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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Well the good thing is, Square seems to be making sacrificial final fantasy spinoffs to suck all the lovely Nomurageneric stuff away from their prized VII line tfw you realize other people in square involved with ff7 are also psychos
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All I remember from Crisis Core was Angeal, the guy who had a wing like an Angel (That's why his name was Angeal), who was Sephiroth before Sephiroth was sephiroth And Genesis, the guy that is literally a copy pasted J-rock celebrity put into the game and he walked around quoting a book of poetry because it was a JRPG in 2007
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Jun 14, 2021 18:59
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All I remember from Crisis Core was the god awful dice mechanic
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:All I remember from Crisis Core was Angeal, the guy who had a wing like an Angel (That's why his name was Angeal), who was Sephiroth before Sephiroth was sephiroth It was Loveless, the play from the sign in Midgar (and I think Cid mentions that he fell asleep watching it). Which I guess was retroactively turned into bad Shakespeare in Crisis Core.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:06
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I remember squats mostly.
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Clarste posted:I don't remember them from Crisis Core at least? From the wiki: "In Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII-, Nero and Weiss are released and sent to retrieve Genesis Rhapsodos after he loses to Zack Fair. Nero and Weiss take Genesis's body away in a helicopter under secret orders from President Shinra. They inform Genesis of the Deepground situation and ask him to join them in an upcoming rebellion against the Restrictors, but Genesis refuses" So I'm guessing they aren't antagonists. Wow I don't remember anything about this game (except for the poetry-rewding Kpop guy)
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Jun 14, 2021 19:21
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nero and weiss only have a short cameo at the very end of Crisis Core and their faces are hidden by the camera, they're mainly Dirge of Cerberus characters
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Jun 14, 2021 19:28
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Every Final Fantasy: Disestablishmentarianism 420/69 spinoff title is only delaying FFVII Revangelion, not drawing away the crazy.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:31
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I may finally try to play through DoC after this. I suppose that constitutes a victory for S-E, drat them. Don't think I'm gonna try hard mode or the VR fights though. And gently caress boxes. I'll sooner replay the full game at dat sweet 60 fps.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:44
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DoC sucks as a game but has some really good FMVs and great music. I was happy to hear Nero's and Weiss' themes in the DLC, even though I already expected that because it's the same composer. Apparently DoC had online multiplayer in Japan? Overseas we got some really bad VR missions made from repurposed assets from that mode.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:57
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Watch an LP or something, Dirge of Cerberus actively hates the player. I've mentally blocked most of my playthrough and replaced it with more Crisis Core.
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Jun 14, 2021 19:58
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I really enjoyed Max Dood's playthrough of Dirge he forced himself through before ff7r released It was like watching someone punch themselves in the balls over and over again for hours
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Jun 14, 2021 20:18
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I went to buy dirge on release. Took it up to the counter at GameStop, and the lad working there actually un sold me on it by talking how poo poo it was. When even GameStop is unselling your game maybe you hosed up big time
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Jun 14, 2021 20:20
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Man I really need to sit down and play the DLC. I dunno what I'm waiting for. I have a PS5 and I've been continuing my Hard mode save instead of loading it up It's very good. You really should.
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Jun 14, 2021 20:42
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Any good tracks in Dirge? Gackt's song Redemption is actually pretty enjoyable for me but the rest never made much of an impression. I wasn't sure if anything in Intergrade was referencing DoC directly, but saw a lot of people comparing Nero's piano heavy track to Yoko Shimomura's work (Kingdom Hearts, Parasite Eve).
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Jun 14, 2021 20:43
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What was so bad about Dirge? I played through it over a decade ago and remember almost nothing except that you could...level up bullets? Or something? Also Hojo was annoying as poo poo.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:00
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I just remember TDI's Let's Play where he slowly lost his mind over the course of the whole thing.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:04
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VagueRant posted:Every Final Fantasy: Disestablishmentarianism 420/69 spinoff title is only delaying FFVII Revangelion, not drawing away the crazy. Nothing is being delayed by Final Fantasy spin-offs because the team working on FF7R aren't working on those other games.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:04
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Morpheus posted:What was so bad about Dirge? I played through it over a decade ago and remember almost nothing except that you could...level up bullets? Or something? Also Hojo was annoying as poo poo. Far as I know, the development team had like 4% understanding how to make a third-person shooter so it was miserable to control. Never played it myself so I don't know for sure.
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Morpheus posted:What was so bad about Dirge? I played through it over a decade ago and remember almost nothing except that you could...level up bullets? Or something? Also Hojo was annoying as poo poo. iirc it was a 3rd person gun action game, because those were popular at the time, but Square did not know how to design those and did not want to learn. I have heard it described as akin to loading and accurately firing a crossbow with your feet, wish shoes on
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Jun 14, 2021 21:20
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I passed on DoC cause it controlled like pure rear end. Let's face it the DS2 sticks were not that great for accurate aiming, notice the huge auto-assist reticle. What I didn't know at the time is that the game does support keyboard and mouse, so if I played it today that's what I would use. It also suffered from that wacky rear end PS2 era blur filter to hide performance issues.
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Jun 14, 2021 21:28
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ghostinmyshell posted:I passed on DoC cause it controlled like pure rear end. Let's face it the DS2 sticks were not that great for accurate aiming, notice the huge auto-assist reticle. What I didn't know at the time is that the game does support keyboard and mouse, so if I played it today that's what I would use. It also suffered from that wacky rear end PS2 era blur filter to hide performance issues. There's probably the bones of a decent game laying in there somewhere that modders could drag out if they cared to
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Jun 14, 2021 22:07
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VagueRant posted:Any good tracks in Dirge? Man as much as hate Dirge... I really love that Redemption track by Gackto-san
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Jun 14, 2021 22:12
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Morpheus posted:What was so bad about Dirge? I played through it over a decade ago and remember almost nothing except that you could...level up bullets? Or something? Also Hojo was annoying as poo poo. You know how (spoiler'd just in case for the people who only played Remake and have no idea about this future plot beat) Vincent was pining for Sephiroth's mom right before she banged Hojo? Well what if Lucrecia was secretly the one who killed Vincent's dad, as well as shoving a dangerous Materia in Vincent's chest that's the key to summoning the planet's Other Other Weapon? Oh, and one of the Deepground bosses is this cyber-hacker named Shelke the Orange who, due to the Mako treatments and experiments, is a 19-year old girl that permanently looks like a 10-year old and wearing a form-fitting bodysuit. At some point, she downloads Lucrecia's research/memories and kind of receives some of Lucrecia's emotions, so uhhhhhh, guess who's Vincent's emotional connection in this game!
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Jun 14, 2021 22:16
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I almost forgot about Vincent's loli girlfriend Or blank'd it out
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ghostinmyshell posted:I passed on DoC cause it controlled like pure rear end. Let's face it the DS2 sticks were not that great for accurate aiming, notice the huge auto-assist reticle. What I didn't know at the time is that the game does support keyboard and mouse, so if I played it today that's what I would use. I mean none of that really matters because your bullets could literally pass through enemies and if you weren't locked on they didn't count
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Jun 14, 2021 22:57
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Are there any good VLPs of Dirge? It's been ages since I've thought about, and I refuse to put in the effort that would be involved in actually playing it.
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Moola posted:I almost forgot about Vincent's loli girlfriend No one should be forced to remember Orange the Transparent.
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Jun 14, 2021 23:09
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God, gently caress, this new Intermission whack a box is brutal. Any advice? I don't even know if i've found 50k points worth of boxes in here. I'm using throw/retrieve and deadly dodge to clear small crates and art of war for the big ones (and banishment 3 for the room of big ones) but it's not enough. It's never enough. The boxes cannot be whacked.
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Jun 14, 2021 23:16
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The throw / windstorm combo will leave the 1500 boxes down to 1 hit and have a decent radius. That’s what you want to be using.
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Truly will never get over the fact there was a video game sequel to FFVII nine years after its release with a cliffhanger secret ending and not a single person ever gave a poo poo about what happened next.CottonWolf posted:Are there any good VLPs of Dirge? It's been ages since I've thought about, and I refuse to put in the effort that would be involved in actually playing it. Moola posted:I almost forgot about Vincent's loli girlfriend Moola posted:Man as much as hate Dirge... I really love that Redemption track by Gackto-san https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXp0v93ZRTs&t=85s Blockhouse posted:Nothing is being delayed by Final Fantasy spin-offs because the team working on FF7R aren't working on those other games.
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:No one should be forced to remember Orange the Transparent. She was included in World of Final Fantasy so clearly somebody likes her. I wouldn't be surprised if she's included in later FFVIIR based on this fact alone. Speaking of which VagueRant posted:Any good tracks in Dirge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06EXCf5zXUk And I actually preferred Longing to Redemption https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qz0t7pPS3A
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Jun 14, 2021 23:32
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AZUL THE CERULEAN
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The REAL Goobusters posted:All I remember from Crisis Core was the god awful dice mechanic You remember less than you think, because it was Slots, not Dice  Also, I have a soft spot for Dirge because it came out when I was the exact Edgy Teenager that it was targeted towards, and games will never feel the same as they did back then, so replaying it takes me back to that time in a futile attempt to recapture my relative teenage happiness. Game is total rear end though.
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VagueRant posted:I'm not saying anything is certain, but the same could've been said for the first 3 years of VIIR's development and look how that worked out. FF7R's development troubles are because cyberconnect2 was working on it, not turning in work up to what S-E wanted (the most that's ever been said why that happened is "it's a sensitive topic"), and then the game was basically started over in-house only keeping some of CC2's assets. It's not like "oh it was delayed because Nomura was working on KH3" or whatever has ever been shown to be a thing - the director duties on FF7R were pretty spread around.
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I think we all saw that coming too when Cyberconnect2 was announced as the main developer for it.
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Fedule posted:God, gently caress, this new Intermission whack a box is brutal. Any advice? I don't even know if i've found 50k points worth of boxes in here. I'm using throw/retrieve and deadly dodge to clear small crates and art of war for the big ones (and banishment 3 for the room of big ones) but it's not enough. It's never enough. The boxes cannot be whacked. Don't use art of war. Throw the shuriken at the large boxes. While it's spinning, use ninjursu to destroy any purple boxes that are in the immediate vicinity. Then use windstorm. Using windstorm while your shuriken is out while do a focused wind attack centered on the shuriken that does a ton of damage (seriously, it is awesome on bosses) that will destroy the large box and any nearby, or at least damage them to within a hit or two of destruction. It's also faster than art of war. You can actually clear out that last room full of them if you put the shuriken in the right place.
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Jun 14, 2021 23:52
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Use banishment in the last room. It insta destroys all the 1500 boxes there
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Mother fucker. I got 50,000 exactly. The Windstorm tip was gold. It's odd that this doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere in the game, it's obvious it does a different attack in each mode but not exactly what those differences are.
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VagueRant posted:Truly will never get over the fact there was a video game sequel to FFVII nine years after its release with a cliffhanger secret ending and not a single person ever gave a poo poo about what happened next. Secretly hoping the whole Arbiters thing turns out to be the planet getting sick of all the events after FF7's ending and trying to prevent any more retcons from happening. Omega is only the straw that broke the camel's back.
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