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Mr Hootington posted:Oh yeah the subtext is there that the death eaters are killing thousands of "mudbloods" and muggles in Britain alone. Then you can remember that the death eaters supposedly have global reach with thousands of members that have paralyzed the entire wizardry and muggle worlds. But even afterwards, they can't let those filthy muggles know magic is real, because then they might ask awkward questions like "why haven't you solved world hunger or poverty or literally a dozen other things with literal loving magic," so they probably had squads of wizard cops going around magically erasing people's memories.
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Lugubrious posted:But even afterwards, they can't let those filthy muggles know magic is real, because then they might ask awkward questions like "why haven't you solved world hunger or poverty or literally a dozen other things with literal loving magic," so they probably had squads of wizard cops going around magically erasing people's memories. there exist in our world today a tiny class of humanity with the capacity to end those things without any noticeable impact on our lives - even less than a wizard because instead of going around casting spells they can just text their team of personal assistants to handle it - and mostly you just see people catching bullets for them on twitter
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mandatory lesbian posted:this is truth tho, these books knew the world sucked and didnt care to delude children did somebody mention the noted best children's book series in my entire life, animorphs a year back I downloaded them all to finish what I didn't as a kid, and I was reminded that boy howdy the ghostwriters towards the back half of that series were, uh, not great. still, though
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aren't there like 30 Animorphs books? are they like Goosbumps where each takes 45 minutes to read or something
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indigi posted:there exist in our world today a tiny class of humanity with the capacity to end those things without any noticeable impact on our lives - even less than a wizard because instead of going around casting spells they can just text their team of personal assistants to handle it - and mostly you just see people catching bullets for them on twitter That's a good point and thinking about it from that perspective makes me realize that if Harry Potter wizards were real and revealed themselves tomorrow, the discourse around it would probably go about the same way. Though honestly if Harry Potter wizards were real we wouldn't get the chance to defend them on Twitter, they're fash as gently caress so they'd probably just enslave us all
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I ran into this critique of HP/Rowling a few years back and thought it was p good.
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indigi posted:aren't there like 30 Animorphs books? are they like Goosbumps where each takes 45 minutes to read or something fiftyish and yes, they’re children’s books, middle school reading level at most and only a few special ones hit a hundred pages
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I love Animorphs but the writing is very mass-produced kid books. Series of Unfortunate Events has a bunch of bits that still hold up imo E: I should get around to finishing the Netflix series, only saw the first season
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Lugubrious posted:But even afterwards, they can't let those filthy muggles know magic is real, because then they might ask awkward questions like "why haven't you solved world hunger or poverty or literally a dozen other things with literal loving magic," so they probably had squads of wizard cops going around magically erasing people's memories. Yeah they did that in conjuctuon with the major world governments. They covered up mass causality events and entire muggle families turning up tortured to death or just disappearing. Mr Hootington has issued a correction as of 21:11 on Jun 29, 2021 |
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My estimation of the Sopranos prequel as a film just fuckin' plummeted
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harry potter being a hobbyhorse for hillary fans on twitter (plus jk rowling being terrible) makes it fun to hate on the HP books, but i do think people on the internet can be silly when they're like "how were these books ever popular in the first place?" well, the answer is that they got hundreds of millions of dollars in marketing
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StashAugustine posted:Red October is implicitly anticommunist but the movie lacks Clancy lecturing about the evils of Soviet healthcare im reading this right now and its quite good but goddamn is the misogyny off the charts
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Trabisnikof posted:harry potter needs a sequel where there's a bad group of wizards who want to bring magic to the muggles and harry has to race around europe collecting all the best deatheaters so the bad wizards who want to share magic dont make a deal with them. then they can build a magick artifack with such power that the bad wizards relent and promise not to tell muggles about magic. are these remakes of fast and furious movies or crossovers, i cant tell
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babypolis posted:im reading this right now and its quite good but goddamn is the misogyny off the charts yeah at least some of that can be written up to "Severian is a complete piece of poo poo" but at minimum it's hard to read and idk how much was supposed to be Good, Actually
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Aglet56 posted:harry potter being a hobbyhorse for hillary fans on twitter (plus jk rowling being terrible) makes it fun to hate on the HP books, but i do think people on the internet can be silly when they're like "how were these books ever popular in the first place?" well, the answer is that they got hundreds of millions of dollars in marketing harry potter was some lightning in a bottle, the eragon series was more the one that was totally marketing and a nepotistic rich kid case quote:Following his high school graduation [Dr. Killjoy Note: At FIFTEEN], he started his work on what would become the novel Eragon, the first of a four-book series set in the mythical land of Alagaësia.
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Mr Hootington posted:Oh yeah the subtext is there that the death eaters are killing thousands of "mudbloods" and muggles in Britain alone. Then you can remember that the death eaters supposedly have global reach with thousands of members that have paralyzed the entire wizardry and muggle worlds. JK makes a poignant nazi allegory, completely by accident, and then utterly fails to explore its implications
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So much of the last few Harry Potter books are "the institutions are good, they are only bad when bad people are in charge of them"
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Aglet56 posted:harry potter being a hobbyhorse for hillary fans on twitter (plus jk rowling being terrible) makes it fun to hate on the HP books, but i do think people on the internet can be silly when they're like "how were these books ever popular in the first place?" well, the answer is that they got hundreds of millions of dollars in marketing I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children what I cannot understand is why those erstwhile children (adults) still hold them up as the pinnacle of literature
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Mr Hootington posted:Yeah they did that in conjuctuon with the major world governments. They covered up mass causality events and entire muggle families turning up tortured to death or just disappearing. I'm going to write a fanfiction where Harry Potter is Q and fighting against the Death Eaters who control the deep state
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Atrocious Joe posted:I'm going to write a fanfiction where Harry Potter is Q and fighting against the Death Eaters who control the deep state That is Deathly Hollows.
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indigi posted:I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children
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Getting really mad about ships on Tumblr is like getting really mad about the xbox on gamefaqs but for girls
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indigi posted:I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children There's a void, and it has to be filled with something. Potter had that "pop" or that addictive sugar like quality to it. Then the creators collect other people who are good at their jobs, and the art grows. It's a snow ball down a mountain More reviewers who are more respected, talk about that item. Advertisers of a higher quality, want to work on projects around it. Birthday parities. Video games. Movie deals. Books about what might happen in the next books. All of it screaming "this is good!" Being old and used to that pattern is scary: I end up asking myself, Do I like this because I genuinely like it or was I trained to enjoy it? Every single artiest and writer I like, is now suspect. To stab at the heart: Queen, Beatles, Bowie, Dylan, Stones, Floyd, Jackson, Prince mazzi Chart Czar has issued a correction as of 00:04 on Jun 30, 2021 |
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indigi posted:I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children Harry Potter is the last fictional series they've read. Maybe the only series.
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im not so sure about LOTR being especially right-wing as its core message is that the least likely people can be heroes. gollum and the hobbits are constantly underestimated throughout the entire series right until they basically take down the bad guy. this runs in opposition to 99% of the fantasy books that followed it and directly imitated it. a lot of the modern readings about race in the series are correct but i'm not sure what you would expect from an english academic writing in the 1930s.
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indigi posted:I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children Because most people never have an opportunity to intellectually advance beyond childhood when they are obliged by the forces of capital to devote the whole of their adult lives to production of surplus profit for the ruling class to siphon from. Also, some people just plain don't care about like, having good taste in media. That's okay too. Different strokes and poo poo.
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Dreylad posted:im not so sure about LOTR being especially right-wing as its core message is that the least likely people can be heroes. gollum and the hobbits are constantly underestimated throughout the entire series right until they basically take down the bad guy. this runs in opposition to 99% of the fantasy books that followed it and directly imitated it. a lot of the modern readings about race in the series are correct but i'm not sure what you would expect from an english academic writing in the 1930s. I would argue it's very invested in all the ideas that conservatives claim to believe in before "the day of danger wrung from them the confession that they are enthusiastic only about ground rent."
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never live in the wizarding world of Harry Potter cause it's canon that wizards and witches piss and poo poo all over themselves then just magically clean it up ron weasley just stopping mid conversation and forcing out a turd in front of his friends then continuing as if nothing happened
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mazzi Chart Czar posted:There's a void, and it has to be filled with something. speaking of Bowie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBO0gf27sl8
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power word- Jeb! posted:speaking of Bowie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBO0gf27sl8 This is the other weird thing about art. People have their meanings. People have their arts. Then they connect the two. "Bowie predicted the current usa president" "Socialists are the death eaters." "John Gault and Seperoth represent the Ying and Yang the Tori party." Just Madlibs at some point.
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drat horror queefs posted:Also, some people just plain don't care about like, having good taste in media. That's okay too. Different strokes and poo poo. my taste is garbage. as evidenced by my posts in this thread I enjoy some absolute tripe. but I don't doggedly uphold its universal artistic merit or make it the core of my personality. it's that step into madness I can't wrap my mind around
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indigi posted:my taste is garbage. as evidenced by my posts in this thread I enjoy some absolute tripe. but I don't doggedly uphold its universal artistic merit or make it the core of my personality. it's that step into madness I can't wrap my mind around Americans are incapable of admitting that anything they do isn't just good but a universal imperative
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I only read genre crap, but I like to criticize.
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MonsieurChoc posted:The best right-wing movie is Cobra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIR9kjPujtc
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indigi posted:I absolutely understand how they became massively popular among children I mean, most of them don't. There's a hell of a lot of selection bias at play here. I read Harry Potter as a kid and mostly liked it at the time, because I was a child, and now as an adult I no longer like it, which means I'm not out there on tumblr posting about how I'm a Ravenclaw-Hufflepuff crossbreed or whatever poo poo. The small number of people who read it as kids and are still into it as adults are way outweighed by people who read it as kids and then grew up, but the small group is much louder then the big group.
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The sorting hat was a monster. Putting all the "evil" kids in one house just seems like a bad idea.
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i like how the most exotic thing about hogwarts for americans is just the structure of their boarding school system but its literally just the english boarding school system its one of the few things to rowling didnt worldbuild and is also not coincidentally one of the few parts of the story where the worldbuilding actually makes sense
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