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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Sat down and used a shedding blade on Apollo today and it's like a dog exploded in my back yard. Fur EVERYWHERE and there was more coming out but he was done and kept leaving to grab his sticks so I took the hint.

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Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



If you use a shedding blade like a furminator you'll just keep getting fur forever because it cuts the hair, just FYI. I've seen them seriously damage hair with over-vigorous use. An undercoat rake can be a better tool for double coats, or something like a curry brush or zoom groom for real short hair.

I only mention it because furminators get recommended a lot but they're really just clipper blades with a handle and only work when used correctly on certain coat types. There are tons of better tools for the price!

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
I kinda wish you'd posted that five days ago. Oh well :sigh:

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Instant Jellyfish posted:

If you use a shedding blade like a furminator you'll just keep getting fur forever because it cuts the hair, just FYI. I've seen them seriously damage hair with over-vigorous use. An undercoat rake can be a better tool for double coats, or something like a curry brush or zoom groom for real short hair.

I only mention it because furminators get recommended a lot but they're really just clipper blades with a handle and only work when used correctly on certain coat types. There are tons of better tools for the price!

It's not a furminator, it's something like this: shedding blade.

Is this still damaging if it's from over-use?

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



StrixNebulosa posted:

It's not a furminator, it's something like this: shedding blade.

Is this still damaging if it's from over-use?

That should be fine! It might not get the deep undercoat for dogs with really thick hair but it shouldn't cut the top coat like a furminator can.

I have three heavily shedding dogs and the undercoat rake is my favorite tool, besides bathing them with a ton of conditioner and using the forced air blower to remove undercoat.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I knew bred puppies were expensive but holy poo poo I didn't know they were £2500/pup expensive.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug

Jaded Burnout posted:

I knew bred puppies were expensive but holy poo poo I didn't know they were £2500/pup expensive.

We're shelling out $4500 for a Cavalier :negative:

No this was not my vote, yes I am expected to chip in, why do you ask

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I think I’m going to have to go with a used model.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Jaded Burnout posted:

I knew bred puppies were expensive but holy poo poo I didn't know they were £2500/pup expensive.

2500 is on the low end for purebred dogs especially if theyre papered and they are allowed to be bred by thr new owners

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Jaded Burnout posted:

I think I’m going to have to go with a used model.

Mine have some cosmetic damage.

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



Stravag posted:

2500 is on the low end for purebred dogs especially if theyre papered and they are allowed to be bred by thr new owners

It really is highly variable on the breed, location and individual breeder. You can absolutely find health tested purebred dogs for a reasonable price if you hunt long enough, can travel and are willing to wait. I wouldn't say $2,500 is on the low end for most breeds for a limited registration puppy. That being said a lot of breeders have wildly increased their prices in the last year because the demand is so high. Things like french bulldogs that need to be birthed through c sections especially are super expensive, as are breeds that require extensive health testing and those that have small litters. I just saw some hairless frenchies being produced in China going for $30k each.

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
I think my roommate uses a furminator.. It is good at getting fur off but is it damaging? Are there other gimick items I should be aware of?

Edgar Allan Pwned
Apr 4, 2011

Quoth the Raven "I love the power glove. It's so bad..."
Oh does anyone recognize Good World Animal Rescue and protection inc? A dog shelter in Chicago 900$ per dog whom are from Russia

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Jaded Burnout posted:

I knew bred puppies were expensive but holy poo poo I didn't know they were £2500/pup expensive.

$2000 for our mini bernedoodle. The girls were $2500, and the 2 tricolor boys were $3000.

drat my desire for less shedding and insane cuteness.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Instant Jellyfish posted:

It really is highly variable on the breed, location and individual breeder. You can absolutely find health tested purebred dogs for a reasonable price if you hunt long enough, can travel and are willing to wait. I wouldn't say $2,500 is on the low end for most breeds for a limited registration puppy. That being said a lot of breeders have wildly increased their prices in the last year because the demand is so high. Things like french bulldogs that need to be birthed through c sections especially are super expensive, as are breeds that require extensive health testing and those that have small litters. I just saw some hairless frenchies being produced in China going for $30k each.

Also £2500 is $3500.

These are black labs.

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Jaded Burnout posted:

Also £2500 is $3500.

These are black labs.

lol, gently caress that. At least in the US where that's like the Ford Escort (sup, 80s kids) of dogs unless you're specifically targeting competition bloodlines.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


AlexDeGruven posted:

lol, gently caress that. At least in the US where that's like the Ford Escort (sup, 80s kids) of dogs unless you're specifically targeting competition bloodlines.

Yeah same, as far as I know.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

AlexDeGruven posted:

lol, gently caress that. At least in the US where that's like the Ford Escort (sup, 80s kids) of dogs unless you're specifically targeting competition bloodlines.

I just looked at my local shelter page. They currently have five lab puppies and nearly a dozen juvenile/adult labs, mostly black, some yellow, and even a chocolate. They're almost certainly not purebred, but I'm also not talking about obvious 50/50 pit mixes; I'm talking "this looks like 90+% lab". If you're not going to show or breed your dog, I have no idea why anyone would pay thousands for a "papered" lab.

(This is where someone comes in and says "WELL ACTUALLY, it's more responsible to get a dog from a reputable breeder than adopt from a shelter". You are never going to convince me of that apart from very specific circumstances or needs, so let's not have the argument for the tenth time.)

Instant Jellyfish
Jul 3, 2007

Actually not a fish.



I don't think it's wrong to adopt from a shelter by any means, but I do think shelter dog populations are highly variable so what you're seeing locally to you is not going to be what is available to me. 99% of adoptable dogs in my area are either pits or hounds, which are great dogs but not what I want even if I didn't have specific needs.

Adopt or shop! They're both good options! Just find the dog that's right for you and don't support puppy mills.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Yeah, there are 1.3K dogs listed for adoption on Petfinder within 100 miles of me. There's a pretty good variety too.

There's one I want to go adopt right now but I've already got 3 dogs.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I'm up for adopting, it was my plan A, but there's a supply/demand thing going on here where rescue locations can be very picky in who adopts the dogs, which usually means they go to someone with the perfect home and prior breed experience. Not always, though, and I'm still looking into it as an option.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!
The private rescues around here can be kind of picky, but the county shelters literally couldn't give a poo poo who's adopting. They make you sign a thing that says you won't abandon or abuse the dog, and you're sent on your merry way.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Go to the municipal shelters in person and meet the dogs that haven't been listed on any website yet.

One shelter near me has rows of dogs that have been cleared for adoption but haven't been fixed, named or photographed. Breed specific rescues will often pull dogs from shelters at this point. I see a lot of labs, pits, hounds and shepherds on their website but they had Huskies, GSPs, and even an Akita up for adoption in person.

The upside to jumping through the rescues hoops is usually you'll know more about the dog since it was likely fostered for a while first.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I'm not trying to be difficult, but this is the UK, we don't have county or municipal shelters. In fact to my knowledge we don't have any government shelters of any kind, local or national. All the shelters are charity run, and I've already been to the local ones in person pre-covid. When I say it's a supply/demand thing, I mean they explicitly won't take walk-ins even before covid, appointment only, and nothing is available that's not already listed. Due to demand they won't even reply to applications unless they're successful. It's why I went looking for breeders in the first place. A lot of the shelters actually import stray dogs from europe for rehoming.

That said, I did find a few national search tools that are helping me out, so I'll definitely be giving it another go.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


It's always interesting to hear how things work in other countries.

I think someone posted from Finland a while back and there were basically no dogs available in the whole country.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


For some reason Romania appears to be where most of our rescues come from.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=uk+romanian+dog+rescue&ia=web

Now cats on the other hand, cats we got.

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
Registered staffordshire bull terrier puppies are probably dirt cheap in the UK, but we had to pay close to $2k here and travel a few states to get ours. Still pretty cheap compared to other sorts of purebreeds, but I think most people who want a pit bull type either get an american purebred or one of the zillions of dogs with pit bull blood in shelters for close to free.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


acidx posted:

Registered staffordshire bull terrier puppies are probably dirt cheap in the UK, but we had to pay close to $2k here and travel a few states to get ours. Still pretty cheap compared to other sorts of purebreeds, but I think most people who want a pit bull type either get an american purebred or one of the zillions of dogs with pit bull blood in shelters for close to free.

Had a quick look at some staffies and I'm seeing between £1500 and £3000 for most of them ($2500 - $5000).
https://www.pets4homes.co.uk/sale/dogs/staffordshire-bull-terrier/

breadnsucc
Jun 1, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
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breadnsucc fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Aug 21, 2021

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

breadnsucc posted:

this has been my experience, private shelters are a loving karen only rich person allowed to have dogs bullshit gatekeepery assholes

It depends. The private rescue in my little suburb is very good -- they place a ton of dogs and only turn away people if they see huge red flags.

On the other hand, I know of some breed-specific rescues that make you basically do a job interview, then they require a home visit, then you have to agree to follow-up visits for the next year, after signing something that says the rescue can reclaim the dog (without a refund of adoption fees!) at any time for any reason.

Yeah, no thanks.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Why are there so many pit bull crosses? Just the breed tending to attract lovely owners?

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Probably because pit is a generic term that applies to multiple breeds and random mutts get labeled "pit mixes" if they look a certain way.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!
I think it's a combination of things:

- Pits are a status dog for some people, and people who are likely to buy status dogs tend to be lovely owners (don't get them fixed, and/or get bored and abandon/surrender them).

- Pits are overall a popular type of dog, so you're just going to see more of them in shelters, similar to labs and lab mixes.

- Pits have an undeserved reputation for being aggressive or dangerous, which makes them less "adoptable" for a lot of people than other popular breeds.

Also what the poster above said, a lot of mutts get labeled as "pit mixes" if they have a muscular-looking head or stout build. I'd guess a lot of those don't actually have much/any pit in them.

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

There are lots of apartments or even towns that are no pit/pit mix of any amount allowed. Dog will be impounded and possibly put down same day. Bsl sucks

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Also, check your homeowners insurance as dog bites from certain breeds might be excluded.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
The boarding kennel that our friends recommended won’t take Pongo since he’s part pit, which I get, but he wouldn’t hurt a fly. Hell, he’s been attacked by another dog at the dog park and all Pongo wanted was to get away.

GoodBee
Apr 8, 2004


Do you actually know he's part pit or is that a guess?

I would probably advise that anyone registering a dog list it as a mix of something that isn't on any lists.

What's safe? Lab mix? Hound mix? Terrier mix?

Stravag
Jun 7, 2009

Shepard mixes can be dicey. If Kedah had been an Aussie or German i would have had an issue but because she was a dutch i escaped

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Gobi (7 month male Shiba Inu) has been pretty good about chewing, but he's been going after the wood on my porch recently and I'm wondering how to mitigate it. He's not neutered yet, but I'm probably going to try and have it done in about a month.

Shiba's are pretty mouthy/chewy dogs, but Gobi has been pretty good overall. When I got him he would go after these sharp corners of my wooden molding, and my table, pretty much anything wood. However, I got some bitter apple spray and stayed vigilant and as soon as he started chewing I'd spray it and tell him no. He learned pretty quickly and that hasn't been an issue.

I have a 2nd story porch that I let him out on because he likes to be out there to look at stuff and it keeps him busy when I'm working or whatever. It's fenced in and I put extra wire on it so he can't fall. It has this really lovely old gray-ish wood flooring, and it's basically falling apart as it is. It's chipping pretty bad, to the point where I could pick it apart with my hands. Gobi has been trying to chew on it and has successfully torn up a few big chunks, which is going to be a pain in the rear end when I'm trying to get my deposit back, but nothing too big. The issue is that I really want him to be able to hang out there without me having to constantly watch him, but he'll be out there for like an hour and be fine, then decide to chew some stuff up really quickly. It makes it so I can't be there to respond and show him his bad behavior. I've caught him a few times but still keeps trying to do it.

For the record, he has about a billion toys and things to chew on, but he really prefers to tear things up. Unless it has food, or I'm actively playing with him, he doesn't care for toys. He loves bones and rawhides and stuff, but even if I leave toys out he doesn't really play with them, so leaving things on the deck probably won't solve the issue.

I've thought about going to Home Depot and getting some cheap linoleum/plastic flooring to put there, but I'm not sure if that'll help.

Any advice?

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

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