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Netflix is pushing the show Manifest on my feed. Is it worth getting in to? Initial promo makes me think of a poor man's Lost...
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According to Deadline Clarice's move to streaming isn't guaranteed as negotiations have stalled between ViacomCBS and coproducer MGM.
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Jun 13, 2021 02:05
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Amazon will steal it for Prime
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Jun 13, 2021 02:18
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Bo Burnham special was really good, Netflix recommended a show called Manifest afterwards. Just rolled with it, but the first lines of dialogue feel like a parody of bad exposition "you might see us and think we're a typical american family [goes on to describe a tv show's idea of what a typical family is]." It has three seasons though, does this get good at some point? I like the basic premise but this pilot pretty wonky. It's not bad enough to be amusing, but not good enough to be engaging either.
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Jun 13, 2021 04:16
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's fun to see every single joke 30 Rock made about the quality of the programming on NBC continues to be 100% accurate like 15 years later. Remember when Jenna had to do a knock off Janis Joplin biopic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZzxvAGRHF0 https://www.vulture.com/2021/06/unofficial-celine-dion-biopic-aline-dieu-trailer.html
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Jun 13, 2021 05:07
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Khanstant posted:Bo Burnham special was really good, Netflix recommended a show called Manifest afterwards. Just rolled with it, but the first lines of dialogue feel like a parody of bad exposition "you might see us and think we're a typical american family [goes on to describe a tv show's idea of what a typical family is]." I have never seen it, but the premise reminds me a lot of the shows that sprung up after Lost went off the air. They were all about stringing the audience along for the big mystery, but forgot the little things like good actors and interesting characters. The fact that Manifest has lasted this long means that either it’s actually good, or that it’s just very cheap to shoot, probably the latter.
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Jun 13, 2021 05:40
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Zero One posted:Remember when Jenna had to do a knock off Janis Joplin biopic? I believe you're referring to Jackie Jorp-Jomp, and it was a triumph.
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Jun 13, 2021 05:58
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I'm watching Mythic Quest and the Dark Quiet Death episode is really good but surprising because it was a departure from what came before it.
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Jun 13, 2021 06:28
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Holy poo poo I thought manifest got cancelled during or right after its first season. It’s still airing?
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Jun 13, 2021 07:04
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I remember it being very forgettable and bad. Three seasons huh.
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Jun 13, 2021 07:15
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Well it's not airing at my house anymore, the first episode after the pilot didn't get any better. It also looks like nobody gives a poo poo about season 4 and nobody knows if they're making a season 4 because nobody cares and even NBC forgot about it. I think the whole show was an accounting errorGaunab posted:I'm watching Mythic Quest and the Dark Quiet Death episode is really good but surprising because it was a departure from what came before it. Those vignette episodes are killer and I hope they got more up their sleeves in the future.
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Jun 13, 2021 17:29
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Khanstant posted:Those vignette episodes are killer and I hope they got more up their sleeves in the future. There are only a couple in the first season, but about half of the second production run of episodes have been various kinds of vignette or bottle episode, presumably because of corona.
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Jun 13, 2021 18:05
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While Mythic Quest isn't always as laugh out loud as IASIP I do enjoy the things they're doing with the characters. I wish it was on Hulu or Netflix or Prime because it's a great show that feels like it's not getting the acknowledgement it deserves because it's on AppleTv. Maybe being there is helping it out though.
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Jun 13, 2021 22:52
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Is FX's Legion worth getting back in to? I watched Season 1 and enjoyed it but I think I recall that the quality jumped all over the place in later episodes.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:00
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Yeah, as long as you are ok with poo poo getting weird. Not being clear on what the gently caress just happened is par for the course.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:11
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Also be aware that the end of season 2 is pretty divisive.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:18
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muscles like this! posted:Also be aware that the end of season 2 is pretty divisive. Yes, but regardless of how you feel about it, its worth pushing through to season 3 and how its adressed.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:24
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muscles like this! posted:Also be aware that the end of season 2 is pretty divisive. I'd say the entire second season is the show getting entirely too high on its own supply. That being said, yeah, the third season was better.
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Jun 14, 2021 02:56
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in my first rewatch of Monk since it was new, i just got to the episode where Monk meets KoЯn. and let me say, : lol
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Jun 14, 2021 03:55
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Hughmoris posted:Is FX's Legion worth getting back in to? I watched Season 1 and enjoyed it but I think I recall that the quality jumped all over the place in later episodes. As you know season 1 was thoroughly mediocre but ended super strong. Then season 2 and 3 turns out to be a classic case of a show buying its own hype poo poo and it sucks. Others found value in season 3, I dunno. The pacing of the story gets even slower in season 2 & 3.
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Jun 14, 2021 05:51
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I'm with MiddleOne, Legion was bad with some cool moments. I like season 3 the most of all the seasons, but it's pretentious without having the skill to back it up. It's also frequently very slow, and the ultimate destinations of a lot of these plots felt pretty laboured. There are also quite a lot of plots that go nowhere, particularly in the show's second season. Does anyone remember Noah Hawley's letter to critics concerning the show's second season? The one that opened with "What is this thing we call TV?", and claimed to have finally solved serialised television plotting? That was a cheque his arse could not cash. It did give us the Bojack Horseman parody version though, for which I am eternally grateful. swickles posted:Yes, but regardless of how you feel about it, its worth pushing through to season 3 and how its adressed. Some of it is addressed, but I reckon they drop the ball.
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Jun 14, 2021 06:05
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Open Source Idiom posted:Does anyone remember Noah Hawley's letter to critics concerning the show's second season? The one that opened with "What is this thing we call TV?", and claimed to have finally solved serialised television plotting? That was a cheque his arse could not cash. According to wikipedia: "All three seasons received universal acclaim for their distinct narrative structure and visual style, as a unique approach to the superhero genre." Was he butthurt over some specific negative reviews or just a pretentious heads up like "hey y'all, I'm bout to do some real capital A Art and you need to brace yourselves."
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Jun 14, 2021 06:52
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The latter. Also season 2 sucks poo poo lmao. 3 is ok but still nothing compared to 1. What a disappointing show Legion turned out to be.
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Jun 14, 2021 06:55
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I want to know what wikipedia's standard is for "universal acclaim." Not even tossing in one qualifier adjective?! Universal acclaim! Either wikipedia, the website that knows more than anyone else, is wrong, or you guys are lying to make the show look bad.
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Jun 14, 2021 06:59
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I recall that Legion's season 2 finale had the same kind of visceral difference in audience reception by gender as Passengers did, and that was definitely one of the big problems in the discourse about it given that online reviewers and comic fans trend to be overwhelmingly male.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:06
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I liked all three seasons but the pacing is super slow. Less of an issue now though.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:16
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Season 2 is where Legion really becomes the show it was meant to be, the first season is good, but a little too scared to get weird.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:19
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Lupin update now part 2 is out: still a lot of fun.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:20
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Oasx posted:Season 2 is where Legion really becomes the show it was meant to be, the first season is good, but a little too scared to get weird. Not sure we watched the same season
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Jun 14, 2021 07:21
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Escobarbarian posted:Not sure we watched the same season We did, we just have different opinions on it 
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Jun 14, 2021 07:29
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pentyne posted:I recall that Legion's season 2 finale had the same kind of visceral difference in audience reception by gender as Passengers did, and that was definitely one of the big problems in the discourse about it given that online reviewers and comic fans trend to be overwhelmingly male. Which was which for Passenger? I hadn't seen and just read the wiki synopsis and this ending almost sounds like a vandal's edit. Living happily ever after with this dude who... I mean I don't even know what to call that kind of crime against someone, but he non-consensually made a permanent terminal decision for a complete stranger because he was lonely horny after a year alone? He picked the prettiest girl like hes swiping on tindr and decided to force her into a dire situation where he's literally the "last man in the world" for her and it works so well he tricks her into staying even after evil deed revealed and made undoable. Just reading the synopsis it sounds like some dude's rapey space fanfic, but you're saying it was actually women audiences who liked the ending? I'm certainly missing something having not seen it, but why would anyone like that ending?
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Jun 14, 2021 07:30
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I think, maybe, the opposite of that?Oasx posted:We did, we just have different opinions on it Just checking, you saw I bolded a specific section, right? The idea that season 1 is somehow afraid to be weird is extremely odd to me given…..well, everything about season 1.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:39
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Khanstant posted:Which was which for Passenger? I hadn't seen and just read the wiki synopsis and this ending almost sounds like a vandal's edit. Living happily ever after with this dude who... I mean I don't even know what to call that kind of crime against someone, but he non-consensually made a permanent terminal decision for a complete stranger because he was lonely horny after a year alone? He picked the prettiest girl like hes swiping on tindr and decided to force her into a dire situation where he's literally the "last man in the world" for her and it works so well he tricks her into staying even after evil deed revealed and made undoable. Just reading the synopsis it sounds like some dude's rapey space fanfic, but you're saying it was actually women audiences who liked the ending? I'm certainly missing something having not seen it, but why would anyone like that ending? Man Passenger was a really weird movie.
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Jun 14, 2021 07:47
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I remember a few guys defending Pratts character's actions with "So you think he should have died alone?" That movie sucks.
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Jun 14, 2021 08:02
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What if a guy condemned someone to needless death because he was horny brave storytellers asked themselves.
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Jun 14, 2021 08:03
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Legion is gonna garner wildly different takes because it is firmly not trying to please everyone, or even a good percentage of viewers. Plots dry up, characters end up being extraneous, there is some offputting thematic poo poo happening there regarding power dynamics and consent, there is an absolute lack of conventional closure and even pacing for its overall meta story. But I personally think it threaded the needle, the distasteful stuff was displayed and not endorsed, and the characters in the show acknowledge as such, and most of all, there is a constant and ever present effort to use every scene to try impart something visually or metaphorically cool as poo poo. That's what makes Legion unique to me, and why I think it does its thing better than any other comic related TV show I've seen as of yet.
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Jun 14, 2021 13:44
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Yeah you can call it pretentious and up its own rear end or whatever, but I wish there were many more shows that just did their own thing like that show did
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Jun 14, 2021 14:08
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edit: ^^^^ lmao I love pretentious, slow stuff, but the problem is that Legion post-s1 is bad at being a pretentious, slow show. I detest the term “up its own rear end” but Legion s2 absolutely feels like Hawley crawling up his own rear end, smelling his own farts, believing his own hype, etc. It’s also the season where Nathaniel Halpern took on a larger producing role, and it’s clear from Tales from the Loop that the dude is…..not so talented.
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Jun 14, 2021 14:11
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I enjoyed all of Legion, but I felt like it stopped being about anything after season 1. Season 1 is very clearly about dealing with mental illness and childhood trauma, and all of the surreal stuff is in service to that theme. Season 2 and 3 didn't feel like they had a coherent theme like that; just a bunch of cool surreal imagery strung together. Also, making a Legion show where Legion does not have multiple personalities is a pretty odd choice. There is some hinting in that direction towards the end of the show, but it never has space to go anywhere.
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I also enjoyed Tales From the Loop so YMMV!
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