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The real unnecessary greatness is dualcast !Time, because you get to do dumb Quick shenanigans. Sure, you need to grind up both dualcast and your levels so you have enough MP to actually cast Quick a lot. But drat if it isn't funny.
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If you're set on monk, they pair incredibly well with the drink! or mix! command. Barehand damage scales with levels and those two commands raise that 'multiplier' quite well.
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Jun 25, 2021 23:39
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Aw boo, there's no advantage to releasing the Lone Wolf in FFV?
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Jun 26, 2021 03:37
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Nope, only disadvantages!
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Jun 26, 2021 06:23
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multijoe posted:I haven't got it yet but there's a respec option later in the game, but really it's stuff like 'don't level Locke's magic and vigor or he'll end up a under-powered generalist'. So far I've found as long as you commit your character to a role you can't really gently caress up too much I did a generalist build (mostly speed, vigor, hp/mp) with Locke and he was awesome, but I think it’s actually hard to make a bad character in BNW; you just need to gear and play your characters well according to their build. The game is harder than ff6, but it never felt unfair and I never had to grind. The mod author has a very clear intended curve that assumes you’ll fight most random encounters and be a the intended level. The only wtf boss for me was dadaluma, who I beat with 1 hp remaining on every party member and no potions, mp, elixirs, ethers, phoenix downs, or anything else left at all. But that was actually really cool. I used the mod’s original script, which is full of unnecessary, but not terribly obnoxious changes. There is a more vanilla option available which I would recommend.
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Alxprit posted:Nope, only disadvantages! It’s cool that they brought him back in FFVI so he could inconvenience you one more time by stealing the half MP accessory. I mean, the Golden Hairpin is really bad in FFVI cause Osmose is so good, but still, think of all the new players who fell for that trap…
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Jun 26, 2021 10:42
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Mega64 posted:The best place to AP grind is the basement of a castle you’ll reach later that has nothing but statues/Objet D Art. They’re vulnerable to L5 Death and also weak to thunder, so a couple castings of Ramuh (or stronger lightning damage like Thunder Scrolls or Thundaga) will make AP grinding a bit faster. You're not wrong but it's still not worth it really. A fight against two Objet d'Arts is 4 AP, a fight against five is 8 AP. The two enemy fight is more common, but even if it wasn't, at 8 AP a fight that's still 124 fights to get a 999 AP ability, and that's not factoring in having to run up to heal at the inn or save point, or buy more thunder scrolls (since you can't hold more than 99 of them, you'd need to buy 35 more at some point). I'd probably do it for Dualcast if I had some poo poo like Thief/Red/Geo/Dragoon though.
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Twelve by Pies posted:You're not wrong but it's still not worth it really. A fight against two Objet d'Arts is 4 AP, a fight against five is 8 AP. The two enemy fight is more common, but even if it wasn't, at 8 AP a fight that's still 124 fights to get a 999 AP ability, and that's not factoring in having to run up to heal at the inn or save point, or buy more thunder scrolls (since you can't hold more than 99 of them, you'd need to buy 35 more at some point). The obvious item without skill requirements also works, and is sold right in that castle rather than having to backtrack. More gil-efficient on the 2-stacks, too (though both it and scrolls are a net gain.) On the other hand, I feel like even with the extremely long last job level, Red Mage doesn't really 'want' a grinding place. Utility caster with decent non-resource damage options is a good place to be through even later dungeons, a lot of your play is going to be governed by what spikes with the latest shop/chests but even still I'd be inclined to fill out other jobs for particular bosses in the basement and then keep RDM on for dungeon trash to work it up. E: Being able to do the statues with no skill requirements or even having to worry about damage scaling based on your gear also means it's a good place for getting jobs that "come online" late up. A stack of the relevant item will supply 152-196 AP over 95-98 combat actions, depending on your luck with group size; that's enough to bootstrap 60-80% of the way to being able to sub !Throw, at which point you can come back and get 196 AP from it on 2-stacks and 392 AP from !Throw on 5-stacks in one sitting, enough to blast through NIN or RNG and get the sub-skill you really want from them rather than being stuck with their mediocre base active and gear options. But the real appeal is just ducking in for a few minutes to get !Control, !Mix, !Zeninage, cases where they're incomplete as even a primary job until you've put some time in. Or making up spell levels as they unlock on the character you're generally keeping as an RDM. Mandoric fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Jun 26, 2021 |
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Jun 26, 2021 14:45
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In the Fiesta Red is not good because of !Red or Dualcast, it’s good because it trivializes W1 and can apply a ton of debilitating statuses (Sleep, Old, Confuse, Poison, Berserk) due to its spell casting and its ability to equip swords, rods AND staves. It’s damage output fades by the end of W1 but by virtue of these weapon equips it’s still very useful to have around. I almost never end up getting Dualcast if I get it.
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derra posted:In the Fiesta Red is not good Agreed.
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I'm enjoying my combo of black and red mage. Toss !Black on the red mage and he can keep up in damage due to boosted magic power. Grinding out doublecast on the person I'm going to make my permanent Black Mage will be annoying, but it's not the lamest thing I've done to support a 4JF run.
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Red Mage is great if you have an actual caster to supplement them with, as long as you have at least one other mage then it rules. It's when you get Red Mage with nothing but physical jobs or magic jobs that aren't casters (Geomancer and Chemist) that it has problems, at that point Red Mage just becomes "A second of the good job I have, but not as good at it." At least you can use !Red to boost zerky's magic score for Rune Axe, and I think it would raise Chemist's magic score slightly too?
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derra posted:In the Fiesta Red is not good because of !Red or Dualcast, it’s good because it trivializes W1 and can apply a ton of debilitating statuses (Sleep, Old, Confuse, Poison, Berserk) due to its spell casting and its ability to equip swords, rods AND staves. It’s damage output fades by the end of W1 but by virtue of these weapon equips it’s still very useful to have around. I almost never end up getting Dualcast if I get it. Not every job needs to bring a bunch of damage to the table. Many fights are won off an old proc.
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1409711194093494300 https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1409711897364946948 The UI is better it looks like. But the sprites still aren’t quite where I wish they were in quality. Is that some new backgrounds in VI? https://youtu.be/9NH4Xnp_NfA
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Jun 29, 2021 04:37
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Disappointing Pie posted:
That battle background and them overlooking Narshe on the cliff are definitely redone.
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Jun 29, 2021 04:43
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The prettiest part of the I and II remakes were always the battle backgrounds, so good to see that they're stepping the other games up to that level. EDIT: Also, we're not gonna be waiting long for these, although prices still unclear. https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1409712872800751619?s=19 Hell of a lot of replies from people who were apparently dead certain they'd have expanded to more platforms since the announcement two weeks ago. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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Jun 29, 2021 04:46
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The VI sprites look different from the ones seen earlier. These ones have both their legs visible during their standing position. It looks better.
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Jun 29, 2021 04:51
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It's gonna be rough replaying FF2 but gently caress it they got me
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Jun 29, 2021 04:52
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If this is a remaster of 3 that's based on the original and not the horrific remake we might be finally getting a version of 3 worth playing.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:If this is a remaster of 3 that's based on the original and not the horrific remake we might be finally getting a version of 3 worth playing. They've been showing the Onion Knight as the main character since the initial announcement, we've known they've been doing this the whole time. Doesn't mean it's not good news, just means it's not NEW news.
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Jun 29, 2021 04:58
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Cleretic posted:They've been showing the Onion Knight as the main character since the initial announcement, we've known they've been doing this the whole time. I meant more the mechanical balancing more than I was talking about the characters.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:If this is a remaster of 3 that's based on the original and not the horrific remake we might be finally getting a version of 3 worth playing. Sad to see they're eliminating another female party member from the series.... maybe the erasure argument is on target 😔
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Sad to see they're eliminating another female party member from the series.... maybe the erasure argument is on target 😔 All the Onion KNights are women. Learn the lore. jokes posted:I went to law school with a really genuinely great and smart guy who ran for and a won a seat on the local city council 2L year. He had lived nearby his whole life and was really ingrained in the baseball scene, including coaching a little league team, said "gently caress it why not" and won. poo poo man I don't know him but good for him.
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jokes posted:That being said, you can probably get away with some guidance from a professor/helpful staff/predecessor. I remember this part from FF8 as well
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Disappointing Pie posted:https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1409711194093494300 The sprites from 1 and 2 loot very similar in a "we used the same template for both" kind of way that doesn't seem to be the case (or as noticeable) for 3-6.
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Jun 29, 2021 05:19
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I just want them on Switch. It was made for these games.
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Jun 29, 2021 05:21
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Evil Fluffy posted:The sprites from 1 and 2 loot very similar in a "we used the same template for both" kind of way that doesn't seem to be the case (or as noticeable) for 3-6. I think that is literally true. 1 and 2 used the exact same template for characters, which ended up being a very general basis for how they'd draw the adult characters in the SNES games (the 3 characters became the template for 'child' characters like Palom, Porom and Krile), and these sprites are essentially direct remasters of those original sprites. The SNES sprites managed to wring out more visual distinction out of these characters with all the extra colors and sprite detail they could fit in. So their direct remaster sprites feel a lot more separate from each other, while the 1 and 2 sprites are polishing up the era of 'we can almost do two distinct male hairstyles'.
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Yeah, I’m most curious about 3. That had to have been rebuilt from the ground-up, right? Whereas all the other games at least had versions which which they could theoretically just swap out graphical elements.
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I've gotten to the final dungeon in 3's DS remake twice, but the difficulty jump from everything previous was too huge and I felt like I got pretty far in without a save point. It was rather annoying so I stopped playing there at the same time. I am quite excited for getting I, V, and VI.
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Oxyclean posted:Playing through FFV for the first time since I always heard about it cause of the job system - just got the black chocobo, I've had a peak at a job guide so I have some ideas how I want to build my characters, but I have a question or two: Dualcast is good but it really isn't worth grinding until you reach the end game. Red mages by themselves are fairly weak unless you spend time on another mage class to give them a secondary ability, and if you do that then you might as well just keep them on that class. 999 AP is a lot and probably won't get that much until you reach the end game anyway. Monks are good early on but they taper off pretty quickly, and unfortunately they don't have much synergy with other classes. Barehanded for mages is kind of silly since they already have their magic for offense. Yeah it costs MP but you never go very far between resting points and you can buy ethers. And to make any good use out of barehanded you'd need to put them in the front row where they'd take extra damage. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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Disappointing Pie posted:https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1409711194093494300 I've been following this guy on twitter that does CRT looks at old games and I got his point about this - the "pixel" look honestly never existed, all of these games knew they were on a CRT which smoothed out the picture and the good ones absolutely took advantage of that fact Kinda made me reconsider what I consider accurate retro recreations and it looks like these FF versions might be leaning into that a bit
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I hope they don't release them in order. I just want a non-hideous 4-6. 
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stev posted:I hope they don't release them in order. I just want a non-hideous 4-6. Emulators are good and a necessary part part of game preservation for this reason
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FF6 BNW is pretty great. Some of the dialog changes they made are, uh, interesting. Sometimes though they really nail the character with new lines:
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I did a VC save right before the Garuda battle in FF3NES and now I'm stuck my last in-game save is over an hour back Might just hit pause and wait to see if this remake is faithful and start over on it.
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:FF6 BNW is pretty great. Some of the dialog changes they made are, uh, interesting. Sometimes though they really nail the character with new lines: The classic scene where Setzer threatens sexual violence
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:FF6 BNW is pretty great. Some of the dialog changes they made are, uh, interesting. Sometimes though they really nail the character with new lines: it's been unfucked almost entirely, the guy who made it just had to keep a few things lmao
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Sandwich Anarchist posted:FF6 BNW is pretty great. Some of the dialog changes they made are, uh, interesting. Sometimes though they really nail the character with new lines: That one image sells me harder on not ever touching BNW than anything that could be said about it.
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