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gonna need a smarter contract
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never forget that the example smart contract that was in the wiki involved checking a now defunct google news feed so even if the condition ever came true the money would have been irreparably lost
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Also always remember getting a random seed from random.org which was "somehow" always 302...
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you can't prove it isn't perfectly random
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301. unless there were multiple instances it's notable because the wallet app was always using http(!) to get the random seed. when random.org started requiring https all requests over http started getting a 301 to redirect them it's one of those crypto things where you look at it and it looks like a fuckup and then you look more closely and it's like five layers of nested recursive fuckups
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wasn't there another site that some bitcoin service was using without permission, so that site just changed the page to say "penis"?
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i think it had something to do with getting the time or date
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the web page that just says penis thing was the exit scam by a "company" called prodeum, back during the ico craze
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january 28 2018 nevar forget
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yeah...i think what i was thinking of was a mining pool using some site to get their time and the page was changed to "gently caress off" or something like that
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You will only be left wondering why they didn’t include more detailed instructions like “don’t lick the hammer” or “you can’t get high drying the miner's strawberries.”
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 once all the coins have been allocated to wallets, is there any point in continuing w/ a proof-of-anything model?at that point what is lost by automatically adding every distinct signed transaction to the ledger without the number-guessing?
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cool av posted:
competition for fees was supposed to incentivize the miners "securing the network"
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the main purpose of proof of work is just to make it expensive to send out bogus blocks. otherwise bad actors could just do whatever 51% attack stuff for free, like broadcasting empty blocks with 0 transactions to clog up the network and stop poo poo from going through, or mining ahead in secret and then releasing their longer chain to cause a fork and rollback the transactions from the shorter one the block reward is just a secondary result of that primary purpose, from satoshi thinking "how do i convince goldbug libertarian rational actors to pointlessly waste electricity for the good of the network". and even once it hits zero it's supposed to be replaced with transaction fees. adding all the transactions to a database without number guessing is a great solution though as long as it doesn't touch any cryptocurrency
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https://twitter.com/CryptO_Gamers/status/1405631263570993154?s=20 Lol. 12 digits, a 3 digit code, and a date is sooooo difficult, like a caveman, even though most payment processors and data managers let you store card info for instant input.
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"hi could u pls prop up my shitcoin, I have invested a lot into this thx"
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Crain posted:https://twitter.com/CryptO_Gamers/status/1405631263570993154?s=20 Even your browser will if you let it.
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is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"?
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"? Oh, the journey of learning you are about to experience...
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"? my sweet summer child
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"? yes, bitcoin cash has the word "cash" in the name for instance. you should go read about all the incredible drama that surrounded the schism that formed bitcoin cash. idk where you'd find a good summary other than maybe divabot's site, but it was incredible watching it unfold in real time via the thread
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"? here is everything you possibly need to know about bcash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI
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For some reason the site in question did a poll on if it should accept Bitcoin Cash. https://twitter.com/MyMiniFactory/status/1405849693515653125?s=20 It didn't go well for our Crypto Gamer. (75 % against if you don't click through the link to vote)
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I embrace new tech and passionately kiss it on the lips.
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Crain posted:For some reason the site in question did a poll on if it should accept Bitcoin Cash. hell, that probably got voted down by bitcoiners because they specifically mentioned bcash
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I’m surprised a 3D printing site didn’t already have crypto payment, I feel like there’s a lot of overlap between crypto guys and maker types
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Crain posted:(75 % against if you don't click through the link to vote) Everyone here is obligated to vote no.
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"? bch is a fork of btc with larger block sizes so they can process more than 7 transactions a second. the proponents of it get very very mad with you call it the wrong thing and it's basically just another shitcoin. if you had any btc before the fork, you have both btc and bch.
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njsykora posted:I’m surprised a 3D printing site didn’t already have crypto payment, I feel like there’s a lot of overlap between crypto guys and maker types there are actually use cases for small-batch 3D printing services (prototypes, one-off hobby projects, patterns for metal casting etc.)
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also, for added drama, the bitcoin cash devs decided they wanted a share of the miner pie, which resulted in bitcoin cash itself forking, with the dev friendly fork being "bitcoin cash abc" and the one that stayed with the original miner rewards being "bitcoin cash node". no points for guessing which of the forks are worth more this is completely unrelated to "bitcoin satoshi's vision", which is a fork made by an australian scammer that claims he is satoshi, but also owes billions of dollars in a lawsuit because he claims he is satoshi
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Muscle Tracer posted:is "bitcoin cash" somehow different from "bitcoin"?
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:the main purpose of proof of work is just to make it expensive to send out bogus blocks. otherwise bad actors could just do whatever 51% attack stuff for free, like broadcasting empty blocks with 0 transactions to clog up the network and stop poo poo from going through, or mining ahead in secret and then releasing their longer chain to cause a fork and rollback the transactions from the shorter one i guess i was thinking there doesn't have to be a "chain" that can "fork" if every valid transaction is valid. there's just a set of valid transactions. but then you still need it to be artificially expensive to set up a server that hosts the set of transactions, otherwise there's too much risk that malicious hosts could outnumber honest ones. you win this round, satoshi.
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remember none of this is necessary if you grant even a single iota of trust to a party who can decide what is or is not a valid transaction to record. this is necessary because you're assuming everyone's potentially a bad actor and only by making it expensive and highly distributed that when "enough" people say something is a thing, that becomes the truth.
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