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Nigmaetcetera posted:If somebody called me comrade unironically I would probably spit in their authoritarian, boot-licking face. I would probably get away with it too since I live in the Midwest. No offense meant, Comrade.
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One of my coworkers always calls people sir or ma'am in her emails. I think it's some sort of fake "respect" thing because while she pointedly uses these supposedly respectful terms in her written communication, she has a well-earned reputation for being snarky and combative with most people in real life work situations.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:46
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If I'm in a store and someone is looking at something and I need to budge past them and it's clear what the situation is, I will say "Excuse/Pardon me, ma'am/sir" and if it's a person whom I cannot tell, whom appears to be doing whatever, is someone I KNOW, is my friend or even my wife, family or even my frigging dogs when we're at home sometimes I will just say "Pardon/excuse me". I've found this terrifying gender degradation the great conflagration of our society and not something I never really considered, simply because I don't bark "YES SIR, NO MA'AM" at every living person regardless of appearance or situation without cause, greatly troubling ever since reading this thread and now, to simplify things I will just no longer address any living thing and retreat further into my goon-hovel. Once asked about "Whether I used sir or ma'am or whether I did not" I realized that this decision was a binary choice, and I felt unfairly discriminated against, as sometimes I chose to, and sometimes I chose not to.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:48
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fart at dudes, belch at gals
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Jun 13, 2021 16:49
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Armitag3 posted:Nice and normal Dude this is Indiana, we have two political orientations, hardcore christian theocratic fascism and dope-smoking libertarianism. Other viewpoints are not appreciated or tolerated. Also I like being called sir, and I have no problem saying sir or ma’am to others, it’s just basic etiquette.
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Jun 13, 2021 16:51
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I strike people all the time. When I strike them I say things like "Piece of poo poo" or "Fucker" I dont care about age or gender either. I will strike anyone. I am at the supermarket and someone is in my way I will strike them i have leaned across shopping carts with my hand to lay my hands on someone else. I am known for this. One time I was at the movie theater and a child got up to pee and pushed past my legs needless to say I looked at the back of his head and got extremely angry so I lashed out at the back of his head with my fist as I said "fucker" in a drawling voice dripping with venom. The child fell face first into the floor with a crack and started to scream and cry needless to say I got out of there so i wouldn't feel the urge to strike his mother who was sure to have hassled me despite me doing the right and moral thing in that situation. I might have had to strike her as well and probably if I did I would have said something like "piece of poo poo" as she fell to the floor because I don't say "sir" or "ma'am"
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Jun 13, 2021 16:59
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Are you doing ok sir
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Jun 13, 2021 17:01
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I strike people all the time. When I strike them I say things like "Piece of poo poo" or "Fucker" I dont care about age or gender either. I will strike anyone. I am at the supermarket and someone is in my way I will strike them i have leaned across shopping carts with my hand to lay my hands on someone else. I am known for this. One time I was at the movie theater and a child got up to pee and pushed past my legs needless to say I looked at the back of his head and got extremely angry so I lashed out at the back of his head with my fist as I said "fucker" in a drawling voice dripping with venom. The child fell face first into the floor with a crack and started to scream and cry needless to say I got out of there so i wouldn't feel the urge to strike his mother who was sure to have hassled me despite me doing the right and moral thing in that situation. I might have had to strike her as well and probably if I did I would have said something like "piece of poo poo" as she fell to the floor because I don't say "sir" or "ma'am"
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Jun 13, 2021 17:02
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I am also very mad at basically meaningless generic terms.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:44
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I don’t have to call you sir, you’re not the boss of me. Further, this antiquated, classist, gender norm enforcing terminology only furthers the *customer wanders away*
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Jun 13, 2021 17:46
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I’ve never called anyone sir or ma’am in my life and I’m not starting now
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Jun 13, 2021 17:54
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The Management posted:I am also very mad at basically meaningless generic terms. I read it as an indication of who has had to make ends meet via customer-facing degrading service industry jobs. Nobody else really gives a poo poo. Also the usually goon mix of ironic hot takes, sincere posts disguised as irony, and accidentally revealed neuroses.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:09
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Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:I strike people all the time. When I strike them I say things like "Piece of poo poo" or "Fucker" I dont care about age or gender either. I will strike anyone. I am at the supermarket and someone is in my way I will strike them i have leaned across shopping carts with my hand to lay my hands on someone else. I am known for this. One time I was at the movie theater and a child got up to pee and pushed past my legs needless to say I looked at the back of his head and got extremely angry so I lashed out at the back of his head with my fist as I said "fucker" in a drawling voice dripping with venom. The child fell face first into the floor with a crack and started to scream and cry needless to say I got out of there so i wouldn't feel the urge to strike his mother who was sure to have hassled me despite me doing the right and moral thing in that situation. I might have had to strike her as well and probably if I did I would have said something like "piece of poo poo" as she fell to the floor because I don't say "sir" or "ma'am" We know sir. This is the bitchslapping line. Will you just slap the bitch so the next customer can be served?
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Jun 13, 2021 18:13
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Nigmaetcetera posted:If somebody called me comrade unironically I would probably spit in their authoritarian, boot-licking face. I would probably get away with it too since I live in the Midwest. You're worse than the person that would call you comrade.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:28
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sigher posted:You're worse than the person that would call you comrade. Nuh uh Sir
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Jun 13, 2021 18:29
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June 4 2021 posted:Its the language of subservience and rear end-kissing. I tell people to please stop if they do it. Mistress usually
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Jun 13, 2021 18:39
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I try to be inclusive and go for sma'ram
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Jun 13, 2021 18:58
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It would be funny if OP told someone to not say sir IRL and they responded “yes, sir!” Lol owned
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Jun 13, 2021 19:00
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I only use these terms when quoting the Homestarrunner: “Dear Sir or Madam, please calm down.”
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Jun 13, 2021 19:06
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largely depends on context and age for me. if they are obviously much older than i am, and we aren't close friends or acquaintances, i'll use sir or ma'am. if i know their name, i'll call them Ms. (name) or Mr. (name)
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Jun 13, 2021 19:15
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Obviously ma’am should be madam And sir should be MadHam
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Jun 13, 2021 19:45
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Alternative: replace both with “you” How can I help you, you?
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Jun 13, 2021 19:45
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There's never a situation where "dude" isn't appropriate.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:01
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I find it most respectful to ignore everyone by turning from them darkly while drawing a clenched fist to my mouth, closing my eyes and whispering 'xer' through clenched lips rather than take that awful leap into any kind of conversation that could possibly be gendered even by mistake and happily apologizing and engaging afterwards.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:03
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I use sir or miss because I'm ex military and everybody else seems to be passive aggressive douchebags and Ma'am apparently only means OLD and BITCH. I also like Dude but apparently that's gendered now and at least online causes people to freak out. Its happened to me and I am still upset about it as I ain't out to do nobody harm. (Why one instance didn't have a someone just politely explain in main chat or pm they felt misgendered and it was upsetting to them is beyond me. I would have gone MY BAD and jobs a goodun. I mean in a Warhammer irc bitd its kind of a safe bet and I grew up in a place where everyone was dude no matter who.) So at least online I go dude(ette) or sir or madam if I'm being doofy. I dunno. But i'm totally using comrade at work. It may make work fun. I'm too uptight anyhow so it may balance the humours a bit. Or cause confusion in the customers at the casino which would also be pretty funny and harmless.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:11
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In all seriousness, the last few places I've worked (here in the Grand Ol' US of A) once on even polite terms, 'dude' is tossed around as gender neutral even from woman to woman. I have a harder time seeing that being heavily coded or whatever, as opposed to 'bro' or 'sir' or something. However I come from both a customer service (a while ago) and technical background so idk how far that carries into other fields. Like, I certainly wouldn't OPEN a conversation with it or do it anywhere it wasn't established, but hearing two women call each other that or a woman or man refer to either or as that in a casual 'yo, <dude> hand me that' context certainly wouldn't be out of bounds or be considered gendered or anything. Then again, if any party had said 'don't do that', it'd have stopped immediately so maybe that's not the best bar to measure by. idk. I guess I don't know why this is so hard to do, I suppose.
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:I'm painfully southern and "pardon me ma'am" or "pardon me sir" is pretty common down here. but if you're saying both, that's weird. As non-binary and genderfluid folks show up down here (we don't exactly have a lot of pronoun changes in my neck of the woods) I expect sirs and maams to fade away bit by bit, but if it's an older cis-appearing person you're likely good to use the visibly assumptive pronoun in this area. I have this same problem as I was raised to say it so I reflexively do it in most situations. But I haven't lived in the South for 15 years so my accent has faded, now people just think I'm extra weird and/or military.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:37
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Ma'am and sir are too much effort a lot of the time. If someone needs you to call them that 90% of your usage can be occupied by the much more efficient yes'm and yes'r.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:40
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I think one thing we can all agree on is that anyone who is not a medical doctor that has a Ph.D from somewhere should never be called "Doctor"
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Jun 13, 2021 20:42
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mi'rm
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Jun 13, 2021 20:43
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Vice President posted:I think one thing we can all agree on is that anyone who is not a medical doctor that has a Ph.D from somewhere should never be called "Doctor" Nah, MDs stole the term. PHDs had it first. Anyone that insists being called Dr. Outside of a professional environment is either excited about finally getting done with school or a colossal wank to be avoided.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:46
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Vice President posted:I think one thing we can all agree on is that anyone who is not a medical doctor that has a Ph.D from somewhere should never be called "Doctor" I think I've told this story before or whatever, but gently caress it. When I was very young, like, 12, maybe 13'ish, I was caddying at a local country club and by luck of the draw got picked to bag for this dude who was a guest of one of the members. And so, I'm hauling his clubs for him and doing normal caddie stuff for the first one or two holes, and we get to the second or third green, what have you. I don't really remember exactly, but I went to hand him either his putter on the green, or his driver headed to the next tee and said "Here you are sir," and in front of the entire group and the rest of the caddies, said, loudly "I didn't go to Medical School for Eight Goddamn Years for YOU to call me SIR. You will call me DOCTOR from here on out." Keep in mind, I'm like, 12 to 13 years old at this point and had met this guy probably less than an hour ago and maybe heard him referred to as "Dr." once during that time. At the end of the round, the other dudes he was playing with apologized to me, a kid, and actually tipped me out FOR him and I made some decent cash.
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Jun 13, 2021 20:49
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Immediately upon meeting someone new I ask them their name and I only mention them from then on by that name
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Jun 13, 2021 20:51
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Sir this is a Wendy's drive through
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Jun 13, 2021 20:58
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Nigmaetcetera posted:If somebody called me comrade unironically I would probably spit in their authoritarian, boot-licking face. I would probably get away with it too since I live in the Midwest. 😆😆😆😆
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Jun 13, 2021 20:59
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"Here you go, Mr. Rhino" "Please! Mr. Rhino is my dad, call me blight *chortle*" e- also work with somewhat of a younger staff, sometimes. I remember my first time being called "Sir". it sucked.
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blight rhino posted:e- also work with somewhat of a younger staff, sometimes. I remember my first time being called "Sir". it sucked. Same. I might try out: How can I help you fellow human? Non-gendered, establishes equality, and if someone is offended it will be because they are convinced they are a horse or a dragon or an anime character in which case offending them is okay. Then aliens show up and it gets crazy all over again. Probably why those UFOs don't make contact. Waiting for us to sort out our titles for speaking to each other to some bare minimum before introducing primitives to a larger world.
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Jun 13, 2021 21:20
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Dear sir or ma'am or whomst it may concern.
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Jun 13, 2021 21:22
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nothin' gets their attention like "hey slapnuts"
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I never said or implied that I was a normal or sane person. In reality, that is outside of the internet, if somebody called me comrade I’d ask them to knock off that absurd performative bullshit. I’d ask them to call me sir instead.
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