions of people, yet seem to completely ignore actual conspiracies like these?

Is it the lack of a personal stake or excitement? Does a conspiracy need to be like a Michael Bay movie to be compelling to ordinary folks?

Gutter Phoenix posted:

quote:

“I don’t think they realized that some of us litigators were going to catch on and hold their feet to the fire and expose what really happened or that they could shut us up by, say, suing me for 4.3 billion dollars in three different states,” Powell said at the panel discussion. “Threatening me is like waving a red flag in a bull’s face.”

Dominion’s suit against her should be dismissed, Powell continued, because “number one, they don't have jurisdiction over us and number two, we meant what we said and we have the evidence to back it up.”

canyoneer posted:

I love this guy's expression in the photo. It's like he's just realizing that maybe they took it too far and he'll get in trouble for it and probably fired from Gamestop.

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Its Happening! posted:

Why do conspiracy nuts latch onto a stupid loving global hoax that requires involvement and coordination of literally hundreds of millions of people, yet seem to completely ignore actual conspiracies like these?

Is it the lack of a personal stake or excitement? Does a conspiracy need to be like a Michael Bay movie to be compelling to ordinary folks?

MrMojok posted:

1) There were about 16,000 votes that miraculously flipped from Gore to Trump in Volusia county Florida, and famously the repubs blocked a recount link

Stink Billyums posted:

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1402305492391763976

the defense she's using in the lawsuit is "it's just an opinion" lol

Steadiman posted:

Party of small government, no restrictions for small businesses to set their own policies. Now here's some restrictions. But it's fine if you don't want to serve gay couples though. Democracy works!

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1401939616630984704

Hazo posted:

And we know he's doing this solely to inflame and encourage his brick-stupid conservative base who think they're being heroes by refusing to take free basic steps to avoid a deadly disease.

Hazo posted:

These people pull cartoon villain bullshit like this and still think they're the good guys

Like imagine if a Democratic mayor tried to do anything close to this. The outrage would never end.

And we know he's doing this solely to inflame and encourage his brick-stupid conservative base who think they're being heroes by refusing to take free basic steps to avoid a deadly disease.