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Jim Silly-Balls posted:white screens on crts were the worst flickery garbage. I had to go to 75 or 85hz before it didn’t bother me. 60hz was unusable for me. Yeah it was probably that. What determined being able to run at 75 to 85hz? The video card? I remember rarely having the option to change it to above 60 but it always helped when it did
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the pixel clock on the video card. refresh freq = pixel clock / pixels per line / number of lines
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 11:39 |
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yeah I vaguely recall it being defined by the DAC? I feel like I remember ads specifically stating the max resolution and refresh that the DAC was capable of.
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 13:05 |
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President Beep posted:oh did u stop posting for a while? lol
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 13:27 |
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:yeah I vaguely recall it being defined by the DAC? I feel like I remember ads specifically stating the max resolution and refresh that the DAC was capable of. indeed, and matrox being the best at dacs and literally no other part of making a video card
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# ? Jun 29, 2021 18:48 |
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their 2d acceleration l was real good by the time when what mattered was 3d also they did multi-monitor on one card for pcs really early (excluding four to six figure workstation cards) also later sold an external box that turned two to three monitors into one monitor for other manufacturers video cards
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:43 |
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not defining calling conventions as part of defining a platform ABI
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:50 |
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compilers that consider themselves superior to the platform and define their own calling conventions, and have to thunk to everything that follows the platform ABI
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:51 |
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eschaton posted:not defining calling conventions as part of defining a platform btw there’s a non x86 arch (current and vintage) thread in shsc you might be interested in dropping into
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:52 |
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linux. lol
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:52 |
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PCjr sidecar posted:btw there’s a non x86 arch (current and vintage) thread in shsc you might be interested in dropping into thanks!
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 02:57 |
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PCjr sidecar posted:also they did multi-monitor on one card for pcs really early (excluding four to six figure workstation cards) I was actually pretty stoked for the parahelia (iirc), since they were working with a game company making what would eventually become Nexus: The Jupiter Incident. Unfortunately, that game basically got cancelled then uncanceled then delayed and I just didn't feel like it was worth it to have multiple monitors just to have multiple monitors at that point, since I didn't understand the value of having multiple monitors yet.
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Carthag Tuek posted:oh wow i forgot abou those i once saw a guy with one in each ear
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 11:34 |
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Pile Of Garbage posted:dude probably still adds "hd=1" to the URL query params on YT remember this? people kept doing that poo poo well after it stopped doing anything
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 12:39 |
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:Yeah it was probably that. the monitor also had to support a higher refresh rate at the selected resolution. usually once you hit the monitors max resolution you were limited to 60hz. if it was a big fancy monitor it could do over 100 at lower resolutions
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 15:38 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the monitor also had to support a higher refresh rate at the selected resolution. usually once you hit the monitors max resolution you were limited to 60hz. if it was a big fancy monitor it could do over 100 at lower resolutions i still feel dumb for tossing my viewsonic that did over 60hz for anything under 1600x1200. it was getting blurry for the max but those lower ones were fine and it was 17.5" viewable, not terrible for older games Volmarias posted:…since I didn't understand the value of having multiple monitors yet. i remember when i got my first agp video card so i could double monitor with my v3 3000. it blew my mind being able to toss all my chats on one and game or work on the other with no performance issues or expensive dual monitor cards i guess i still use that setup for communications; everything on the secondary monitor and to the right side of my desk
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# ? Jun 30, 2021 15:50 |
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konfabulator hell, that entire last year or so of windows xp's life where people were cramming in features from actual modern operating systems with stuff like yahoo widgets, windows desktop search, google desktop, etc.
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 21:50 |
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Volmarias posted:I was actually pretty stoked for the parahelia (iirc), since they were working with a game company making what would eventually become Nexus: The Jupiter Incident. Unfortunately, that game basically got cancelled then uncanceled then delayed and I just didn't feel like it was worth it to have multiple monitors just to have multiple monitors at that point, since I didn't understand the value of having multiple monitors yet. pretty sure I got that game through and it was a perfectly ok space strategy with dreadful plot and cutscenes attached
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# ? Jul 1, 2021 23:02 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:pretty sure I got that game through and it was a perfectly ok space strategy with dreadful plot and cutscenes attached I played it way after launch, from steam for like $5. I played a few of the missions, but realized then at it was going to be the kind of game that heavily punished you for any mistakes, so rather than same scumming I just went to something else and never looked at it again. It's a shame because the game itself had an excellent premise and was supposed to be a sequel to some franchise or another I was excited about. I'm going to have to use a lot more I just realized...
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 00:00 |
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Stardock WindowBlinds
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 02:33 |
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Two Beans posted:Stardock WindowBlinds god i hate joss whedon
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 02:43 |
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Two Beans posted:Stardock WindowBlinds stardock object desktop
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 02:47 |
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supreme commander on multiple monitors absolutely owned bones, btw
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Jonny 290 posted:god i hate joss whedon i googled it. it was firefly.
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 03:31 |
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President Beep posted:i googled it. it was firefly. heh
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 03:50 |
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IBM OS/2 Workplace Shell
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 07:16 |
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Jabor posted:supreme commander on multiple monitors absolutely owned bones, btw Did they actually let monitor 2 be a minimap? I sort of remember it being just a second view, which is nice but having a minimap be a Megamap would really be my preferred thing.
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 07:29 |
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Spreadsheet 2000 previously known as Let’s KISS (Keep It Simple Spreadsheet) it was written in Prograph
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 08:02 |
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Volmarias posted:Did they actually let monitor 2 be a minimap? I sort of remember it being just a second view, which is nice but having a minimap be a Megamap would really be my preferred thing. you could just zoom it out all the way, which would pretty much accomplish the same thing
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 08:05 |
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Two Beans posted:Stardock WindowBlinds litestep
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 08:52 |
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lightscribe or whatever that thing was that let you burn labels on the top of a disc, I remember thinking that was the coolest thing
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 09:53 |
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I wonder if you could generate/discover labels that would induce errors on the disk
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 10:25 |
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eschaton posted:I wonder if you could generate/discover labels that would induce errors on the disk david langford's basilisk image but for optical media, hell yeah! http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/blit.htm
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 10:28 |
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:lightscribe or whatever that thing was that let you burn labels on the top of a disc, I remember thinking that was the coolest thing That's because it was.
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 10:35 |
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carry on then posted:hell, that entire last year or so of windows xp's life where people were cramming in features from actual modern operating systems with stuff like yahoo widgets, windows desktop search, google desktop, etc. when XP support finally ended there was a guy in shsc who was absolutely convinced you could carry on getting new updates by paying MS about $100/yr - not understanding that it only applied if you were the size of IBM or a national government and paid $100 per machine (minimum 10,000 machines, price will double every year, etc...)
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 11:56 |
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no it’s true. my uncle who works at microsoft told me.
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 12:04 |
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Sweevo posted:when XP support finally ended there was a guy in shsc who was absolutely convinced you could carry on getting new updates by paying MS about $100/yr - not understanding that it only applied if you were the size of IBM or a national government and paid $100 per machine (minimum 10,000 machines, price will double every year, etc...) i remember people figuring out how to pull those updates and it was like watching someone dry off with a towel on a sinking ship
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 12:27 |
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Volmarias posted:Did they actually let monitor 2 be a minimap? I sort of remember it being just a second view, which is nice but having a minimap be a Megamap would really be my preferred thing. Farmer Crack-rear end posted:you could just zoom it out all the way, which would pretty much accomplish the same thing yeah you couldn't like, leave it zoomed out and click on it to warp your other monitor to that point, but you could leave it zoomed out to maintain your high-level awareness of what was going on also you could do things like watch a fight to react quickly when you needed to while you were macroing on your other screen
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 13:58 |
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Agile Vector posted:i remember people figuring out how to pull those updates and it was like watching someone dry off with a towel on a sinking ship i love grognards who refuse to give up dying or unsuported operating systems there were the weirdos who used XP-x64, which iirc used the Server 2003 kernel so kind of actually wasn't XP and had various issues in running as an everyday system. maybe just driver availability issues? i dunno, but you were completely nuts to keep using it once 7 came out. then you had POSready (lol) 2009, a version of XP intended for point of sale and poo poo along those lines, MS supported that up until just a few years ago. i think there was also some way to get the updates intended for posready and just use them on regular xp. absolute degenerates SO DEMANDING fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Jul 2, 2021 |
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SO DEMANDING posted:i love grognards who refuse to give up dying or unsuported operating systems yeah. when notepad++ dropped windows xp support there was a thread of screaming xp users, at least a few calling them classist for dropping support which, just keep using the version that works?
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