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Popy posted:uhhhhh A lot of racists in Latin America see themselves as misplaced Yanks or Euros instead of identifying with their own country.
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ZearothK posted:A lot of racists in Latin America see themselves as misplaced Yanks or ftfy
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unbutthurtable posted:So I've been trying to dig into the recent elections in Mexico after keeping an eye out for AMLO stuff in the last two years (basically since people were really sloppily comparing him to Bernie Sanders in the US) and I'm kind of left wondering two things, if anyone has insights here: Main criticism from the left is his austerity program. he has implemented many good social programs, like cash moneys for student, but since he refuses to increease taxes and any form, most of the money came from shuffling money from others programs around. so for example the healthcare system was pretty badly gutted, which became a big problem once covid hit. covid in general was a disaster for AMLO. due to the aforementioned gutting of the healthcare system, our death rate was trough the roof. I think at one point you had something insane like a 36% chance of dying if you got covid and had to use a public hopsital. basically a loving death sentence. and since austerity was still the name of the game, there was absolutely no economic relief of any kind. i dont think there was a single peso of covid relief given out to anyone. not even like business loans or poo poo like that. as a result most people just went on with their lives as normal, because what the gently caress are you going to do? not work and starve to death? The other criticism from the left is his social conservative bent. despite having a super majority in both houses of congress, there has been little progress on social reforms. legal weed is supposedly coming along, albeit slowly. but there has been zero movement on abortion, gay rights, or anything of that nature. when women in mexico city rightly protested against this and the many other abuses that women in mexico have to endure, AMLO called them agitators and plants, refused to listen to their concerns, and put a big wall around the national palace. this was a huge fuckup and has done more than anything to erode my support for him quote:And secondly, digging into the parties involved and the history of the last couple elections, how on earth are these electoral alliances formed? I'm trying to not be naive and assume there's some kind of simple "these are the good guys and these are the bad guys" thing going on, but it's still tough to me. And they seem to completely realign every two years! Like, just in terms of political goals, why is Movimiento Ciudadano allied with PRI when it seems like they're kind of social democratic? Like, I get why MORENA and PT are together, but then the weirdly conservative Greens are there too? My dumb outsider perspective is that it actually seems like some kind of leftish coalition is possible and could do decent numbers, but...it isn't. Are there just leaders involved that have beef and history with each other or something? The main thing you have to understand about mexican politics, is that we as a society are not very politicized, unlike say the US or Europe. most people dont identify themselves as being right wing or leftwing, socialist, liberal or conservative, or whatever. for the most part most people just dont care about politics, beyond a general understanding that everyone sucks and is corrupt as gently caress. and while there is a clear left wing/right wing split between the leftist parties and the rest, for the most part political parties dont run on politics. what I mean by this is that its very rare for a politician or political party to run on some sort of platform or program. instead political campaigns are mostly about vague slogans and your usual incument against opposition dynamics, with a lot of arguing about which party is the most corrupt. its in this space where new parties like movimiento ciudadano can prosper, as they dont have the same image problems the larger parties have. what all this means tho is that political alliances can shift around a lot and nobody bats an eye because most people just dont think aboutpolitixs the way you or i do but in more specific terms, a lot of the current alliances have to do more with the big split that happened with PRD and MORENA. basically AMLO broke away from PRD, taking most of its people and basically all of their voters, leaving PRD as a rump party that had no choice but to ally with the right wingers. this left the AMLO vs anti AMLO as the main split between the political parties. Now you would expect PRI to ally with PAN as they are both kinda conservative and both oppose AMLO, but 1) PAN and PRI are mortal enemies 2) while PAN is your standard neolib party, PRI defies any easy political characterization . i would describe them as corporatist paternalistic oligarchs. their main thing back in the day of one party rule is that they were an unbeatable, unassailable alliance between the syndicates, the capitalists, and the goverment. nowadays they do want to implemennt some social programs to keep the poor appeased (and get more opportunies for graft), all the while being extremely authoritarian, with their only real goal being funneling as much public money to their own coffers as possible. so you end with 3 major blocks: the left wing block that used to be the PRD/PT and is now centered around morena, the right wing block centered around PAN, and the anything goes PRI block. And while the major parties mostly stay the same, the smaller party satellites around them shift around a lot as their political fortunes wax and wane As for the greens, they are a bunch of evil, opportunist fucks (they are literally considered to be the worst green party in the planet) who will do and say anything to get votes. that said their coalition with MORENA was mostly confined to a few states. finally movimiento naranja dont really have a political ideology and are mostly running on not being the other guys. any alliance with morena would be a death sentence here in the north, where support for morena is at its lowest levels (also why morena had to recruit clara to have any sort of chance) anyways i hope all that stuff made sense, because i feel like i just confused you more. tldr mexican politics are weird babypolis has issued a correction as of 03:12 on Jun 11, 2021 |
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It used to be we had PRI which was just a "centrist" neoliberal party, which just means they would do whatever they thought would help them stay in power the longest so they could steal as much as possible, PRD which was our left party, lead by Cardenas, who was the son of a mostly beloved leftist president from the 30s, and PAN which was the right wing party, and a bunch of satellite parties that only survived through coalitions since they would generally get under 2% of the vote. AMLO broke with PRD and basically took most of the party with him to Morena. Also, once Morena got it's huge wins in 2018 and became the rising star of power, it immediately filled up with opportunists from all walks and parties, so you started seeing some of their candidates for Congress or mayorships be b-list celebrities, footballers or just anyone with some kind of name recognition, regardless of experience, political fervor or anything else. Some internal shuffling kind of broke its ideological core, and it looks like it's turning into a new PRI because of it. Politics in Mexico are meaningless at the moment, and irrelevant, since the only stances at the moment are pro or anti AMLO. Some states had PRI+PAN+PRD alliances which would be unthinkable 3 years ago. Everything is becoming unraveled, unhinged and radicalized a lot by social media and WhatsApp group texts which is bizarre when there is such a disconnect between political parties and any kind of ideology or politics.
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Maleh-Vor posted:Politics in Mexico are meaningless at the moment, and irrelevant, since the only stances at the moment are pro or anti AMLO. Some states had PRI+PAN+PRD alliances which would be unthinkable 3 years ago. Everything is becoming unraveled, unhinged and radicalized a lot by social media and WhatsApp group texts which is bizarre when there is such a disconnect between political parties and any kind of ideology or politics. Most of that come from 2006-12 when the PRI-AN kept telling everyone that AMLO was going to destroy Mexico, which leads to the present cries of "Venezuela!" of today. As for the shuffling of the programs, one anecdote I want to share is this: some months ago, a mexican animation director, Benito Fernandez, was interviewed by a YouTuber I follow, because he had made some videos about his unreleased dark fantasy movie ""Sabel:Dark Redemption". Benito talked at lenght about how hard is to do animation in Mexico, because it's very hard to get the money, and he talked about how IMCINE did jack and poo poo for the really good projects since forever. He talked about how he had a project for a fantasy movie with native influences and showing a world where the Aztecs had all this cool fantasy/sci-fi gear (like "Atlantis: The Lost Kingdom"). Sounds cool, right? Except that he tried many times, and he couldn't get any money for it. In one instance, his project was rejected because the person in charge wrote in the rejection: "The ancient Aztecs did not have spaceships, investigate more". For a fantasy/sci-fi movie! He noted that other projects did get money, but just because the people in charge knew the directors and producers involved, but many times they were never completed or properly released if completed. He concluded by lamenting that for him, the answer was more transparency, not giving them less money, as it was in the news at that time. For me, transparency is not the whole answer. It would there need to be changes from top to bottom, but good luck doing that when everyone in the other parties just want a chance to say they opposed something AMLO did. Here's the whole interview if anyone want to know more about animation in Mexico: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeOTNmLf-tc
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Kal-L posted:Most of that come from 2006-12 when the PRI-AN kept telling everyone that AMLO was going to destroy Mexico, which leads to the present cries of "Venezuela!" of today. feels like we could have an entire thread about the sorry state of mexican art wrt to tv and movies. besides televisa strangling the life out of anything that doesnt correspond to their mass produced garbage standards, i imagine a big part of the problem is that as soon as any mexican does something even vaguely decent, they get sucked by the hollywood black hole, never to be seen again
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About 10 years ago I used to work at a videogame startup in Monterrey. The team had won a grant that amounted to a pretty decent amount of money. Unfortunately none of that money could be spent paying for rent or salaries, and it was more of a no interest loan, so a few of them moved in together, and we all worked for nothing or next to nothing on very fancy and expensive computers with nice chairs and desks in their living room. We managed to stay afloat with some of us working second jobs every now and then until we had to pay it back, and several of the team pitched in from personal savings to manage to do so, which wasn't easy considering most of us were living with our parents and earning almost nothing. Eventually we met some pretty shady dudes who had won that same grant several times and asked them how you're supposed to survive on that grant and they said we should have fired everyone at the company, kept it as a shell company, made another company where we actually hired everyone, then sold services from the second company to the first shell company which had won the grant. That's Mexico for you.
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babypolis posted:feels like we could have an entire thread about the sorry state of mexican art wrt to tv and movies. besides televisa strangling the life out of anything that doesnt correspond to their mass produced garbage standards, i imagine a big part of the problem is that as soon as any mexican does something even vaguely decent, they get sucked by the hollywood black hole, never to be seen again To be fair, many of them want to be sucked into the Hollywood blackhole. And apart that a huge way to control populations is by the media they consume, there's also the capitalist way of operating that demands that any big project anywhere can be sold to Netflix/Amazon/Hulu/Disney+, so good luck introducing LGBTQ+ themes, putting stuff that puts the US/China in an unfavorable light if only for a moment, don't go "actually, both sides have a good argument", and so on. So it makes it hard to strike that magic balance where you have a TV show/movie that the domestic populace loves, and also adjusts to the current values of the foreign markets. Not to mention that it also has to be able to get enough people to choose it instead of the most recent Fast and Furious movie. But enough of this tangent. I would love to talk more in a dedicated thread for that, if anyone cares to make one.
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https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1403093842996469764 Seeing as the final result is well within .5% does that mean an automatic recount?
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Popy posted:uhhhhh Because they want the US's attention and intervention. It's been a common sight in the far right of Latin America for a while now. babypolis posted:feels like we could have an entire thread about the sorry state of mexican art wrt to tv and movies. besides televisa strangling the life out of anything that doesnt correspond to their mass produced garbage standards, i imagine a big part of the problem is that as soon as any mexican does something even vaguely decent, they get sucked by the hollywood black hole, never to be seen again I was gonna say "have we finally reached the point of the thread where I get to yell about how Televisa and TV Azteca absolutely loving BUTCHERED chilean national treasures like Romané and Amores de Mercado (and Machos i guess but Machos was bougie poo poo from Canal 13 so who cares)" but after checking it seems those adaptations were Telemundo's so I'm gonna focus on a much lesser crime and point out that Televisa's long history of bribes-for-puff-pieces, money laundering and various hilariously corrupt dealings is also pretty bad. still not over their Betty La Fea remake tho, jesus christ that SUCKED
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From what I understand the ELZN also saw a lot of ALMO's infrastructure projects in the Chipas and other southern regions as imperialism and an attempt to try and gently caress with them, though idk how widespread or true that is
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Maleh-Vor posted:. that seems like something from America as well
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https://twitter.com/AndrewDFish/status/1403423226034860035Cup Runneth Over posted:already suspended was something about big law firms in Peru organizing behind Fujimori to challenge the results, maybe it was bullshit or something
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ZearothK posted:A lot of racists in Latin America see themselves as misplaced Yanks or Euros instead of identifying with their own country. los blancos son el diablo
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1403514188085882889 they have castillo's body double in place
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When someone like him talks about investment, they're likely referring to stuff like microloans or subsidies for private business that operate in said countries. For example, from Biden's website: quote:Bolstering microfinance and financial inclusive banking in Central America with a priority on programs that empower women. Remittances from family members sending money home constitutes a larger share of the GDP in some Northern Triangle countries than foreign direct investment, accounting for more than 10 percent of GDP in Guatemala and approaching 20 percent in El Salvador and Honduras. As president, Biden will create mechanisms to help remittance recipients, especially women, invest in and start small businesses.
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Yossarian-22 posted:oas is biden their time Castillo went out of his way to quite fears he would do anything they might consider crazy so they probably just don’t care
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Judge Dredd Scott posted:lol even the OAS isnt covering fujimori's rear end
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I didn't know Jadue was Palestinian https://twitter.com/vijayprashad/status/1403717438517264384?s=20
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Yeah, he's fairly vocal about it, too - he's served as vice-president of the Palestinian Federation (the PLO-aligned advocacy group of the Chilean-Palestinian community) and has been a guest speaker on the I/P conflict in a few talk shows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxuy3nkr1yo
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There's a not insignificant number of Palestinians in Chile, to the point where one of their first division soccer clubs is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Deportivo_Palestino and quote:In January 2014, Palestino was fined the equivalent of $1,300 for using a new team jersey in the club's traditional colors, red, green and black, but with the number one in the squad numbers on the back shaped as the map of Palestine prior to the creation of Israel in 1948. Chilean Jewish groups complained about the political significance of this, with a formal complaint to their national Federation being made by Patrick Kiblisky, owner of first-division club Ñublense. The jerseys were said to have been first used in December 2013, although the club said they were used in the prior season. The federation banned the club from using the map on the back of the shirts and imposed a fine on the club on the grounds that the Federation is opposed to "any form of political, religious, sexual, ethnic, social or racial discrimination". On its Facebook page, the club stated: "For us, free Palestine will always be historical Palestine, nothing less.
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In my city in northern Mexico there's a very big Arab and Palestinian population, mostly wealthy people. There's a huge social club with tennis courts in the wealthiest part of town called the Club Palestino-Libanes built like an Arabian palace that has a delicious and tremendously expensive middle eastern buffet every Sunday. It's been around for over 40 years, which makes sense with the Palestinian exodus to South America after the Six Days War in 1967. It's not uncommon to see signs outside houses offering homemade middle eastern food in upper middle class neighborhoods either. This was also around when my city's population blew up so they're not really considered outsiders or anything. Stereotypes towards them are generally positive (hard working, good businessmen, great food, very conservative), and they've integrated culturally pretty completely. Every person of middle eastern descent I met as a kid was Catholic and was part of a Respected Family. At most you'd hear your parents mention that they were Arabs or that their dad was an Arab but besides that it was pretty much impossible to tell except if you went to their houses, in which case it was pretty common for them to have at least some middle eastern decoration (a lot gaudier and more notable the richer they were, generally).
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Atrocious Joe posted:I didn't know Jadue was Palestinian
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i say swears online posted:that's really interesting. my friend in monterrey told me lots of northeasterners are 'white' and lovely catholics because many of them are jewish immigrants that fled the inquisition, only converting for lip service. i guess that's where al pastor comes from It is. Tacos al pastor come from Lebanese immigrants, again in the 60s. Frankly with how racist Monterrey is I'm pretty surprised people of middle eastern descent are so accepted. There's also a strong Jewish community that has a large traditionally Jewish neighborhood, but since they're not Catholic and therefore part of the monoculture, tend to be othered a lot more. Monterrey is also famous for cabrito, which is baby goat, and comes from Sephardic Jews who settled here fleeing the inquisition.
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Yossarian-22 posted:He's implemented a lot of austerity measures instead of raising taxes to control deficits in the past (although closed some corporate tax loopholes), and was so iffy on lockdowns, masks, and vaccines that Mexico supposedly has more "excess deaths" due to COVID than even Brazil or the U.S. He did some good stuff like increased cash payments/minimum wage/free schooling all the way through university though and cancelled a whole host of his predecessor's privatization drives babypolis posted:Main criticism from the left is his austerity program. he has implemented many good social programs, like cash moneys for student, but since he refuses to increease taxes and any form, most of the money came from shuffling money from others programs around. so for example the healthcare system was pretty badly gutted, which became a big problem once covid hit. covid in general was a disaster for AMLO. due to the aforementioned gutting of the healthcare system, our death rate was trough the roof. I think at one point you had something insane like a 36% chance of dying if you got covid and had to use a public hopsital. basically a loving death sentence. and since austerity was still the name of the game, there was absolutely no economic relief of any kind. i dont think there was a single peso of covid relief given out to anyone. not even like business loans or poo poo like that. as a result most people just went on with their lives as normal, because what the gently caress are you going to do? not work and starve to death? Thanks to both of you, and everyone who commented further down the chain. It seems like the comparisons between AMLO and Sanders were not just sloppy, but just super wrong. I'm getting more and more sense that he's like the opposite of an outsider. The way the big PRD/MORENA split revolved partly around him makes it seem like he's a super long-term insider. Anyway -- why is the north so anti-MORENA? Is it just the same reasons anyone would be unhappy with them, or is there something specific to the north?
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unbutthurtable posted:Thanks to both of you, and everyone who commented further down the chain. Eh...AMLO has been around a while but calling him a "super long-term insider" is a stretch especially considering the entire Mexican institutional establishment is openly opposing him including the Supreme Court which rewrote the election rules so he could he less seats. To be clear, he actually has done some positive things including trying to solve the pipeline issue (remember when people said oil was dead...) and a emphasis on badly needed social spending. He also has seriously hiked the minimum wage. He has been a fiscal conservative, but at the same time he has been also getting some corporations to pay back taxes and it isn't exactly like PRI/PAN/PRD seriously want to reform the system. The north is against him because it is traditional PAN country and it is simply historically to the right (border proximity is probably a factor).
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Maleh-Vor posted:It is. Tacos al pastor come from Lebanese immigrants, again in the 60s. thats interesting, ive never really noticed any discrimination agaisnt jews. and soeaking of immigrant communities, theres also the growing korean and west asian communities as well i say swears online posted:the north has become increasingly bougie since nafta. my most anti-amlo friend is in HR at an auto parts factory in monterrey yeah the north is richer and whiter than the rest of the country. its also mostly arid, so theres a lot of the hard working, independent rancher/cowboy streak mixed in as well babypolis has issued a correction as of 22:22 on Jun 12, 2021 |
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