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The REAL Goobusters posted:Germany is ready to pick up the ball from Sweden Lmao Having TI10 in Cologne would be so incredibly fitting tbh
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Also wasn't team secret formed specifically to win a TI and yet they still haven't, and very likely never will 
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EorayMel posted:Also wasn't team secret formed specifically to win a TI and yet they still haven't, and very likely never will there is one way they can win. if they get into the grand finals and their opponent is eg with rtz. then they will definitely win. edit: ofc in that case it is possible all players on both teams spontaneously combust and the third place team is crowned the winner instead
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EorayMel posted:Also wasn't team secret formed specifically to win a TI and yet they still haven't, and very likely never will well hold on now, they are clearly playing the OG playbook, playing like poo poo pre-TI in order to become 'underdogs' this is their year
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sugar free jazz posted:yea how dare they get hosed over a bit by getting lied to Listen if I were trying to get a company to host a multi-million dollar tournament I would lie about having government influence too. This is some hustler poo poo
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Taffer posted:Why is that weird. We already know rich people get the vaccine first, and if you can travel to another country for an esports tournament you are probably rich. And if not they probably won't let you travel there. I am in no way anywhere close to being considered rich by pretty much any measure but I was saving up to go to TI last year (and possibly this year) but welp
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IcePhoenix posted:I am in no way anywhere close to being considered rich by pretty much any measure but I was saving up to go to TI last year (and possibly this year) but welp Sorry but only rich people can travel did you not get the memo
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Jun 22, 2021 15:21
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just host it somewhere with easy and legal access to weed
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Jun 22, 2021 15:22
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Cerepol posted:just host it somewhere with easy and legal access to weed i was going to say amsterdam but apparantely there's some fuckery going on rn with the cannabis cafes right now lmao
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Jun 22, 2021 15:25
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I still remember going to the dispensary in Vancouver during ti8. Came in so clutch
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Jun 22, 2021 15:27
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Host TI in Satan's Backyard as part of Streetbeefs https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3883865
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Also the biggest decision factor of where TI is going to be is who Valve outsource all the work out to, because they're not gonna do it themselves. China has Perfect World who have run all the Chinese majors/minors and TI, Europe has a ton of companies (EPIC Esports who run Epicenter, WePlay, Starladder), but NA has no one. PGL organized the Boston major despite being a European company, but I don't know if Valve would want them to fly out to America for however many weeks it would take to fully organize a TI in Seattle or whatever rather than having them just do it at a venue they're already familiar with and tons of pre-established contacts for things like catering/hair/makeup/etc.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:33
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TI10 in the UK, we notably don't give a gently caress about travel restrictions so it should be a piece of piss to arrange
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Jun 22, 2021 15:36
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Bring TI to Minneapolis they can hire out the company that does SGDQ here every year
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:but NA has no one. PGL organized the Boston major despite being a European company, but I don't know if Valve would want them to fly out to America for however many weeks it would take to fully organize a TI in Seattle or whatever rather than having them just do it at a venue they're already familiar with and tons of pre-established contacts for things like catering/hair/makeup/etc. There's also the problem that the US kept denying visas to a bunch of players
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Jun 22, 2021 15:38
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bring ti to my house i will host it, i can take care of it myself
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Jun 22, 2021 15:39
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Sounds like TI in Sweden is Bork Bork Borked
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Doesn't matter to me who's fault it is, it's still funny that we don't know where ti is.
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Estraysian posted:Valve also somehow neglected to notice that getting the special exemption would require them to prove that Dota is primarily a physical activity and not a mental one and good loving luck with that I'm not sure about you but I frequently get physically exhausted playing dota from how tilted I get.
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Jun 22, 2021 15:53
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I guess valve will just be forced to cancel it and pocket all the money again
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Jun 22, 2021 15:53
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Where The Hell Is (cyborg)Matt (hosting TI)
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DOTA isn’t an elite sport, no, but I think The International is an elite sporting EVENT, if only for the prize pool and the crowds it draws I do think it’s a little bit of an attitude issue, like Ebert refusing to concede that video games can be considered art. It just seems like the people who matter and make the decisions refuse to see ANY esport event as elite sport, but I think TI is the one event that may be big enough in esports to do so. Oh well, their loss IMO
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its just old people literally not realizing how big gaming has become, its a pretty dang big industry especially among other entertainment industries like music/movies even before the pandemic sort of shut down the real money making opportunities for music/movies
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Centzon Totochtin posted:Sounds like TI in Sweden is Bork Bork Borked
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I was avoiding the thread because I hasn’t watched the final game of VP vs. T1, and thought “Wow lots of posts! Maybe it was a great finish.” Lol, fake sport for nerds gets owned. (Bring TI back to Seattle so I can attend.)
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:I was avoiding the thread because I hasn’t watched the final game of VP vs. T1, and thought “Wow lots of posts! Maybe it was a great finish.” More and more people are saying this
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IcePhoenix posted:Bring TI to Minneapolis they can hire out the company that does SGDQ here every year Yes, and let Sumichu host it
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E-sports are very similar to physical sports in terms of their visa/travel requirements, and most countries have been accommodating them under the same general regulations with very minimal changes. For example, someone coming to the US to play in a specific tournament would get a B-1 business visitor visa, while someone coming to play more permanently (e.g. to join a specific team) can get a P-1 athlete visa, which is exactly what you would get if you were coming to play for the Yankees. You can certainly stand on principle and say that gamers aren’t athletes, but then you’re just going to have to copy+paste the treatment of athletes in your country’s immigration laws, because they really do have very similar needs, like suddenly needing admission because they qualified for a scheduled tournament. Or I guess you could say that your country just isn’t open to e-sports tournaments, but from the perspective of an immigration system that’s like saying that your country isn’t open to Taylor Swift concerts or physics conferences. Generally it’s seen as good when people come to your country, hold events of interest to your citizens, spend a bunch of money, and then leave. Ten years ago it was common for countries to be dragging their feet about this stuff, but Sweden making a special point of doing it in 2021 is definitely lol-worthy. If it’s just COVID-related that’s different, but it doesn’t sound like it’s limited to that at all.
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I'm not sure of the issue, but I seem to remember in the old days there was sort of a problem that Valve doesn't participate in the varying esport governing bodies that a lot of it's competitors in the ongoing/seasonal video game tourney business do? You'd always hear of Dota facing difficulties that Blizzard and Riot events. I'm not sure how CSGO has managed to make it work, probably ESL and others just stepping in and taking reigns. Basically Valve is gaming's most AnCap company, and it's been evident for many years from hats valued at thousands of dollars to the way the company is managed. They don't invest anything in government relations, as though they're passively annoyed that governments exist. Time was once they didn't produce patch notes for the client, because once people got desperate enough to know what was going on CyborgMatt stepped in to do it for free. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jun 22, 2021 |
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Glad Sweden defended their elite physical athlete principles and didn’t allow a dota tournament, which defends the honor of elite physical athletic chess tournaments
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sugar free jazz posted:Glad Sweden defended their elite physical athlete principles and didn’t allow a dota tournament, which defends the honor of elite physical athletic chess tournaments Chess was denied entry into the Swedish Sports Confederation, just like esports was.
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When was the last time Sweden hosted a big esports tournament anyway
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EorayMel posted:Also wasn't team secret formed specifically to win a TI and yet they still haven't, and very likely never will why else do teams form
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Estraysian posted:Chess was denied entry into the Swedish Sports Confederation, just like esports was. high key hosed up imo
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The REAL Goobusters posted:When was the last time Sweden hosted a big esports tournament anyway Dream league studios are there
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Zurreco posted:Yes, and let Sumichu host it  Do a Sumi/Ephy/Moxxi panel on the main stage
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Estraysian posted:Chess was denied entry into the Swedish Sports Confederation, just like esports was. Good 
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Zurreco posted:Same thing applies to a "casual point" in a skill. You're making a small, early investment in something that you're not going to fully build out in the near term. Few pages back but pretty sure these are called "value points" not casual points.
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