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DaveKap posted:Oh my GOD I had the same exact problem and when I began questioning it I was like "...but wait... why do I accept everything else going on?!" and just shrugged it off. That show is wild as gently caress and I can't wait for more. oh yeah totally not the craziest thing that show does but it was just so startling that during this insane arc of the show he suddenly gets powered up like a power rangers enemy. may as well shot sparks out when his decapitates robot head that keeps him alive gets thrown off a cliff
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DogsInSpace! posted:I know from a bit ago but I loved Legion. One of my favourite series but it has flaws that I am fairly sure are 100% Noah Hawley. It can be a bit pretentious, up its own rear end and also tends to wander off like it got a bit too high and had the munchies. All that said: if you enjoyed season 1 you should like season 2 and 3. Season 2 had a couple of character arcs that went to an uncomfortable place ( it makes it hard to keep rooting for the main characters) BUT season 3 had a really good ending to the entire show. Not for everyone but definitely worth a watch. Farouk is the protagonist. Change my mind.
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VagueRant posted:Why does no one talk about Black Sails? I feel like it was talked about here fairly often when it aired, but I don't think I've seen it get mentioned since it ended.
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DogsInSpace! posted:I know from a bit ago but I loved Legion. One of my favourite series but it has flaws that I am fairly sure are 100% Noah Hawley. It can be a bit pretentious, up its own rear end and also tends to wander off like it got a bit too high and had the munchies. All that said: if you enjoyed season 1 you should like season 2 and 3. Season 2 had a couple of character arcs that went to an uncomfortable place ( it makes it hard to keep rooting for the main characters) BUT season 3 had a really good ending to the entire show. Not for everyone but definitely worth a watch. Hawley's done enough good that idk, willing to attribute the successes to him too. It's a weird as hell show, but shoots for the moon, and even though it has a bunch of misses, you can't help but admire the rockets that land. Cause gently caress, when they hit, they hit the spot. It feels like this generations The Prisoner in a lot of ways - brilliant design, characters, kind of crash lands. I've come to really admire shows that manage to not fall apart – your Deadwood's, Breaking Bad, Avatar, etc. Not worth not holding every show to that standard, and plenty to love of the Legions out there. That said, still funny how Game of Thrones faceplanted so hard that it retroactively made it hard to even revisit the good ol' days. CatstropheWaitress fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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The World Inferno posted:That said, still funny how Game of Thrones faceplanted so hard that it retroactively made it hard to even revisit the good ol' days. 
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Farouk is the protagonist. Change my mind.
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The World Inferno posted:
I have never seen a show go from omnipresent to memory holed so hard or so fast, it was nearly impressive.
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And because of that I have absolutely zero interest in any new GoT series.
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If Benioff and Weiss have nothing to do with it I'll give the first season a shot.
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VagueRant posted:Why does no one talk about Black Sails? One of those shows that got continually better. I'm not sure if it would have made a difference with it's popularity (as Inspector 34 said, it's Starz after all) but Season 1 being set so much on the island, with very little swashbuckling probably hurt the show a bit CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Season 1 bored me so I didn't go back.
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Black Sails definitely had some really impressive effects. It was a nice mix of cool effects, violence, and nudity.
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Rewatching Letterkenny and oh man hicks and Indians v. Nazis is the greatest poo poo ever.
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VagueRant posted:Why does no one talk about Black Sails? It had some fun characters, but ultimately it was a pirate show that didn’t have the budget to do much pirating. Maybe it changed in later seasons, but I just remember the show being mostly about pirate politics and British politics.
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DaveKap posted:Protagonists don't enslave, rape, and murder innocent people. The only real protagonist on that show was literally no one. Surely moral action defines a hero more than a protagonist? Not that I have a horse in this race -- I find the whole "the real protagonist is X" discourse to be often be very reaching. Definitionally, the protagonist is the leading character, and the lead in Legion is David. QED.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Surely moral action defines a hero more than a protagonist? Yeah people can have their debates about who is or is not the "hero" of Legion, but David is pretty clearly the protagonist. He's our POV character, the journey being charted is predominantly his, and his backstory is the one being explored in the greatest depth. You could maybe make an argument for Syd as the "true protagonist," but Farouk (amazing as he is) makes very little sense in that role.
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VagueRant posted:Why does no one talk about Black Sails? It was a great show! My wife and I caught it just as the final season was ending, and have already rewatched it twice! Great characters, a fun story with just enough history to make it feel smart, and Bear McCreary elevates every show he is involved with: the score is amazing! Black Sails and The Tudors are two of my favorite (completed) period shows! Campy enough to be fun and enjoyable, but accurate enough to steal history's actual drama. Very excited for the next season of The Last Kingdom, which also hits this stride, for me! Cojawfee posted:Black Sails definitely had some really impressive effects. It was a nice mix of cool effects, violence, and nudity. Ironically, after GoT, even the gratuitous nudity in Black Sails seems tasteful and reserved. Like, "ah yes, there is a single exposed breast in this scene...how artistic!"  Ugly In The Morning posted:I have never seen a show go from omnipresent to memory holed so hard or so fast, it was nearly impressive. The only thing D&D have really done since then is a cameo in Westworld. They so badly wanted to end GoT and move on to the projects they actually wanted to do that they blew up their careers and all of those other projects. 
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The World Inferno posted:Hawley's done enough good that idk, willing to attribute the successes to him too. It's a weird as hell show, but shoots for the moon, and even though it has a bunch of misses, you can't help but admire the rockets that land. Cause gently caress, when they hit, they hit the spot. It feels like this generations The Prisoner in a lot of ways - brilliant design, characters, kind of crash lands. I like Hawley too and will forever give him a shot for Legion and Fargo seasons 1-3 as I hold those as some of my favourite of all times shows. Season 4 of Fargo should have been as good but it whiffed and somehow left me more disappointed than usual with a bad show. Agreed on the GoT. I don’t know ANYONE who talks about it favourably or reminiscences about watching it. Most of the comments ive heard about GoT in general are the comments on here. Even Dexter has more anticipation about rewatches and sequels, even if it is 90% traincrash hopefuls and Chicky Hines memes. Absolute pinnacle of being memory holed.
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muscles like this! posted:Seeing that is the movie people I don't know how far back it can go as a prequel. There can always be one flashback scene of tiny Gaston with some child actor, as he vows to never be that weak again. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I can't say that I have ever wondered about Gaston and LeFou. Also iirc the enchantress cursed him because he was a full on aristocratic dick to her. Or rejected her advances. I can't remember. lol Disney. In the cartoon the Beast had to find love before he turned 18. It has also been years since the curse happened. This means the enchantress cursed a tween (and his servants) for not letting a stranger in his house.
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Zero One posted:This means the enchantress cursed a tween (and his servants) for not letting a stranger in his house. Prithee pardon, but mayhaps this historical period had different attitudes regarding the divine rights to hospitality?
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Farouk is the protagonist. Change my mind. Still feel super bad about the sister. Never really any sort of closure for that
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Zero One posted:In the cartoon the Beast had to find love before he turned 18. It has also been years since the curse happened. An actual underage boy trapped in an old demon's body? The reverse anime.
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Arent witches and curses just barely veiled metaphors for the uncaring travails of life like how Greeks did with the Gods
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We have science and poo poo now so we know the reasons that things happen but imagine living in the olden days and having no idea wtf lightning was or why it happened or why it accompanied thunder or any of that stuff. It certainly seems supernatural. It's a shame there are almost no written records among pre-contact North American indigenous persons, I'd like to know what some of the high plains tribes thought when they saw an F5 tornado or something.
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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:The only thing D&D have really done since then is a cameo in Westworld. They so badly wanted to end GoT and move on to the projects they actually wanted to do that they blew up their careers and all of those other projects. There a specific term for this? A lot of successful people tend to think since they're really good at X, they will be good at Y and move on and generally fail hard. Some realize they were only ever supposed to do X for their entire lives and return, and the rest just get angry/confused/lost and continue to fail. See: Musicians, Game Devs, Traditional Artists, Politicians.
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zoux posted:It's a shame there are almost no written records among pre-contact North American indigenous persons, I'd like to know what some of the high plains tribes thought when they saw an F5 tornado or something. Saw an AskHistorians post on this a while back. It's not pre-contact, but it's as close as you're going to get. e: If I were to guess beyond that, though, I'd think that many peoples would assume extreme weather was just another natural phenomenon, not something more or less supernatural than a storm or a sunny day. I'd imagine religious significance would be equally applied to everything, not just the bad. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Jun 16, 2021 |
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feedmyleg posted:Saw an AskHistorians post on this a while back. It's not pre-contact, but it's as close as you're going to get. This is cool
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Philthy posted:There a specific term for this? A lot of successful people tend to think since they're really good at X, they will be good at Y and move on and generally fail hard. Some realize they were only ever supposed to do X for their entire lives and return, and the rest just get angry/confused/lost and continue to fail. See: Musicians, Game Devs, Traditional Artists, Politicians. Hubris?
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muscles like this! posted:No one does prequels like Gaston. Disney Plus Beauty and the Beast series with Luke Evans and Josh Gad reprising their roles from live action remake. while waiting on an oil change I was watching the TV in the lounge and there was a news ticker at the bottom every 3 or 4 minutes it went through the same headlines. one of them was just this, with no extra information: NBC CANCELS DRAMA AFTER THREE SEASONS hahaha
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muscles like this! posted:No one does prequels like Gaston. Disney Plus Beauty and the Beast series with Luke Evans and Josh Gad reprising their roles from live action remake. I wonder if this is some kind of test balloon to see the metrics for Netflix to pick it up as their own series.
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Simone Magus posted:while waiting on an oil change I was watching the TV in the lounge and there was a news ticker at the bottom That drama was Manifest.
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zoux posted:That drama was Manifest. oh i know, i'm just saying, whoever wrote that ticker was having a laugh NBC cancels all their poo poo after the inexplicable third season (didn't Revolution make it to S3?)
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Oh lol, I just started watching that on netflix because it showed it to me. Does season 2 have any kind of closure? Or is it some big thing happening that will never be resolved and will piss me off since it is canceled?
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Trying to watch Enlightened and my god is the HBO Max app the buggiest streaming platform I've ever used. It's getting to the point that it's actually making me disinterested in watching more eps
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Cojawfee posted:Oh lol, I just started watching that on netflix because it showed it to me. Does season 2 have any kind of closure? Or is it some big thing happening that will never be resolved and will piss me off since it is canceled? Season 3 reportedly ends on a big cliffhanger.
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Shageletic posted:Trying to watch Enlightened and my god is the HBO Max app the buggiest streaming platform I've ever used. It's getting to the point that it's actually making me disinterested in watching more eps I keep seeing people say this, but I have only ever used it through the website, so I have never had an issue...
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Everyone should watch Enlightened. Mike White actually has a new HBO show coming in less than a month, which I’m very excited for. It’s called The White Lotus, is about a tropical resort, and has Connie Britton!
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Shageletic posted:Still feel super bad about the sister. Never really any sort of closure for that Can't argue with that. Still, speaking only for show Farouk, he's less a super villain than a a dude constantly hosed with for existing outside Eurocentric mutant society. Dude was living pretty low-key for a villain/god-king/immortal parasite in the forties and showed no appetite for conquest outside his little slice of Morocco. But that didn't stop white savior mutants like Xavier rolling up to fight him. He only jumped to David because he was murdered and even then he wasn't locking him away and living the high life. His methods weren't ideal but we have no idea how much, if any of David's mental illness is an organic side effect of his powers. We're told that the the reason Farouk hasn't taken over David entirely is that he was too weak, and coincidentally only powered up enough to do so when the plot kicked in, but that's not really supported by the later reveal that Farouk could have gone back to his body whenever. One could argue that he was being noble by tying himself to the live nuke mutant that could end existence while David was young and lacked the maturity to control his powers. He certainly didn't exercise his full ability to control David until Summerland showed up to poke the nuke. Also, while Farouk does poo poo as a means to an end, David does several things that are way loving crueler than simple murder. Mind-wiping Syd and Clake's husband for example. Anyway, just a small fries and a drink please. I'll pull forward.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:Can't argue with that. Still, speaking only for show Farouk, he's less a super villain than a a dude constantly hosed with for existing outside Eurocentric mutant society. Dude was living pretty low-key for a villain/god-king/immortal parasite in the forties and showed no appetite for conquest outside his little slice of Morocco. But that didn't stop white savior mutants like Xavier rolling up to fight him. He only jumped to David because he was murdered and even then he wasn't locking him away and living the high life. His methods weren't ideal but we have no idea how much, if any of David's mental illness is an organic side effect of his powers. I always thought this argument was meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Yes, the colonialism is undeniable, but Farouk was a supervillainous rapist murderer. One with a self justifying narrative about honour and dignity and sovereignty and blah blah blah, but lol at him making the claim for fairness and justice.
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