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Agents of Loki and their adventures in the multiverse is one possibility.
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I imagine they can keep using this show as a way to either close plot holes or reset timelines (bring back dead characters) in between movies whenever they want. Season 1 can introduce the multiverse and bring back Loki. Season 2 can wait until they have need of some more timeline fuckery.
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Jun 22, 2021 14:02
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Yeah I know it's a business to most but I love when an actor just embraces the role and plays it everywhere and anywhere Like Mark Hamill with the Joker. He’s even the voice on a theme park ride line distraction thing because he heard that some rando was doing it and he was like “No! I am the Joker!”
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Jun 22, 2021 14:20
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The_Doctor posted:Speak for yourself. Well actually, my guess is that the TVA ties into the overall phase 4 throughline. They'll definitely tie into Multiverse of Madness and Quantumania and I would not be the least bit surprised if Fantastic 4 ends up being this phase's Avengers movie in the sense that it's the huge fireworks show that ties up 4 and sets up phase 5.
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Jun 22, 2021 14:32
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I’m reasoning that the opening up of the multiverse is what causes the next show What If…? To happen.
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Jun 22, 2021 14:41
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The_Doctor posted:I’m reasoning that the opening up of the multiverse is what causes the next show What If…? To happen. Yeah, I've been wondering if there'll be a narrative lead into the existence and structure of the show too. The Watchers are the thing that kind of catch me, since Uatu will be the show's narrator, but he's not part of the TVA and either pre-exists it or is an entirely new entity as part of the multiverse and has just been watching the one timeline all along. Maybe he'll be showing Loki the various stories? The show should at least expand the cosmic pantheon a little by establishing the Watchers alongside the TVA as almost all-powerful beings. tsob fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Jun 22, 2021 14:58
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Is What If...? connected to the MCU? I thought it was explicitly supposed to be standalone and the Watcher was narrating a series of fictional stories.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:01
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The title is misleading if these stories actually take place elsewhere in the multiverse.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:15
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:The Rhody variant comes from a universe where 1x1=2 The interview with him laying it all out is is still one of the stupidest things I've ever read someone saying. Guy made his own entirely new form of mathematics based around being a dumass who can't count or think good.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:24
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live with fruit posted:The title is misleading if these stories actually take place elsewhere in the multiverse. Which they probably will if for no other reason than to open loopholes to allow them to bring in different (and possibly very slightly different) versions of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanoff and any other hero or villain they want to bring back. "Yes, our Tony Stark died heroically saving the planet but this is Tony Stark from Earth 80085 where his company stopped making weapons but went into producing porn instead of clean energy and now he's the hero known as Iron Dick."
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Jun 22, 2021 15:26
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live with fruit posted:The title is misleading if these stories actually take place elsewhere in the multiverse. What If...? ...we didn't prune this timeline and kill everyone in it?
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Jun 22, 2021 15:26
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Everyone posted:Which they probably will if for no other reason than to open loopholes to allow them to bring in different (and possibly very slightly different) versions of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanoff and any other hero or villain they want to bring back. "Yes, our Tony Stark died heroically saving the planet but this is Tony Stark from Earth 80085 where his company stopped making weapons but went into producing porn instead of clean energy and now he's the hero known as Iron Dick." The entire point of Loki is that there is only one "sacred" timeline instead of a multiverse because having a multiverse at some point in the past lead to war between the different verses, and Loki's actions will presumably end up opening up a new multiverse at the end of the show. There can't be a different multiverse somewhere else the MCU could theoretically interact with, or it defeats the entire point of the TVA as it's been set up. It's also not like it needs to be a whole separate multiverse over there somewhere instead of this multiverse for versions of past characters to drop into the MCU.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:54
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how long until the MCU meets their 616 originals in a sort of Roger Rabbit-esque live/animated mashup
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Jun 22, 2021 15:59
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HOMOEROTIC JESUS posted:But what if I liked Paul Rudd that shredded. Then boy oh boy do I have a scene for you to check out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEC_lkpD3rM
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tsob posted:The entire point of
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In news that should surprise no one, Disney has "no plans" to release any of its Marvel Disney+ shows on Blu-ray or DVD.
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Jun 22, 2021 20:32
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Maybe I'm an outlier, but I haven't owned a PC with a CD/DVD drive for over 6 years and haven't bought physical media or software for even longer. They obviously want to give people a reason to subscribe, even if they just want to watch a few shows, just like every other streaming service, but physical media seems like it is 90% for "collectors" or grandmas now.
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Jun 22, 2021 20:35
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Maybe I'm an outlier, but I haven't owned a PC with a CD/DVD drive for over 6 years and haven't bought physical media or software for even longer. I just prefer to get physical media because every service doesn't seem to hang onto anything for more than a month or two. Netflix is especially terrible about this; their library of licensed content is quite literally one-quarter of what it was in 2014-15. (They had about 16,000 licensed titles then. They're at around 4,000 now.)
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Jun 22, 2021 20:39
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Timby posted:In news that should surprise no one, Disney has "no plans" to release any of its Marvel Disney+ shows on Blu-ray or DVD. Do people still buy those?
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Jun 22, 2021 20:40
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Timby posted:In news that should surprise no one, Disney has "no plans" to release any of its Marvel Disney+ shows on Blu-ray or DVD. I hope they are thinking about an art book for Loki at least. Some really good design there that I wish had more detail. Also the soundtrack. (Will also accept WandaVision soundtrack, especially that one song, you know the one.)
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Jun 22, 2021 20:44
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MiddleOne posted:Do people still buy those? Netflix sells its original shows on BluRay and DVD, and it comes with bonus features, so I could see there being a market for it, especially to get commentaries.
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swickles posted:Netflix sells its original shows on BluRay and DVD, and it comes with bonus features, so I could see there being a market for it, especially to get commentaries. I wish streaming services would include commentaries and special features. I miss those things, but I don't want to buy DVD's for them alone.
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Jun 22, 2021 21:32
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SimonChris posted:I wish streaming services would include commentaries and special features. I miss those things, but I don't want to buy DVD's for them alone. Disney+ does have some making of and behind the scenes featurettes for Marvel and Star Wars stuff, but it would be cool if you could turn on a director's commentary track too. But yeah, the Netflix originals should have some of that stuff available too.
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Jun 22, 2021 21:47
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swickles posted:Disney+ does have some making of and behind the scenes featurettes for Marvel and Star Wars stuff, but it would be cool if you could turn on a director's commentary track too. But yeah, the Netflix originals should have some of that stuff available too. Yeah, they have Gallery for Star Wars and Assemble for Marvel. But indeed it would be cool if it had director and actor's commentaries, and even throw in the bloopers reel.
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Jun 22, 2021 21:53
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SimonChris posted:I wish streaming services would include commentaries and special features. I miss those things, but I don't want to buy DVD's for them alone. Buying things on iTunes include them too, if that's any better than DVDs for you. It's what I do. Legal purchasing and special features without physical media.
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Outside of the first season of Mandalorian, the behind the scenes stuff hasn’t been great. And I say this as someone who loves all the other BTS propaganda films Disney puts out. Just love it, give me that slop.
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Jun 22, 2021 21:57
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Maybe I'm an outlier, but I haven't owned a PC with a CD/DVD drive for over 6 years and haven't bought physical media or software for even longer. Physical media still provides better picture and sound. It also helps if you live somewhere with bandwidth limitations. thrawn527 posted:Buying things on iTunes include them too, if that's any better than DVDs for you. It's what I do. Legal purchasing and special features without physical media. I wish buying things on iTunes always included the same commentaries as the dvd/blu ray versions of those films. I always appreciate when iTunes special features are done well.
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Spacebump posted:Physical media still provides better picture and sound. That is literally true at the highest level, but if I have a monitor with higher resolution than my TV, a Dolby soundbar setup, and 4k streaming it will look far better than 90% of DVDs or Blu-rays at a fraction of the cost of buying all 4k physical media, 4k physical media players, 4k TVs, and sound equipment. I imagine that a lot of people would get a quality difference they could barely recognize in exchange for an enormous amount of media with no upfront costs.
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Netflix does have a couple of “behind the episode” features for some of their big series, like The Witcher. On Disney+, I found the Frozen 2 documentary to be pretty entertaining/insightful, and the Assembled for WandaVision was pretty good as well.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:That is literally true at the highest level, but if I have a monitor with higher resolution than my TV, a Dolby soundbar setup, and 4k streaming it will look far better than 90% of DVDs or Blu-rays at a fraction of the cost of buying all 4k physical media, 4k physical media players, 4k TVs, and sound equipment. I have a 4k monitor and have grabbed 4k, 1080 and 720 versions of the same file before, and when sitting back to watch at a comfortable distance I can't even notice any real difference in all 3 standards. It's only if I'm sitting at my desk right on top of the monitor that I'll really notice a difference, and even then I don't think the difference is so notable as to be worth worrying about. Especially when 4k files are 4 times the size of 1080 ones, while 1080s are bigger again than 720 ones. The sound is probably more variable and noticable with a good setup, but I usually use a pair of headphones, so that's also not really on my radar honestly. A decent pair of bluetooth headphones with noise cancellation and poo poo, but still headphones at the end of the day. The only time I think that the larger HD standard is worth worrying about is maybe documentaries, since they often have shots of really fine detail (such as humongous flocks of animals in nature documentaries), and they are notably sharper in higher definition. Most films, TV shows etc. don't really have that level of detail in the majority of shots that it matters though. tsob fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Jun 23, 2021 00:26
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PJOmega posted:
Yeah, there are almost certainly multiple timelines, just not ones that pose a threat to the ultimate outcome. The TVA's whole premise seems to ben that deviations only matter if they have ripples, but that's not how time works (tree in a forest, etc). If the guy in Pompeii watches Loki speak in the town square when he was supposed to already be home, two different things happened, even if the ultimate outcomes of time remain the same. The archeologist that finds him will find his skeleton on the way home, not in his home. There is no sacred timeline: there are a massive number of highly similar timelines that don't threaten some "ideal" final outcome.
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The Modern Leper posted:There is no sacred timeline: there are a massive number of highly similar timelines that don't threaten some "ideal" final outcome. They sort of visually showed that as a rotating multi strand.
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The "sacred timeline" is a collection of all timelines in which a multiverse doesn't exist, and presumably whatever else the "Time Keepers" want to happen.
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Ah. I think I may be confusing "multiple timelines" with a multiverse in my mind. A variant timeline that produces a multiverse is the (purported) threat; multiple benign timelines are assumed?
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The Modern Leper posted:Ah. I think I may be confusing "multiple timelines" with a multiverse in my mind. A variant timeline that produces a multiverse is the (purported) threat; multiple benign timelines are assumed? I think it’s like a wire rope all the strands twisted together vs a unraveled rope strands going everushered. Both would be a multiverse, just each structured differently.
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The Modern Leper posted:Yeah, there are almost certainly multiple timelines, just not ones that pose a threat to the ultimate outcome. The TVA's whole premise seems to ben that deviations only matter if they have ripples, but that's not how time works (tree in a forest, etc). If the guy in Pompeii watches Loki speak in the town square when he was supposed to already be home, two different things happened, even if the ultimate outcomes of time remain the same. The archeologist that finds him will find his skeleton on the way home, not in his home. Yeah. The usage of the term "sacred" sends up a lot of flares, since that term is super loaded for audiences in the present day. I'd have to rewatch the first episode, but the concept is introduced pretty closely to the cathedral scene which takes place in an entirely manufactured sacred space.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:That is literally true at the highest level, but if I have a monitor with higher resolution than my TV, a Dolby soundbar setup, and 4k streaming it will look far better than 90% of DVDs or Blu-rays at a fraction of the cost of buying all 4k physical media, 4k physical media players, 4k TVs, and sound equipment. Your fancy monitor means jack poo poo if you can only stream at a maximum of 720p on desktop though... I've only been able to watch Loki in 1080p because I stole my dads Chromecast and download the ep and stream from my phone (which is a major pain in the rear end) but I wouldn't go and buy a chromecast just to do that and thus would be limited to 720p through a browser (unless you know, I just stole the loving thing in 1080p of a torrent site) I dunno about 1080 and 4k (isn't 4k pointless below a certain size screen anyway?) but I can defs see the difference between 720 and 1080
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That was a dense episode. Good stuff. I would comment more, but I haven’t had a day off in three weeks and it’s 3 am.
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Yeah I really dug that. Sophia Di Martino did a great job of standing up to Hiddleston and that closing sequence was fantastic. And Loki is canonically bi 
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I liked most of episode 3, but the ""single shot"" scene at the end where they were running around the exploding city felt completely out of place, like something from a Crash Bandicoot running level or Uncharted. The very end was great, and I can't wait to see what they do next wednesday. There's some gendery stuff going on too, but I don't know enough about that subject to properly comment on it. I can't tell if it's queerbaiting or sincere, but I thought it was cool that the variant didn't want to be deadnamed.
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