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Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

it would be better if you could just have MS do a quarterly count of your seats and not tie it up in buying licenses ahead of time.

I mean we use on premises AD to control our 365/exchange online licensing so you'd think it would just give you a quarterly correction invoice or something where you're either in credit or debit. it would encourage proper exiting within the busienss at least

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Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum
Didn't the pathway out get announced some time last year? And then quietly abandoned a few months later.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Lolie posted:

Didn't the pathway out get announced some time last year? And then quietly abandoned a few months later.

I doubt anyone's buying it this time, because he's trying to normalize what NSW did and everybody saw just how and why that spiraled out of control.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Is that the sound of a helicopter coming in to land I hear?

No, wait, it's loving Scummo trying to spin what's going on as "oh well, this is just going to happen every now and then until we're all vaccinated :shrug:. It'll be better later in Phase 3, this is still Phase 1!!"

The Underpants Gnomes have a better strategy than him.

Yep, he's shifting responsibility onto individuals to get vaccinated (and then we can all open up!) rather than leading from the front.



Lolie posted:

Didn't the pathway out get announced some time last year? And then quietly abandoned a few months later.

Federal government had to drop all discussion of vaccination goals when it became super clear they weren't able to hit any of them and instead lean hard on the "It's not a race!!" message, all the pathways got dropped at that point.

But now QLD and NSW and ACT are in lockdown so he has to be seen to be doing something, or at least talking about potentially doing something at some undetermined future point if a currently undefined number of vaccinations can be achieved. He's kicking the can down the road AGAIN because that's all he's capable of doing.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Lolie posted:

All of the Microsoft licences at daughter's work expired on 30 June. Nobody renewed them so 1500 staff were unable to send or receive emails yesterday.

was this the ATO?

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Nope. NSW government department. My daughter has worked at the ATO, though.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yep, he's shifting responsibility onto individuals to get vaccinated (and then we can all open up!) rather than leading from the front.

Federal government had to drop all discussion of vaccination goals when it became super clear they weren't able to hit any of them and instead lean hard on the "It's not a race!!" message, all the pathways got dropped at that point.

But now QLD and NSW and ACT are in lockdown so he has to be seen to be doing something, or at least talking about potentially doing something at some undetermined future point if a currently undefined number of vaccinations can be achieved. He's kicking the can down the road AGAIN because that's all he's capable of doing.

Yeah, he's setting up the "scientific, not political" numbers thing as a catch-all excuse because if they're still in Phase 1 at the end of the year, oh well Science says the numbers aren't good, not his fault!! :shrug:

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Gromit posted:

Let us know if it hits you tomorrow. Mine is due for July 12 and I hear the 2nd Pfizer can be a tough one.
Just a sore arm and a bit tired, same as the first shot. No worries!

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Yeah, he's setting up the "scientific, not political" numbers thing as a catch-all excuse because if they're still in Phase 1 at the end of the year, oh well Science says the numbers aren't good, not his fault!! :shrug:

If we're still in Phase 1 at the end of the year he will need to pull something spectacular out of the hat before May rolls around.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Lolie posted:

If we're still in Phase 1 at the end of the year he will need to pull something spectacular out of the hat before May rolls around.

There's absolutely no way the LNP will allow lockdowns and border closures to continue on and off for another 6 months, but I'm also pretty sure that Scummo is betting that the case numbers drop in the next week and the premiers can lift all the lockdowns and the furore will die off and take the pressure off him. Because that's how assholes like Morrison and Johnson and Trump deal with existential threats.
If we get more cases and more lockdowns later in the year he'll blame people who have"chosen" not to get vaxxed for holding everyone else back, even though there's not enough doses to go around. If we still haven't reached the Phase 2 requirements by the end of the year they'll push it forwards anyway, arguing that hospitalizations and deaths are way down so we must have hit herd immunity already.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

There's absolutely no way the LNP will allow lockdowns and border closures to continue on and off for another 6 months, but I'm also pretty sure that Scummo is betting that the case numbers drop in the next week and the premiers can lift all the lockdowns and the furore will die off and take the pressure off him. Because that's how assholes like Morrison and Johnson and Trump deal with existential threats.

The plan the premiers put to him was almost certainly predicated on Gladys not loving the entire country over this past week, and now Scotty's going to be caught with his pants down again when things are not back to relatively-normal in another week. NSW is not coming out of lockdown for months at this point and if they try they'll just make it much, much worse for themselves.

So of course you just know they're going to do it at the first sign of cases easing.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Neddy Seagoon posted:

The plan the premiers put to him was almost certainly predicated on Gladys not loving the entire country over this past week, and now Scotty's going to be caught with his pants down again when things are not back to relatively-normal in another week. NSW is not coming out of lockdown for months at this point and if they try they'll just make it much, much worse for themselves.

So of course you just know they're going to do it at the first sign of cases easing.

During the press conference he was talking about how the situation in Sydney has leveled out and numbers are holding steady which was a big LOL

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

During the press conference he was talking about how the situation in Sydney has leveled out and numbers are holding steady which was a big LOL
He must have been pissed when Gladys telegraphed an increase.

At this rate it's going to be weeks before we hit the target of several days of no new cases in the community.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

the saddest, most frustrating about this whole gently caress up of a federal government and the mismanagement of the pandemic response at the federal level is that those who are the least affected (boomers) are the ones who are going to keep voting for the fuckheads and they will win in yet another undeserved victory of no policies and no long term future planning.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

During the press conference he was talking about how the situation in Sydney has leveled out and numbers are holding steady which was a big LOL

I mean technically he was correct; It's a steady increase in cases :v:.



Lolie posted:

At this rate it's going to be weeks before we hit the target of several days of no new cases in the community.

Nah, NSW is kinda hosed for a month or two because Gladys tried to make it as half-assed a lockdown as possible. If she'd fired off a state-wide Stage-4 circuitbreaker lockdown when this first started they'd have potentially zeroed out their cases by now and be getting back to normal. Instead you've got idiots, self-important rich fuckwits with holiday homes, and good old anti-vaxxers able to keep bumblefucking around half of New South Wales unrestricted and wandering over into others around Australia to spread Delta everywhere as well.

There's a reason Victoria locks down hard when we do it, and it's because if we don't hit everywhere the fuckwits will flee like roaches beyond the arbitrary perimeter and take COVID with them. Only took the first lockdown to figure that one out with the Mornington Peninsula holiday homes.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

2nd fizzer down

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

still just lolling my balls off that we have been letting in like 10k business/leisure tourists a week for no reason at all and time and time again it is the root cause of every outbreak yet we dont need proper quarantine facilities or even the bare minimum of a vaccination for transport staff at the airports.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Laserface posted:

still just lolling my balls off that we have been letting in like 10k business/leisure tourists a week for no reason at all and time and time again it is the root cause of every outbreak yet we dont need proper quarantine facilities or even the bare minimum of a vaccination for transport staff at the airports.

We very likely don't have a national quarantine program because then all the Lib's mates would have to go through it instead of being able to circumvent whichever State-level methods are the most convenient.

Yolo Swaggins Esq
Jan 29, 2015

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"Everything will be locked down for the new world order" seems to be the new end of times I guess

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

bowmore posted:

Just a sore arm and a bit tired, same as the first shot. No worries!

Noice. I had a vaguely sore arm after the first shot but that was all. We'll see how I go with the 2nd in 10 days time.

Centusin
Aug 5, 2009

Laserface posted:

still just lolling my balls off that we have been letting in like 10k business/leisure tourists a week for no reason at all and time and time again it is the root cause of every outbreak yet we dont need proper quarantine facilities or even the bare minimum of a vaccination for transport staff at the airports.

your numbers are very off and rather than point out why I'll just link you this article below, it's sad you bought so easily into Labor's strategy of blaming this on foreigners. Also I'll add, QLD chose to base their 20k last month number based off of arrival card data, emphasising that some of them were coming into meet friends, conveniently leaving out that seeing friends or relatives is the exact same check box on an arrival card, and people reuniting with family should be an entirely valid reason to enter.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...stralia-and-why

also business/leisure tourists have nothing to do with the NSW outbreak because the transport driver was driving a crew from a freight plane

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Centusin posted:

your numbers are very off and rather than point out why I'll just link you this article below, it's sad you bought so easily into Labor's strategy of blaming this on foreigners. Also I'll add, QLD chose to base their 20k last month number based off of arrival card data, emphasising that some of them were coming into meet friends, conveniently leaving out that seeing friends or relatives is the exact same check box on an arrival card, and people reuniting with family should be an entirely valid reason to enter.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...stralia-and-why

also business/leisure tourists have nothing to do with the NSW outbreak because the transport driver was driving a crew from a freight plane

I didn't blame foreigners I blamed the federal government you dopey oval office. Don't stand up for the fuckwits in power, they have hosed the entire response to the pandemic and are wholly responsible for the lovely vaccine roll out and fast and loose bullshit with quarantine workers resulting in these bullshit lockdowns we are currently in.


So get hosed. By scomos big religious cock, if you prefer.

Lolie
Jun 4, 2010

AUSGBS Thread Mum
As the mother of two nurses, I'm still wondering how the gently caress a student nurse was allowed to work at three hospitals without being vaccinated.

My kids weren't able to start their clinical placements without supplying proof of vaccination/immunity. NSW Health dropped the ball badly on this and we now have a cluster of 10 because of it.

Mne nravitsya
Jul 14, 2017

Pfizer two days ago:

Painful arm for the first 24 hours, and now it's not outwardly noticeable unless I push on it
Felt like the shot gave me a 24 hour head cold with sinus pressure and lots of snot and sneezing, but that has pretty much cleared up

Next shot in 19 days....Hopefully it will be the same as the first.

The most stressful time was directly after they gave the shot. There was a room where I had to go sit for 20 minutes to make sure there was no adverse reactions/anaphylactic shock. And of course, being peaked with stress hormones I was hypersensitive to everything "Did my heart just skip a beat?!" "Am I breathing easily or do I feel like it's getting harder!?!" "Why am I sweating?!" "Am I having a panic attack?!"

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Mne nravitsya posted:

The most stressful time was directly after they gave the shot. There was a room where I had to go sit for 20 minutes to make sure there was no adverse reactions/anaphylactic shock. And of course, being peaked with stress hormones I was hypersensitive to everything "Did my heart just skip a beat?!" "Am I breathing easily or do I feel like it's getting harder!?!" "Why am I sweating?!" "Am I having a panic attack?!"

https://i.imgur.com/vEBT3qd.mp4

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Because of the lockdown there were no lolipops this time.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
One minor silver lining about the lockdown is that the food trucks are out in force.

About to head out to this https://www.bellavistahotel.com.au/events/food-truck-express-drive-thru/

You order everything via phone app and they bring it to your car

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


We can all agree that no matter what time of year, the mountain of blankets and sheets on the spare bed at nannas house is perfect.

And fucken ebay plus being cheeky cunts. Charged me for my next year subscription, THEN sent an email about ending the 5% off Coles and free delivery a day later. Now fighting the cunts for a refund.

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Gromit posted:

Noice. I had a vaguely sore arm after the first shot but that was all. We'll see how I go with the 2nd in 10 days time.

I'm sure you'll be fine

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

Raged posted:

One minor silver lining about the lockdown is that the food trucks are out in force.

About to head out to this https://www.bellavistahotel.com.au/events/food-truck-express-drive-thru/

You order everything via phone app and they bring it to your car

Whelp got there a bit out after 7 and they cut off the line since they got slammed and all the trucks were out of food

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Bella vista hotel does great fried chook burgs. And burgs in general.

Dr. Garbanzo
Sep 14, 2010

Lolie posted:

As the mother of two nurses, I'm still wondering how the gently caress a student nurse was allowed to work at three hospitals without being vaccinated.

My kids weren't able to start their clinical placements without supplying proof of vaccination/immunity. NSW Health dropped the ball badly on this and we now have a cluster of 10 because of it.

As a child of two nurses I'm going to guess that because the covid vaccine is fairly new it hasn't been added into the compulsory list of things that nurses need before they can work on a ward as a student or not. They would have had the rest of their poo poo in order but perhaps not the covid vax especially if they're young and not considered for it because they are a student and not a "nurse" for want of a better word.

Woring in schools does not guarentee a covid vax either cause I don't meet the criteria and I have to put all of the medical advice that covid doesn't spread in schools ahead of my own axieties that I could veryuu much catch covid working in a school which would be rather detrimental to my partner and her health.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

Oh hi Australia thread.

Come hang out on goontu.be with me sometimes if you want.

In other news, people in brisbane seem to be generally fed up with relatively loose restrictions. I had some really passive aggressive talk in the lift the other day when I was wearing a mask. People seem pretty flippant about the whole thing.

We had this lady in newstead just keep her eyebrow salon open then police told her to stop. Kind of a funny super low key on-brand for brisbane act of "political dissidence".

femcastra
Apr 25, 2008

If you want him,
come and knit him!

Poohs Packin posted:

Oh hi Australia thread.

Come hang out on goontu.be with me sometimes if you want.

In other news, people in brisbane seem to be generally fed up with relatively loose restrictions. I had some really passive aggressive talk in the lift the other day when I was wearing a mask. People seem pretty flippant about the whole thing.

We had this lady in newstead just keep her eyebrow salon open then police told her to stop. Kind of a funny super low key on-brand for brisbane act of "political dissidence".

Was this lift chat during lockdown? We’ve got a party four houses down and I want to dob them in but I don’t know how many people live there/are there so…I guess I just won’t.

Poohs Packin
Jan 13, 2019

femcastra posted:

Was this lift chat during lockdown? We’ve got a party four houses down and I want to dob them in but I don’t know how many people live there/are there so…I guess I just won’t.

It was several hours before. I decided to wear a mask in the lift just 'cuz.

Nobody usually talks about anything in the lifts but some guy just decided to share with the entire lift that he'd rather just get covid than get a vaccine and its all bullshit but he's "just sayin'" to his mate. No response here just lovely.

edit: to be sure I'm against dobbing in the neighbours. If you're confident enough to sic the dogs on them you should be confident enough to have a chat. Then again I'm from the US and calling the cops can have way more serous implications. Aussie cops are still poo poo.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

femcastra posted:

Was this lift chat during lockdown? We’ve got a party four houses down and I want to dob them in but I don’t know how many people live there/are there so…I guess I just won’t.

Dob'em in, because otherwise it's a potential super-spreader they sure as poo poo won't admit to the tracers after the fact.

Tirade
Jul 17, 2001

Cybertron must act decisively to prevent and oppose acts of genocide and violations of international robot rights law and to bring perpetrators before the Decepticon Justice Division
Pillbug

Gromit posted:

Noice. I had a vaguely sore arm after the first shot but that was all. We'll see how I go with the 2nd in 10 days time.

Yer my second jab was the same as my first - sore arm and slept for an extra hour, apart from that no side effects

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I mean technically he was correct; It's a steady increase in cases :v:.

Last Saturday & Sunday there were 29 and 30 cases reported and there were 31 cases reported today, seems pretty level to me. :colbert: (please ignore every day in between tyvm)

Laserface posted:

the saddest, most frustrating about this whole gently caress up of a federal government and the mismanagement of the pandemic response at the federal level is that those who are the least affected (boomers) are the ones who are going to keep voting for the fuckheads and they will win in yet another undeserved victory of no policies and no long term future planning.

A small number of boomers are experiencing some consequences, possibly for the first time in their entire lives judging by their reactions. :v:
https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1410830569324220417

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Last Saturday & Sunday there were 29 and 30 cases reported and there were 31 cases reported today, seems pretty level to me. :colbert: (please ignore every day in between tyvm)

A small number of boomers are experiencing some consequences, possibly for the first time in their entire lives judging by their reactions. :v:
https://twitter.com/abcnews/status/1410830569324220417

ACAB but ABAB equal if not more.

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Elissimpark
May 20, 2010

Bring me the head of Auguste Escoffier.

Dr. Garbanzo posted:

As a child of two nurses I'm going to guess that because the covid vaccine is fairly new it hasn't been added into the compulsory list of things that nurses need before they can work on a ward as a student or not. They would have had the rest of their poo poo in order but perhaps not the covid vax especially if they're young and not considered for it because they are a student and not a "nurse" for want of a better word.

Woring in schools does not guarentee a covid vax either cause I don't meet the criteria and I have to put all of the medical advice that covid doesn't spread in schools ahead of my own axieties that I could veryuu much catch covid working in a school which would be rather detrimental to my partner and her health.

You are correct. I'm currently studying nursing and getting my vaccinations up to date has been a pain (I'm a weird age where I was too young for a full MMA, but too old to get Hep B and Varacella in the normal order of things), but the COVID vaccine is not specifically noted on the list of required shots. I very easily could have not got my COVID shots at all, though we have been provided with information by the uni to get them. That said, this is in Tasmania, so they may not have the same urgency.

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