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Yami Fenrir posted:The Commander in BF4 didn't have that anyway. You sometimes plonked down supply crates (if so preferred, on snipers, them being enemy ones being optional) or Cruise Missile'd a roof. Yeah so why even have it? All it will do is annoy the players who have to listen to some bozo bark orders and not supply correctly and the ‘commander’ will just experience the heartache and stress of being completely ignored 90% of the time.
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Al-Saqr posted:Yeah so why even have it? All it will do is annoy the players who have to listen to some bozo bark orders and not supply correctly and the ‘commander’ will just experience the heartache and stress of being completely ignored 90% of the time. Because you can squish Snipers with supply crates? 
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Jun 14, 2021 09:17
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Yami Fenrir posted:Because you can squish Snipers with supply crates? I think they’ve now democratized this to everyone with 2042, now everyone can drop an Armata tank on a sniper if they have enough points or whatever.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:18
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Not pre-ordering but looking forward to this. Hope video cards get out of endangered status by the time this comes out
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Jun 14, 2021 09:18
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Yami Fenrir posted:Because you can squish Snipers with supply crates? Seriously, with 128-player maps this game is going to need a "JDAM the poo poo out of that bastard with the Barrett M82" button.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:19
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Also I don't think either side of the Commander coin ever took the whole thing as seriously as Al-Saqr described.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:20
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I played commander mode in BF4 on my ipad while I watched tv. It was great fun.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:28
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If they're picking up one thing from BFV, I wouldn't mind the squad-level call-ins. They already seem to be going that way with the vehicle drops, so it might make sense to extend that to stuff like fire support. No need for a commander, and you still have the option of calling a cruise missile or something on some dumbass sniper.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:29
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Perestroika posted:If they're picking up one thing from BFV, I wouldn't mind the squad-level call-ins. They already seem to be going that way with the vehicle drops, so it might make sense to extend that to stuff like fire support. No need for a commander, and you still have the option of calling a cruise missile or something on some dumbass sniper. I agree with this, but at the same time, I could spend days telling tales of how a squad commander had 70,000-90,000 points to call in such things, but never used them, because an idiot was the squad commander.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:39
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Al-Saqr posted:Yeah so why even have it? All it will do is annoy the players who have to listen to some bozo bark orders and not supply correctly and the ‘commander’ will just experience the heartache and stress of being completely ignored 90% of the time.
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Jun 14, 2021 09:53
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I realise i’m one of only like 10 people on the planet who like using them, but I really appreciate the riot shields being confirmed. ty Dice
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Jun 14, 2021 10:19
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Maybe I'm being a grog but I'm a bit worried about the end of classes. It seems to me that everyone will just gravitate to two or three loadouts that are clearly the most optimal; vehicle play is going to be a pain with everyone carrying RPGs.
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Jun 14, 2021 11:47
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In fairness, it's not exactly confirmed that everybody was carrying RPGs. It may as well just have been a placeholder icon, considering that very nearly everyone in the trailer had them. Fake edit: In fact, I found a bit in the trailer that seems to support the placeholder idea: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-VT5hOciI&t=90s At the timestamp, you're in the point of view of a player with an RPG-icon in his equipment heading into the elevator. Once in the actual elevator, the perspective shifts to the player in the middle of the elevator, looking at the other two. But neither of the two has a rocket launcher on their model, even though in some other scene we've definitely seen characters carry rocket launchers on their back. I may be grasping at straws, tho, since rocket launchers for everyone really would be kinda bad 
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SpartanIvy posted:2142 was great because each class had 2 different primaries to choose from and a handful of gadgets per class. So a sniper had a traditional sniper rifle that wasn't a one hit kill, but you could also spec with a cloaking device that worked super well at distance. So snipers weren't super overpowered but could effectively hang back and move around and take shots at people without instantly being targeted by everyone on the map. Really? I found the AA-launcher to actually secretly be a super good anti-infantry weapon in close range: it one-shot infantry and had two shots. Shame I discovered that only a couple months before I stopped playing. Meanwhile the AA launcher just sucked against air. You were better off using the standard guided launcher against gunships and not by much due to countermeasures in 2142 being an invincible shield bubble. But yeah, snipers were not that big a deal in 2142. You had the 2 faction specific rifles (which were close enough to not really matter) and if you put your unlock points in Recon you could get a "heavy" sniper that had an ugly rear end red scope that made it hard to see just about anything. Though I swear that thing had some sort of aim compensation that just homed on heads whenever I used it. Between that and the draw distance of that era of gaming it wasn't exactly hard to convince a decent amount of players to take the carbine and be a sneaky stealth C4 bastard instead. Though there was one attack/defend map that was notorious for having a balcony full of defending snipers that was always great for running through and collecting 5 dogtags in under a minute. Meanwhile as mentioned the engineer got to chose between the faction-specific guided rocket launcher (they worked the exact same way, just one fired a cluster of 4 missiles that did the same damage). Or you could swap out for the utterly underwhelming AA launcher or the Pilum which was basically the Rocket Rifle from BF1 but you didn't have to be prone to fire it. The Pilum was the correct choice 9/10 times because while the shot was slow it was unguided so the tank or mech you fired it at didn't have a big "INCOMING MISSILE, HIT YOUR BUBBLE!" alarm going off. Also you could fire the thing and then duck into cover because you didn't have to maintain LOS like with the standard launchers. All of the AT weapons were only good for the occasional "And especially gently caress THIS guy!" moments against infantry. Also since the anti-vehicle weapon was considered the "main" weapon in BF2142 that could be swapped out, engis got a sweet-rear end faction-flavored SMG instead of a pistol. Those things would eat the face of anyone else but at the cost of you lacking a sidearm to pull out when your mag was dry. But you know the biggest thing I miss about 2142? Having a squeaky toy for a gun! I swear, in universe every single dog in a 2 kilometer radius would have started howling the moment you opened fire with the Krylov. Not to mention the squeaks when you switched to it and the scope popped up (cutting through where the barrel would have been). Ravenfood posted:E: the Krylov was better than the Voss. I personally preferred the heavy AR, but the Krylov was certainly my favorite SOUNDING gun because it was so ridiculous. Also the Voss just sucked so that's not a hard claim to make.
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Symetrique posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WomAGoEh-Ss link to the trailer itself I'm genuinely excited for the new game  I did not think I would be. The gameplay looks fun as hell. I love chaos-y stuff like that
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Jun 14, 2021 13:04
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The Krylov was the best, I swear that thing had magic bullets. I even have a soft spot for the EU starter gun despite the fact that it kicked like crazy. 80% of the player base used the Voss near the end but if you ever found a high BR player that used the starter guns or the Baur (the high damage kicks like a mule low magazine) gun they were forces to be reckoned with.
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Jun 14, 2021 13:08
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I got psyched after seeing the trailer and booted up BF4 again, and holy crap the people who are still playing that game are mostly a lot better than the people who were playing the game back when it first appeared.
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a foolish pianist posted:I got psyched after seeing the trailer and booted up BF4 again, and holy crap the people who are still playing that game are mostly a lot better than the people who were playing the game back when it first appeared. Yeah watching some of the top plays from BF4 look more like someone speedrunning Doom Eternal and less like Battlefield, it's insane and instantly ages me
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a foolish pianist posted:I got psyched after seeing the trailer and booted up BF4 again, and holy crap the people who are still playing that game are mostly a lot better than the people who were playing the game back when it first appeared. Same, it's still fun but there's such a huge gap that it feels like I'm just straight up lagging and need to get the drop on people hugely to have a fighting chance lol It's like I completely forgot how to aim at helmets
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I got in the transport chopper and was ferrying people around all right, then I heard the missile lock noise and couldn't remember what button deployed the flares. I tried X, which switched seats, and the helicopter fell into the ocean. This was actually much better than the previous lives, where I spawned in, got near an objective, and died to people I never saw.
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Jun 14, 2021 15:12
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Its funny how you hear that a lot, "died to someone I never saw". Thats kinda the point isn't it? My boorish, Rambo like approach leads me into as many senseless, out in the open, man to man encounters as the civil war, but you like to get the drop on someone when you can. Once again I will post this gem from the glory days of the site. Though its written about a much shittier game, basically everything still applies https://www.somethingawful.com/guides/guide-amazing-world/1/
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a foolish pianist posted:I got in the transport chopper and was ferrying people around all right, then I heard the missile lock noise and couldn't remember what button deployed the flares. I tried X, which switched seats, and the helicopter fell into the ocean. In BF4 at least, the X button deploys flares and F1 to F6 change seats by default. Maybe you changed the key bindings?
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FAUXTON posted:Same, it's still fun but there's such a huge gap that it feels like I'm just straight up lagging and need to get the drop on people hugely to have a fighting chance lol Getting back into bf4 would be better with managed servers, for now your going up against players exploiting the busted lag comp and interp on server side so you just get wiped out while mag dumping on one person. Network smoothing is a lie.
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a foolish pianist posted:I got in the transport chopper and was ferrying people around all right, then I heard the missile lock noise and couldn't remember what button deployed the flares. I tried X, which switched seats, and the helicopter fell into the ocean. Are you playing on PS4? I remember X being the Switch seat button and I think it may be Down on the D-Pad for flares
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Womp posted:In BF4 at least, the X button deploys flares and F1 to F6 change seats by default. Maybe you changed the key bindings? Oh, I'm on console. jisforjosh posted:Are you playing on PS4? I remember X being the Switch seat button and I think it may be Down on the D-Pad for flares Yep, this must be it.
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FAUXTON posted:Same, it's still fun but there's such a huge gap that it feels like I'm just straight up lagging and need to get the drop on people hugely to have a fighting chance lol Yeah, I distinctly remember how when I played during release I completely disregarded the various infrared sights. Because why would you give up ADS time just to highlight the people you're about to shoot at anyway? But now, eight years later? I take those things on every gun I can, because otherwise I plain cannot even see an enemy before I get wasted. No idea how I was apparently able to identify that those seven pixels look like a head in a split second before. Though I guess in fairness to myself, BF4 really is kind of bad at making people contrast with the background.
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jackfrags doing what nobody else needs to do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTYL8ZHcHc
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Perestroika posted:Yeah, I distinctly remember how when I played during release I completely disregarded the various infrared sights. Because why would you give up ADS time just to highlight the people you're about to shoot at anyway? BFV and BF1 I can reliably get top 5 on the team and almost always end up with atleast a 3 KDR or more...BF4 though? Struggle to break even
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Gameplay trailer looks amazing. I can’t wait to not play COD anymore.
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RCarr posted:Gameplay trailer looks amazing. I can’t wait to not play COD anymore. Extremely same.. only like 2 (3?) battlepass seasons to go! 
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RCarr posted:Gameplay trailer looks amazing. I can’t wait to not play COD anymore. I like that COD isn’t even trying anymore, with zero presence at E3 while battlefield and halo are getting tons and tons of hype. I think a lot of people will be trying battlefield over cod this year.
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V for Vegans posted:I like that COD isn’t even trying anymore, with zero presence at E3 while battlefield and halo are getting tons and tons of hype. I think a lot of people will be trying battlefield over cod this year. They don't need to try. Warzone pretty much single handedly generated nearly $2 billion of revenue last year
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jisforjosh posted:They don't need to try. Warzone pretty much single handedly generated nearly $2 billion of revenue last year I gotta wonder if that is dropping off because it seems like there are very, very few casual players in there anymore and all the sweatlords will have already bought their Roze skin
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Battlefield 5 burned me really hard on ever giving EA/DICE money again, but I'm also jonesing for a multiplayer shooter. gently caress.
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 but especially for a (near) future one with fun gadgets not a historical, those are just not my thing
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Abner Assington posted:Battlefield 5 burned me really hard on ever giving EA/DICE money again, but I'm also jonesing for a multiplayer shooter. just wait for people's beta impressions then!!
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eonwe posted:just wait for people's beta impressions then!! Buddy the only impression I want is one on my freaking chair from how much of the new Battlefield I'm playing!!!!
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eonwe posted:just wait for people's beta impressions then!!
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Just so what every other goon will do by claiming you won’t preorder and then place an order the week before the exclusive pre-order beta
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