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Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

priznat posted:

I signed up for the ea origin premier (for a year) for battlefield V and anthem and that did NOT work out in my favour!

drat lol

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Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Dinosaurs! posted:

Balancing gameplay around 10+ unique classes sounds difficult. Splitting the traditional load out choices into rigid classes under the guise of more options would be lazy. I’m sorry if my comment during this afternoon of speculation and shitposting upset you.

After watching that JackFrags video it sounds like the classes will actually be unique and there are some neat ideas, although I’m not thrilled about snipers having a proximity warning system. My concern is the additional complexity to a series that has really struggled with gameplay balance. But hey, you don’t know until you try. Another poster pointed out Apex Legends has handled it well, so maybe it’ll work out and be fun.

Given how :dice: works out it's going to start of unbalanced as gently caress but I love :synpa:

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

No battlefield game has ever been balanced and yet the best ones are the ones where the everything is overpowered in its own special way :thunk:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Yeah :sigh: I don’t think there were any other premier games during that time period either. I did get a bit of a deal on it at least but was still like 1.5x the cost of one of those poo poo games.

I hate-played both a bit

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Fart Car '97 posted:

No battlefield game has ever been balanced and yet the best ones are the ones where the everything is overpowered in its own special way :thunk:

If everything is overpowered in its own special way its a balanced game.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Specialists on paper seem kinda cool but at the end of the day the best ones are probably just going to be the ones with mobility. Like of the announced ones so far the only 2 that seem worth playing are grappling hook and wing suit. Maybe 1 of the medic ones per squad, but the others seem hopelessly outclassed by mobility.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Nazzadan posted:

Specialists on paper seem kinda cool but at the end of the day the best ones are probably just going to be the ones with mobility. Like of the announced ones so far the only 2 that seem worth playing are grappling hook and wing suit. Maybe 1 of the medic ones per squad, but the others seem hopelessly outclassed by mobility.

I don’t like the idea of specialists at all, in any game, but if they’re set to be in hopefully it will be like in Siege where everybody is essentially the same aside from their little situation-specific gadgets. Admittedly comparing BF and Siege is apples and oranges, but still.

Call of Duty was on a specialist kick for a handful of games, and every one of them was poorer for it.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
I am very excited about this most shooty of mans.

It feels good to be excited about Battlefield

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Jenny Agutter posted:

*monkey's paw finger curls* respawn entertainment is now a subdivision of dice and will be exclusively working on the battlefield and battlefront franchises

Vince Zampella left Respawn for Dice LA and brought quite a few of his core people with him, so this is already reality

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxHYw6aenx4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5eYpriKxVU




Blue Raider posted:

I don’t like the idea of specialists at all, in any game, but if they’re set to be in hopefully it will be like in Siege where everybody is essentially the same aside from their little situation-specific gadgets. Admittedly comparing BF and Siege is apples and oranges, but still.

Call of Duty was on a specialist kick for a handful of games, and every one of them was poorer for it.
The specialists were fine in CODBLOPS 3, but they really only had a special move that you could only use rarely to distinguish them. Same with IW. BLOPS 4 I hear they became somewhat imbalanced?

Siege has some of the stronger Specialist/Class distinction in any game because your choice determines your primary and secondary weapon choice, armor/speed class, as well as a gadget. The only stronger differences you find will be in TF2 and Overwatch.

With BF2042 it seems like it's just a gadget and a perk and that's it? You can still pick any guns you want?

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 9, 2021

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Is there... any actual first person game play footage that last for more than a few seconds? Not just 3rd-Person cinematics?

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
The trailer was rendered in engine, so that’s what it’s gonna look like (more or less) and the gameplay reveal is in a couple of days

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum
They will release the gameplay trailer on Sunday.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Julius CSAR posted:

The trailer was rendered in engine, so that’s what it’s gonna look like (more or less) and the gameplay reveal is in a couple of days

"in engine" has been code word for pre-rendered for a long time.

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

Fart Car '97 posted:

Vince Zampella left Respawn for Dice LA and brought quite a few of his core people with him, so this is already reality

No he didn't.
He is the head of both studios.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Fart Car '97 posted:

"in engine" has been code word for pre-rendered for a long time.

:rolleyes:

BaronVanAwesome
Sep 11, 2001

I will never learn the secrets of "Increased fake female boar sp..."

Never say never, buddy.
Now you know.
Now we all know.
Where the gently caress is Metro in that maplist

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2

Fart Car '97 posted:

"in engine" has been code word for pre-rendered for a long time.
In-Engine just means "using a photomode that takes several seconds to render every frame to like 30720x17280 pixels + z-buffer, which is then downsampled to actual trailer resolution with the z-buffer used for nice DOF effects" because let's face it, game engines have been able to render stuff that looks pre-rendered as long as they take long enough to render each frame to a super high resolution since Crysis.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



BaronVanAwesome posted:

Where the gently caress is Metro in that maplist

The "love letter to Battlefield fans" will just be Metro and Locker smashed together into 1 turbo long hallway grinder

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003


I would explain it but:

The United States posted:

In-Engine just means "using a photomode that takes several seconds to render every frame to like 30720x17280 pixels + z-buffer, which is then downsampled to actual trailer resolution with the z-buffer used for nice DOF effects" because let's face it, game engines have been able to render stuff that looks pre-rendered as long as they take long enough to render each frame to a super high resolution since Crysis.

Mr Beens posted:

No he didn't.
He is the head of both studios.

Ah, I didn't know he remained head of Respawn as well, that is cool. He did have a number of his long time staffers move to DICE LA though.

Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Jun 9, 2021

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

22 minutes of LevelCap, pass

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



jisforjosh posted:

22 minutes of LevelCap, pass

This but for all of the epic battlefield Gamer (tm) content creator videos of them restating things we can plainly see in the reveal trailer by using our mark one human eyeballs and some basic cognition

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Kazinsal posted:

This but for all of the epic battlefield Gamer (tm) content creator videos of them restating things we can plainly see in the reveal trailer by using our mark one human eyeballs and some basic cognition

Yeah, trailer opinions are worthless but the videos diving into the presentation that the content creators got earlier is worthwhile.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Bring back Golmud Railway, Coward DICE!

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
In metro just throw that turret down and hide around the corner, PROFIT!

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

runchild posted:

Was anyone else mildly weirded out by how much the trailer focused on people getting squished/ shot en masse/running in terror rather than doing cool things? Most of the people “winning” were kind of framed as the bad guy (or were just forces of nature), while the ones framed as protagonists just got chased/slaughtered.

Aside from that weird vibe, looks cool. Interested to see actual gameplay.

it seemed like it was highlighting that there are AI bots in the game now. it felt very Titanfall-ish where the player 'specialists' are bad rear end dudes and the regular AI grunts are shitlords to get wasted

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

Captain Beans posted:

it seemed like it was highlighting that there are AI bots in the game now. it felt very Titanfall-ish where the player 'specialists' are bad rear end dudes and the regular AI grunts are shitlords to get wasted

I felt very seen as one of the shitlords who gets wasted insanely quickly.

Especially by any kind of killstreak type thing those are magnetically attracted to me.

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Captain Beans posted:

it seemed like it was highlighting that there are AI bots in the game now. it felt very Titanfall-ish where the player 'specialists' are bad rear end dudes and the regular AI grunts are shitlords to get wasted

I don't think that's what's been implied? Just that you can set up servers to substitute players with bots if you want. So you can have 128 players, or 28 players and 100 bots

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



Gonz posted:

Bring back Caspian Border, Coward DICE!

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Fart Car '97 posted:

I don't think that's what's been implied? Just that you can set up servers to substitute players with bots if you want. So you can have 128 players, or 28 players and 100 bots

ah hmm well I guess it's all to be seen. I saw the OP bullet point of AI in FULL matches to mean that there will always be some bots, but that could mean bots just fill empty player slots.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


If they just pull cool things from TF2 into Battlefield like auto turret engineers and syringe gun medics I'm honestly here for it.

Make poo poo fun! Also give me a super-tunguska with quad 30mm chainguns and dual KORNET launchers that have laser-guide support for, ya know, teamwork and fire support.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
I’m curious if you can do 127bots plus yourself on a map. Are the bots server side control? I remember they had a tech demo spawning a zillion bots not too long ago.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
I mean it's not CASPIAN border but it sure is a border of some sort

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Looks… interesting. The Motely Crew song in the trailer seems to be .. setting the tone?

We will see, I won’t pre order it, but 64x64 does sound wonderful. Hopefully that means more than 2 tanks.

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


It is the C-SPAM border. You decide which side is which.

Hey while I'm posting wishful thinking I hope that rising fuel prices mean PMCs are using horses again. Cavalry owns in BF1.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Captain Beans posted:

ah hmm well I guess it's all to be seen. I saw the OP bullet point of AI in FULL matches to mean that there will always be some bots, but that could mean bots just fill empty player slots.
Someone linked an article earlier that implied they'd be OG style bots which replace players rather than Titanfall-esque style AI grunts:
https://wccftech.com/battlefield-2042-deep-dive-with-dice-128-players-ai-bots-huge-maps-dynamic-events-specialists-and-more/

quote:

You can basically play all alone as a human player in a match otherwise filled with AI on both sides. Or, if needed, it can be a mix of humans and AI. DICE said they've had this on their whiteboard for many years, and they are finally at a place where they can offer it.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

priznat posted:

I’m curious if you can do 127bots plus yourself on a map. Are the bots server side control? I remember they had a tech demo spawning a zillion bots not too long ago.

My understanding from some of the breakdowns from BF content creators, is you can play bot only matches to help new players learn the mechanics and familiarize themselves with vehicles

Edit: beat above

Shoehead
Sep 28, 2005

Wassup, Choom?
Ya need sumthin'?
I can't wait to be really mad at this game! :v:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.

jisforjosh posted:

My understanding from some of the breakdowns from BF content creators, is you can play bot only matches to help new players learn the mechanics and familiarize themselves with vehicles

Edit: beat above

Yah that I got, I was more wondering if you can do full 64vs64 matches with everyone else being a bot. Or if it limits it to smaller player (bot) count matches.

It was cool that progression is the same in bot matches too so you’re not kind of punished for it. And really who cares about letting someone unlock weapon attachments vs ai.

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Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
one thing for sure is EA knows how to milk money out of games

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