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Sites turning into "marketplaces" universally sucks rear end. I get why they do it - more money for them without having to do any of the work of shipping product - but it sucks on the buyer's end.Canine Blues Arooo posted:I've personally basically come full circle, where I use Amazon for window shopping and then buy the actual product direct from the manufacturer. Buying anything second hand off the Internet is basically never happening again for me unless I can examine the product first.  Hell, half the time I just use amazon to have another review pool to look at - actual window shopping on Amazon is a huge chore if you don't want whatever the top 2-3 things in a given search term/category are. (Bonus points if the top things are just color variations on one product or newer/older versions of the same thing)
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Haifisch posted:Sites turning into "marketplaces" universally sucks rear end. I get why they do it - more money for them without having to do any of the work of shipping product - but it sucks on the buyer's end. And the random 'promoted' items when you're trying to search for something specific.
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I buy and make dice for D&D and the current hotness is hollow metal dice - they've been available for a few years but just recently at a reasonable price. Over the last few months they went from Etsy-only for genuine, handmade ones, to being widely available on Ali. Now Etsy is flooded with "genuine, handmade" hollow dice that are just purchased in bulk from Ali and resold at a 30-50% markup. Just a big old scammy circle that must happen for literally thousands of products, I happened to be close/knowledgeable enough to see this one unfold in real time.
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Jun 22, 2021 11:49
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A time honored tradition- a ton of stuff on Etsy is repackaged/glued together junk. It’s fun doing reverse image searches on jewelry.
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Sanford posted:I buy and make dice for D&D and the current hotness is hollow metal dice - they've been available for a few years but just recently at a reasonable price. Over the last few months they went from Etsy-only for genuine, handmade ones, to being widely available on Ali. Now Etsy is flooded with "genuine, handmade" hollow dice that are just purchased in bulk from Ali and resold at a 30-50% markup. Just a big old scammy circle that must happen for literally thousands of products, I happened to be close/knowledgeable enough to see this one unfold in real time. There's a goon making dice in his basement as a full-time job and selling on etsy who sees his designs pop up as knockoffs. It sucks rear end how quick stuff gets counterfeit.
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I've been thinking about selling some of my wood carving on Etsy and this is giving me ideas for how to a) write my ad copy ("you will never see this exact item on etsy again") and b) justify raising my prices. I'll have to go through the effort of doing photos for every single item, but that's ok if I'm getting paid for the effort.
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I bought a mouse on Newegg a few months ago. It arrived with a gift receipt from amazon in the packaging. The seller just turned around and ordered one off amazon and had it shipped to me.
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Zereth posted:I bought a mouse on Newegg a few months ago. I've had that happen with both Newegg and AbeBooks.
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Atticus_1354 posted:There's a goon making dice in his basement as a full-time job and selling on etsy who sees his designs pop up as knockoffs. It sucks rear end how quick stuff gets counterfeit. It does, but that final bit of "now all the fake poo poo is on Etsy too" is what really sucks. As a consumer it's impossible to tell what's a real, artisanal product and what's a knockoff from Ali. Ali uses the original pics from Etsy, and so in turn do the Ali resellers back on Etsy. Impossible to tell what you're getting until it arrives. That said, link to the goon dice provider, please?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I've had that happen with both Newegg and AbeBooks. Abebooks is Amazon.
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CommonShore posted:Abebooks is Amazon. *Goes to wikipedia* Well that's depressing.
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Book Depository, Goodreads and Comixology as well. Amazon has a pretty decent stranglehold on the new and used books market.
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Fruits of the sea posted:Book Depository, Goodreads and Comixology as well. Amazon has a pretty decent stranglehold on the new and used books market. Whom don't they own?
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I haven’t tried it yet but supposedly Bookshop.org partners with indie bookstores.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Whom don't they own? MacKenzie Scott!
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Sanford posted:It does, but that final bit of "now all the fake poo poo is on Etsy too" is what really sucks. As a consumer it's impossible to tell what's a real, artisanal product and what's a knockoff from Ali. Ali uses the original pics from Etsy, and so in turn do the Ali resellers back on Etsy. Impossible to tell what you're getting until it arrives. This is really the worst part. For a while etsy was a great place to get handmade stuff and indie art. Now it's hardly possible to search without your results being 75% crap from aliexpress, 20% adds for poo poo that doesn't match your filters at all, and 5% actual results. Plus don't even get me started on seeds.
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Not a scam, but certainly weird: We ordered a case of Minute Maid apple juice off of Amazon, then received a package delivered to our door of 4 6-packs of MM Apple juice in Walmart bags. The first time we thought it was misdelivered and a crazy coincidence from one of our neighbors, but nope. Someone selling on Amazon went to Walmart and grabbed apple juice for us. It wasn’t even that expensive… not sure how they turned a profit
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namlosh posted:...not sure how they turned a profit This is what I think about Ali. Looking at a fake lego man or whatever, someone had to copy it, manufacturer it, pack it, pick it for the order, bag it up, ship it half way round the world via half a dozen different carriers... and it's cost me 90p. How is anyone making money off something like that?
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Atticus_1354 posted:There's a goon making dice in his basement as a full-time job and selling on etsy who sees his designs pop up as knockoffs. It sucks rear end how quick stuff gets counterfeit. There are of course plenty of scummy people on kickstarter who do just resell poo poo from alibaba as well.
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Latest thing I came across was this store Fabletics. They say you can get two pairs of gym shorts for $25. Went to this site and it's actually two pairs for $25 if you enroll in a $60 per month subscription but you can cancel anytime. So I chose that option and immediately canceled the monthly sub. Final thing they mailed out was ONE pair of gym shorts and it was $34 after tax and shipping. They specifically did not list how many pairs was in the order until after it shipped out. I was at least able to get a return label with free shipping so it cost me nothing other than my time but the whole thing was just shady as gently caress.
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Yeah definitely. But then they're not even providing you with the item they promised to get you in the door.
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namlosh posted:Not a scam, but certainly weird: I had this happen too except the reseller hosed up and ordered the wrong item from Walmart so I went down the fraud rabbit hole with Walmart on the phone. They were surprisingly knowledgeable and pleasant to deal with. Then the right thing showed up the next day from the same shipper and it became plain what was going on. The profit may come from some discount program the seller has access to or they may simply be money laundering stolen credit and gift cards.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:*Goes to wikipedia* I went through that cycle of depression about 6 months ago. I order from BetterWorldBooks.com now
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About 15 years ago I wanted to buy a nice travel wood chess set, so I searched ebay. It turned into a grueling education in modern cheap drop-ship grift. Nearly everything I saw was some variation of UNIQUE HANDMADE WOOD WEIGHTED MAGNETIC CHESS SET LOOK!!! NEW!!!!. These listings clotted up every single category so they were completely unavoidable, and they all reused the same 5 photos, with a startlingly wide price range. Now, that's every other store, too. Amazon is ebay is etsy is craigslist is whatever. It sucks, but that's what you get when your culture mostly values getting the cheapest crap at the cheapest price as quickly as possible. doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Sanford posted:This is what I think about Ali. Looking at a fake lego man or whatever, someone had to copy it, manufacturer it, pack it, pick it for the order, bag it up, ship it half way round the world via half a dozen different carriers... and it's cost me 90p. How is anyone making money off something like that? Lego is both using more expensive plastic and also massively overcharging you.
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Plus tons of manufacturing/shipping/everything in China is subsidized by the government… Since I’m in the thread for it, I’d describe it as the long con where you get the world to depend on you by undercutting local competition until they’re forced to close down, then you’re the only game in town and have tons of leverage. Sounds like a conspiracy, since I have no proof that’s the plan. Just a hunch
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doctorfrog posted:About 15 years ago I wanted to buy a nice travel wood chess set, so I searched ebay. It turned into a grueling education in modern cheap drop-ship grift. Nearly everything I saw was some variation of UNIQUE HANDMADE WOOD WEIGHTED MAGNETIC CHESS SET LOOK!!! NEW!!!!. These listings clotted up every single category so they were completely unavoidable, and they all reused the same 5 photos, with a startlingly wide price range. Yeah, it totally sucks. I have a list of craftspeople that I consult when I want something done by an artist, not by a machine on the cheap. It's almost like the antithesis of the idealized Internet, where I have to personally curate a list of 'known goods' because if I were to just google what I'm looking for (even if I use specific phrases like 'hand made' etc.) 9 times out of 10, it's crap. Seriously, unless you are looking for cheap poo poo that may or may not fit the bill, do not order off of Amazon. The silver lining here is that my life is filled with an increasingly large amount of artisan, custom and semi-custom high quality work. It's certainly more expensive, but a lot of the stuff I have now I'll likely never replace. My newest pursuit is to get a 'final' desk made, totally custom, that will hopefully be the last desk I ever buy. Some things (like this desk) are never going to break even against just buying a new one ever half decade from Office Depot or whatever, but a lot of this stuff will eventually represent a monetary savings over a large enough time span because I will truly never replace it. Canine Blues Arooo fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jun 23, 2021 |
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Sanford posted:This is what I think about Ali. Looking at a fake lego man or whatever, someone had to copy it, manufacturer it, pack it, pick it for the order, bag it up, ship it half way round the world via half a dozen different carriers... and it's cost me 90p. How is anyone making money off something like that? economies of scale are a gently caress. back when i used to work distribution we always used to laugh at the fact it typically cost more to get your pallet from the dock to it's destination, then it did getting to the dock from china.
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CoolCab posted:economies of scale are a gently caress. back when i used to work distribution we always used to laugh at the fact it typically cost more to get your pallet from the dock to it's destination, then it did getting to the dock from china. Yep. Everytime it has to be unloaded, sorted, reloaded and rerouted it costs money. That's why the big guys like to use USPS for last mile delivery of small stuff.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:The silver lining here is that my life is filled with an increasingly large amount of artisan, custom and semi-custom high quality work. I liked the comic and greatly want to read more and hope it does not end on that admittedly-realstic note.
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namlosh posted:Plus tons of manufacturing/shipping/everything in China is subsidized by the government… I mean it's Walmart's and Amazon's business model to a tee, so I don't see what's hard to believe about a highly centralized national government applying it.
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Tubgoat posted:Speaking of high-quality work, before registering an account, as a lurker I followed your custom title at the time to a comic about your av dog living in a world of sapient animals alongside humans, and the last thing I read was either she or another dog was assassinated at a rights-themed political rally. Did this story ever get concluded or expanded? Probably a bit of a disappointing answer, but someone bought the avatar for me many, many years ago and I just never bothered to change it. The name also came from a GBS thread almost a decade ago. Nothing here is truly mine except the gang tags I suppose :P. To answer your question then: I have no idea.
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http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Raine_Dog That comic gets...uh...weird
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namlosh posted:Plus tons of manufacturing/shipping/everything in China is subsidized by the government… The Walton family is very disappointed in you and would appreciate it if you stopped spreading these vicious lies. E: ^^^ 
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Machai posted:http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Raine_Dog The author posted an update several years ago explaining how the comic happened and that it will probably never be continued.
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Well, I see the scammers have added a new one: affordable lawn care. I got 20 emails about it in the last two days.
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