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Vagabong posted:Infantry level AA in BF4 being ineffective against planes never really felt important because they could never reliably target infantry; any effort you made to attack air in BF4 was more about doing a favour to your team'ss tanks and helis. When the air in BF1 became able to endlessly strafe infantry, especially on some of the more cramped maps, the lack of effective infantry AA became a lot more frustrating. It does start to matter in BF4 when jets are relentlessly destroying your team’s tanks, boats, and helicopters (and you’re on a map with no mobile AA) leaving infantry at the mercy of the enemy’s tanks, boats, and helicopters.
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I was playing some BF4 the other night and on the jungle map with the giant rock in the middle with the caves running through it and the enemy team had two transport chopper pilots that were just constantly running in circles around our team's flags with really solid door gunners and it was a goddamn nightmare.
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Jun 13, 2021 15:55
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What time is the gameplay reveal?
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Jun 13, 2021 16:33
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Skyarb posted:What time is the gameplay reveal? During the Microsoft dealio, starts 10AM PST.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:34
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I wonder if they’ll be like the best gameplay trailers, the videos for Bad Company 2’s multiplayer, or an over-produced, over-narrated, over-scripted, and over-long video. Who am I kidding I’m going to watch that poo poo anyways.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:40
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Yea... That's my concern too... I want to see actual live non-scripted gameplay. If it doesn't work out there's always squad.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:44
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It's an incredibly tiny thing to read from but the couple seconds of gameplay teaser yesterday read more like stuff you'd see with a narration over it, with the dude looking at the Apache and all that. Plus unless I'm misremembering that's kinda their standard now.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:46
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Kibayasu posted:I wonder if they’ll be like the best gameplay trailers, the videos for Bad Company 2’s multiplayer, or an over-produced, over-narrated, over-scripted, and over-long video. Looking forwards to some totally unscripted "real-life" gameplay with the players telling each other about the features in a very organic and natural way. "Dang, there's a sniper! Hey Carey, why don't you use your Demolition Charge Gadget on that pillar to trigger a Levolution Event™ and give us some cover!" 
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Jun 13, 2021 16:47
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BF1 narrated/explanation stuff had the match announcer with the femme British voice so clearly the voice of near-future warfare is a very bored Mickey Rourke.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:50
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Hardline had a big gunplay improvement over 4 imo, and I guess somebody at dice was taking notes.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:57
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Orv posted:BF1 narrated/explanation stuff had the match announcer with the femme British voice so clearly the voice of near-future warfare is a very bored Mickey Rourke. It is the Bethesda/Microsoft conference so they snaked Ron Perlman "Battle, battle never changes"
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Jun 13, 2021 16:59
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Going back to BF4 lately was honestly pretty rough, despite it 'only' being eight years old now, the fidelity of just how shooters feel has come a long, long way. Plus how dudes kinda skate around while sprinting and for some reason the scale kinda feels like it's off, somehow? It's not bad by any means but it's clearly from the before times.jisforjosh posted:It is the Bethesda/Microsoft conference so they snaked Ron Perlman "My... my god, it's another loving Battlefield game."
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Jun 13, 2021 17:00
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Orv posted:BF1 narrated/explanation stuff had the match announcer with the femme British voice so clearly the voice of near-future warfare is a very bored Mickey Rourke. Replace bored Mickey Rourke with Rogue Warrior Mickey Rourke and you have a deal.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:03
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Kibayasu posted:Replace bored Mickey Rourke with Rogue Warrior Mickey Rourke and you have a deal. 
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Jun 13, 2021 17:03
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Orv posted:Going back to BF4 lately was honestly pretty rough, despite it 'only' being eight years old now, the fidelity of just how shooters feel has come a long, long way. Plus how dudes kinda skate around while sprinting and for some reason the scale kinda feels like it's off, somehow? It's not bad by any means but it's clearly from the before times. This is one my biggest complaints with modern games ever since they added stuff like sliding mechanics. I think that's fine but I feel like I'm playing UT2k4 not an actual military-ish shooter.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:05
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I don’t mind sliding as long as it doesn’t devolve into dolphin diving. Same with jumping, it isn’t bad until it gets extreme enough for people to jump around corners like a lot of people do in CoD.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:08
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:This is one my biggest complaints with modern games ever since they added stuff like sliding mechanics. I think that's fine but I feel like I'm playing UT2k4 not an actual military-ish shooter. I meant more that animations and movement in 4 have a certain sorta janky, not quite right fluidity to them but I do agree that while sliding is nice and I'm generally all for increasing movement options and the ability to more rapidly take cover, people being able to spam slides like BF5 feels pretty poo poo. A cooldown (or a longer one if it has one now?) would be nice.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:09
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:This is one my biggest complaints with modern games ever since they added stuff like sliding mechanics. I think that's fine but I feel like I'm playing UT2k4 not an actual military-ish shooter. Nah in BF4 other player's feet seem decoupled from the ground somewhat
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Jun 13, 2021 17:11
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Yeah watching people run around on the death screen looks really funky compared to more modern games. When they sprint and turn it's especially funny cause their top half moves faster than their legs to their new heading.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:13
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“Those cock sucking dick breathed commies have taken sector alpha. Get your motherfucking pansy rear end over there and get it the gently caress back you rear end in a top hat.”
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Kibayasu posted:“Those cock sucking dick breathed commies have taken sector alpha. Get your motherfucking pansy rear end over there and get it the gently caress back you rear end in a top hat.” "Capture sector B 2 you loving amateur, we don't have all day for you to stand around with your goddamn thumb up your loving rear end." Yeah, I'm on board.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:19
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jisforjosh posted:Nah in BF4 other player's feet seem decoupled from the ground somewhat Yea, that is a little odd too but I feel that players move way too quickly in modern FPS games these. It's still a video game but they're taking it to an extreme.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:33
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Crosby B. Alfred posted:Yea, that is a little odd too but I feel that players move way too quickly in modern FPS games these. It's still a video game but they're taking it to an extreme. That's just your ancient bones creaking in the wind.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2IMKCGjg6Q JackFrag's gameplay reveal stream.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:16
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VERY heartening to see jihad jeeping in the gameplay reveal. Tells me their head is in the right place.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:24
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Okay that looked sick I'm in 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WomAGoEh-Ss link to the trailer itself
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That trailer was sick as gently caress
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e: snoiped
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hope all the levels aren't as wide open as that trailer makes them look
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The tornado gimmick is going to get old real quick
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Jun 13, 2021 18:25
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Foehammer007 posted:The tornado gimmick is going to get old real quick
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Jun 13, 2021 18:27
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Love the grappling hook, that's gonna be super fun.
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:hope all the levels aren't as wide open as that trailer makes them look There's a container map that is supposed to be much smaller and infantry focused
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I can't help but get hype as gently caress god drat you dice GOD drat YOU
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Not gonna lie this game seems really exciting. I'll decide sometime early july if I'll pre-order it.
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Yeah I want to try beta but looks much better than 5
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The whole on-the-fly weapon modification looks pretty neat, but I'm not sure how much use you'd realistically get out of it for anything except the optics. I mean, what situation could there be where a player would decide "Boy, I sure wish I could throw away my drum mag and exchange it for a smaller stick mag right now".
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Perestroika posted:The whole on-the-fly weapon modification looks pretty neat, but I'm not sure how much use you'd realistically get out of it for anything except the optics. I mean, what situation could there be where a player would decide "Boy, I sure wish I could throw away my drum mag and exchange it for a smaller stick mag right now". You never know, drum mag could have a weight penalty that affects weapon handling and ADS time
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Perestroika posted:The whole on-the-fly weapon modification looks pretty neat, but I'm not sure how much use you'd realistically get out of it for anything except the optics. I mean, what situation could there be where a player would decide "Boy, I sure wish I could throw away my drum mag and exchange it for a smaller stick mag right now". Smaller Stick Mags will mean greater weapon stability, more accuracy, which is important when you're dealing with more open terrain. Drum mags are for indoor assaults.
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