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Asterite34 posted:let's try and see if any of the old Soviet psychotronic research paid off and have some "sensitive" subjects set up sleeping bags around the tubes and see what noninvasive intel we can glean from their dreams Hell yes. e: update last page.
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I don't suppose anyone knows what John C. Lilly is up to these days? Probably in Hawaii? I'm sure he can come up with some way to psychically commune with the aliens via the medium of sensory deprivation tanks, LSD and dolphin masturbation. e: okay maybe not that last one ideally
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Is there an active Discord for this LP? The existing links expired.
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This is interesting: The report of my young colleague mentioned a curious name: Mangala A Hindu deity associated with Mars. Do we have any Information whether Dr. Fujiwara has any knowledge of Hindu mythology? If not, this might hint at an external origin of this term, possibly coming from one of the frozen Roswells.
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Kodos666 posted:This is interesting: The report of my young colleague mentioned a curious name: Mangala The way it's phrased doesn't really suggest that at all. The only thing it really suggests is that this alien and/or her fellows had contact with (likely) the people of India and thus are only somewhat familar with their preferred term. This may suggest that a deep examination of the archaeological and historical record of India is probably needed though.
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Telsa Cola posted:The way it's phrased doesn't really suggest that at all. The only thing it really suggests is that this alien and/or her fellows had contact with (likely) the people of India and thus are only somewhat familar with their preferred term. I think they meant external to the Doctor's experience and memory, implying she didn't just remember the term in her dream, that it is new information she's getting from somewhere, bolstering the "alien telepathy" theory
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Boat Stuck posted:Is there an active Discord for this LP? The existing links expired. This link should work
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Asterite34 posted:Alternatively, let's try and see if any of the old Soviet psychotronic research paid off and have some "sensitive" subjects set up sleeping bags around the tubes and see what noninvasive intel we can glean from their dreams Let's do this one, send an interdisciplinary psychonaut corps to commune with the Roswells. Bring a dolphin if we can somehow manage it.
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Crazycryodude posted:Let's do this one, send an interdisciplinary psychonaut corps to commune with the Roswells. Bring a dolphin if we can somehow manage it. Don't forget the weed and LSD!
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Please be sending the good Doctor a fruit basket or something with the next supply run.
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Listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ors0wpcVDcc January 1, 1983  Life in the Trans-Newtonian era goes on. Ship Commander Dirt5o8 of the CSV Tranquility gives a speech to their crew on the bridge to inaugurate the new year. Survivors on Cydonia break out barrels of homemade hooch and share them with the science team (sailors have the near-magical ability to summon alcohol anywhere if not actively prevented from doing so). The Association of Autonomous Astronauts loads a consignment of colony infrastructure onto their shiny new freighter, bound for the Moon - and, at the same spaceport, passengers board Hawaiian shuttles for the trip to Lunagrad. Aboard the AAA freighter is an experimental maglev locomotive designed for operation in vacuum, to be operated on a small test track that is already under construction outside Lunagrad. Far in the outer planets, the incomprehensibly remote exploration ships Karzelek and Skarbnik rendezvous in orbit of Uranus. They have been in deep space for almost twenty-three months, and will soon begin their journey back to Earth, to resupply, undergo maintenance, and get some much-needed shore leave, before beginning their exploration of the Kuiper Belt. This is the official reason for their return. In reality, the ships are still over a year away from exceeded their designed deployment time. While they will indeed receive maintenance and resupply, and there will indeed be shore leave, they have another purpose. They will be turning their powerful survey sensors towards Earth and the Moon, ostensibly to re-calibrate them. With the aid of the FESTER stations and the Comintern's intelligence agencies, if there is a secret base on the Moon, or a nuclear submarine stalking the oceans of Earth, they will find them.  The new flag is run up the flagpole at Ascension at dawn. It meets with general approval.  After the flag-raising ceremony, a bleary-eyed Director Kuzmin enters Mission Control and requests a report on all currently tracked space traffic, which contains nothing out of the ordinary. She then requests the latest reports from Mars, which do contain a few things out of the ordinary. The science team at Barsoom, as part of the New Years' Day festivities, conducted what a sheepish report refers to as 'an impromptu aerodynamics experiment' (deliberately overrode the engine governor on a rover and ramped it off a hill), rendering one of the expedition's vehicles inoperative due to suspension damage. The Cydonia team sent a series of images of alien text and iconography, specifically wall, door, and floor signage, to be forwarded to linguists at Interkosmos Academy, as part of the project of attempting to decode the aliens' written language (or possibly languages?). The Hawaiian cryonics expert sent in a report, which was forwarded from Ascension to HRSA, indicating that she had figured out the 'on switch' for the Martian cryopods, and was close to figuring out 'off' as well, at which point the team will move on to experimenting with an unoccupied pod. She also had a very strange dream. She requests information on a strange word she heard in her dream, 'Mangala', asking specifically if any Earth cultures have ever referred to Mars by that name. They have. Director Kuzmin frowns, and exits Mission Control without a word, heading to her office to send a quick email. The message goes out to four people - two Comintern academicians, a researcher in a Soviet closed city Kuzmin isn't supposed to know about, and Doctor Zdeněk Rejdák of the University of Prague, director of the university's rather unique Psychoenergetic Laboratory and founder of the International Association for Psychotronic Research. January 2, 1983 A pair of new Proton-B and Electron-B spacecraft are laid down, in order to provide FESTER surveillance coverage of the Moon. They will take nearly two months to complete. January 3, 1983 Teams of diplomats, bureaucrats, and administrators who have not slept in days begin fanning out to all four corners of the Earth, to begin implementing the various projects the People's Congress has assigned to them. Entire new bureaus have to be established. Negotiations with the Indians and Japanese must be conducted. A global diplomatic forum must be created, a grand socialist exhibition must be planned. Much to do. January 4, 1983  The Tranquility returns from Mars. She will spend the next several weeks being very thoroughly overhauled and decontaminated. Everything must be absolutely perfect for the next trip to Cydonia, for, when she goes, she will return bearing precious cargo. XCOM begins planning for the stressful task of publicizing the existence of the Cydonia survivors, as mandated by the People's Congress. The plan will be explained to the survivors, interviews will be conducted and good candidates for public appearance selected, a venue for the Earthside press conference will be chosen, a small makeshift studio built inside the Face, and some documentary footage shot of the Cydonia ruins for public consumption. Vandenberg Air Force Base in PRCal will be prepared for the arrival of these 'Knights of Cydonia'. January 10, 1983 After days of discussion and explanation, the Cydonia survivors have come to a final decision. Nearly all of them choose to return to Earth, at least temporarily. Over a dozen express interest in joining MOSA, when the possibility is mentioned, and perhaps returning to Mars. Two Germans and three Americans, all of them enlisted men, ask to stay on Mars. At least two of those five have developed romantic entanglements with members of the science team, which may have been a contributing factor. January 12, 1983  A design bureau in PRCal completes a practical railgun design. The EXCALIBUR is a crude, bulky, unwieldy thing with a very long barrel and two huge banks of capacitors, utterly impractical for anything except a spacecraft or a stationary installation. A single charge of its capacitors can be expended to fire a four-round burst of solid, conical 100mm ferromagnetic TN alloy slugs at incredible velocity. Its hypothetical sustained damage output is expressed in kilotons of TNT per second. It is the most destructive non-nuclear weapon ever built by human hands. Fired from orbit, with intent and a bit of time, one of them could obliterate a city. It is cheap and simple enough to mass produce. When you loft this thing into orbit, it will instantly obsolete every strategic nuclear arsenal on the planet.  The weapon consumes such great amounts of power that an entire dedicated fission reactor will be required to power each gun. technically I could have made a power-2 reactor, since you only have level 2 capacitors, but we're futureproofing a little bit. If you wish, you can also make a larger reactor to power multiple guns at once, if you decide to make a large ship. January 16, 1983 The Trans-Newtonian maglev line between Paris and Lyon is formally inaugurated. The route from Lyon to Marseille, Nice, and Italy is expected to be operational in a few months, as is the route from Paris to Strasbourg by the end of the year. It is the first truly large-scale deployment of the technology, and is expected to serve as a model for the rest of the world. January 20, 1983  The combustion chamber of CSV Karzelek's nuclear thermal engine develops a crack and repairs have to be conducted with onboard spares. This is used to reinforce the public justification for bringing the ships home. January 24, 1983 Doctor Fujiwara has continued to report strange dreams, as well as further progress on the cryo-chambers. We can now reliably freeze, and then unfreeze, an empty tube - although we know from our own designs that ensuring that the subject exits suspended animation alive is more complicated than just thawing them out. Her reports continue to be spread around to some of our more...fringe...scientists. We have magic space rocks and aliens, after all, Director Kuzmin reasons. Nothing seems all that crazy anymore. The metaphorical, and literal, welcome mat at Vandenberg is pretty much ready, with a studio for a press conference, quarantine, medical, and temporary housing facilities, and an honor guard from the Interplanetary People's Army. The arrival of the Cydonia survivors is still more than a month away - the Tranquility hasn't even left for Mars yet - but XCOM is going to ensure that everything is perfect when they do arrive. The year's diplomatic plans are all on hold until the Cydonia announcement, but plans are quietly being made, preparations laid, speeches rehearsed. A full-on worldwide diplomatic blitz is coming. January 28, 1983  The Skarbnik returns to Earth, to a hero's welcome, after over two years in deep space. The Karzelek is a few days' behind. While the celebrations are ongoing, the Tranquility quietly departs for Mars, supposedly for a routine crew transfer. The first of the Lunar FESTER stations is completed.  Its command is given to Ship Commander i ride bikes all day. It will remain in orbit around Earth conducting systems tests until its Proton companion is completed, then the two will set out together for Luna. January 30, 1983  Outwardly, everything is normal. In backrooms and offices, the Comintern holds its breath. In less than a day, you will begin scanning Earth for signs of the SSBN Revenge. In less than a month, the world will know about Cydonia.
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Excellent, excellent. In a month, we'll know if my various galaxy-brain plays were true diplomatic masterstrokes, or catastrophic boondoggles 
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Those railguns look cool we should arm our loyal and steadfast Comrade Purple with one so he can protect the FESTER satellites.
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paragon1 posted:Those railguns look cool we should arm our loyal and steadfast Comrade Purple with one so he can protect the FESTER satellites. Of course, just as soon as I get transferred to an off-world assignment... (God, I just realized if the whole VENUSPLAN thing works out, someone's probably gonna be sent to administrate the drat thing. And I'm a major architect of the plan... gently caress, I'm from Minnesota, I wanted somewhere cold, I can't ice fish on Venus!  )
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January 31, 1983 The second Karzelek returns to Earth. The officers and crew of the expedition are honored in a ceremony on Ascension Island, and then immediately sent back to their ships, officially to perform needed maintenance. The powerful geosurvey sensors are powered up and the ships are put to work sweeping Earth's oceans in slow, meticulous, minute detail. February 6, 1983 The Comintern's orbiting civilian shipyard stations add a pair of additional slipways. The stations, originally very rudimentary structures built out of leftover pre-TNE spaceflight hardware like fuel tanks and spent solid rocket boosters, have in a few short years transformed into huge purpose-built complexes. Orbital shipbuilding is still a crude technology, in its infancy, and much of the work is still done by hand or with very basic remote-controlled technology such as manipulator arms and drones. Within the severe limitations of the current technology, Comintern shipbuilders are growing more and more skilled and efficient with each vessel that clears the yards. February 9, 1983  The hastily-built, slapdash spacecraft that surveyed the Mars ruins, which have now been in orbit for nearly a year, are starting to experience maintenance issues. While this is well within their operational parameters and they still have spares and consumables for two more years of operation if need be, the decision is made to bring them back to Earth for shore leave and maintenance. A Proton-Electron pair is already under construction, and when completed will be deployed to Mars in their place, with the Cydonia Expedition ships being deployed to the Moon. They will remain in orbit of Mars until the Tranquility has safely loaded her precious cargo, then set sail for Earth.  The Hawaiian orbital yard launches a second commissioned spacecraft for the AAA, this one a passenger liner. The design is based on the Hawaiian Queens, but with a few years of iterative technological refinement. The resulting ship is faster, longer-ranged, and more efficiently laid out, massing over 1,500 tons less than the Queens despite having the same rated passenger capacity. The ship is crewed mostly by NOMADs, and is put into service on the busy Earth-Luna passenger line. February 10, 1983  While they obviously must have done so, none of the Cyclops or U-Boat crew actually remember going into space. The last thing any of them remember is a bright light. The prospect of climbing onto the Tranquility's landers and blasting off into orbit causes much anxiety and trepidation. The officers of the two abducted ships have been a great help. Eager for something to do, they have imposed strict discipline on their men and whipped them into something like military order, and the last month has been spend drilling, drilling, drilling - how to don and remove a space suit, how to strap into a crash couch, how to diagnose and fix various emergencies with suit or lander. Very little science has been done, the Cydonia team focused entirely on teaching these men from the past how to survive the present. Today is the moment of truth. Taking with them precious few personal effects, and a few important or valuable artifacts - the ship's logbooks, the bell from the Cyclops, the makeshift space suit they constructed - the approximately 330 men making the return trip board the landers to ascend, accompanied by about fifty Comintern personnel to monitor their health and well-being and help keep order. There are two landers, and between them they're able to cram everyone in to the long, low, squat craft. The captain of the Cyclops is in one, the captain of the German U-Boat in the other. The two landers light off their ascent engines and rise from the Martian surface almost simultaneously, at around mid-afternoon local time, everything lit with sunlight as bright as Mars gets. The crew, pressed into their chairs, watch the planet they've been trapped on for so long fall away beneath them, and a ragged cheer echoes through both craft as the sky begins to turn black - then, quickly, dies, as it at last fades to starlight. The Tranquility is one of the first human interplanetary spacecraft ever constructed. She was obsolete the moment she was built, with primitive chemical rocket engines, simple steel-and-aluminum hull construction, and a design consisting of little tin-can modules held together with truss and girders, giving the whole thing a skeletal appearance. To a 'modern' eye, though she is less than five years old, she looks like an antique. To the Cydonia survivors, she is the most impressive piece of human technology they have ever seen, and they are struck dumb as the ship looms in the landers' tiny windows. They are unable to contain a collective shout of anxiety as the landers make contact with the mothership, with a sharp jolt and a loud BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG-BANG as the docking port bolts engage. The captain of the Cyclops bellows at his crew to reestablish order, and calm quickly prevails as the passengers realize their Comintern companions seem to think everything is normal. A month isn't enough time to train people from the 1910s how to operate in space, all the effort was spent on keeping them from killing themselves the moment they exited the airlock onto the Martian surface. The crew were made aware of what to expect in zero-G, but that's entirely different from actually experiencing. Hans, the diver, has the least difficulty, relatively speaking, but even with his help it still takes a solid half hour to wrangle the over 300 confused, nauseous, spinning, yelling men into decent order and herd them onto the ship. It'll take even longer to teach them how to eat, how to sleep, how to poo poo - but, hey, there's plenty of time. The ship is designed to house 250 passengers in comfortable long-term accommodations, and nearly 400 is a bit much - but, even overcrowded, by the standards these men are used to, it's ridiculously spacious. Two weeks in this, to a German submariner? Why, it's practically paradise. About four hours after her charges are loaded, the Tranquility lights off her main engines on a course for Earth. February 13, 1983 Earth is very, very big, and mostly water, and a submarine is very, very small. Two weeks of fruitless searching have resulted in easily the most detailed map of the world's oceans humanity has ever possessed, but no ballistic missile submarine. They have located the Titanic, and the Bismarck. Frustration has begun to set in. The ships have been on rotating 12-hour shifts the whole time, 16 crew asleep, 16 awake. The Skarbnik is making a pass over the Pacific Ocean, at around two AM Ascension/shipboard time, when one of the sensor operators locates an anomaly. A few hundred miles off the coast of the People's Republic of California lies the wreck of the carrier USS Ranger, CV-61, in about 800 feet of water. A US loyalist holdout, the ship was destroyed by the Californians in their revolution's first, and to date only, major naval surface action. The wreck, and the wrecks of the two other US ships destroyed in the Californian anti-ship missile strike, are war graves and seldom visited. They have already been catalogued by the survey ships - but this time he can't shake the feeling something's off. The sensor operator makes an unusual request of the first officer. "Sir, do we have a copy of Jane's All the World's Fighting Ships, from 1967 or earlier?" They do not, this is a geological survey ship. He makes a further unusual request - that Ascension Island be radioed urgently to send all available information from the Internetwork about USS Ranger, because something is off. It is the urgency in the young man's voice that compels his superior to grant this request, and, within a few minutes, a very bored night shift operator at Mission Control has sent a few sheets of technical data, along with pages of useless historical info because the request was not specific. The young sensor operator compares the numbers on the printout to the numbers from the sensor pass, compares them again, then a third time. He looks to a sheet of paper taped to the console, a readout of the mass, shape, and composition of their quarry - then back to his printouts and CRT displays. He calls over another sensor operator, then the other two, then the geologist, then the first officer, who, after a few minutes of deliberation, wakes Ship Commander LostCosmonaut. LostCosmonaut enters the bridge to find the night crew crowded around the sensor consoles, one of them triumphantly circling something on a printout with a pencil. The data is unmistakable. Sitting there on the ocean floor, dangerously close to California, just meters above the wreck, and perilously close to her test depth, is the Resolution-class ballistic missile submarine HMS Revenge. The sensor operator who first made the discovery circles a line on the printout again and again, jubilantly, weeks of 12-hour shifts having finally paid off. "I got you, you fucker. We've got you." 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Question of the day: has she been there the whole time (as in, abandoned or dead for years) or has she just been hiding there while we’ve been looking for her?
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The coast of California is fairly well trafficked area, even a few hundred miles out. Well enough that it would be easy for a ship to discreetly gently plop some modified depth charges down and have them gingerly sink. They have to be running quiet, so that rules out active sonar. If we're really concerned, we could just have some civilian ship, uncrewed of course, be demolished by a "freak accident" in ear shot so they have something to distract them. Then once the charges are in place. Boom. Though on second though, it's probably more worthwhile to monitor it first for a few months. It may have the power to sit down there for all this time, but the people crewing it most certainly don't. It's going to have to get supplies somehow. If it is indeed still alive down there, it's best we figure out where the hell it's getting its supplies from. edit: read the wrong place Rubix Squid fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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The Lone Badger posted:Now, how do we take it out without missiles being launched? While capable of firing from underwater, we could expect a ship of that class from being able to so from perhaps 20 meters underwater, not several hundred. Moving from where it is right now to being able to launch would take significant time and doing. Destroying it should be fairly simple, but if you want things to be complicated: since it is stationary we could send a team of divers with some kind of odd moon pool or diving bell design to fit over the mast to enable them to board the thing Alternatively if we can keep a sensor on station for long enough we should catch them being resupplied eventually, they need to get food from somewhere. atelier morgan fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Jul 7, 2021 |
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Is it possible it’s been TNE modified in some way? If so then we do need to bear that in mind. Alternatively, how deep into water can an orbital Excalibur installation strike effectively?
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Why something brand new.? The Comintern must have submarines still. Creep a submarine in slow - even a stealthy diesel boat is enough. We've got time. Then drop a salvo of torpedoes on her, and add her to the gravesite.
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atelier morgan posted:Alternatively if we can keep a sensor on station for long enough we should catch them being resupplied eventually, they need to get food from somewhere. Would be nice to know who’s trying to gently caress us, yes.
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Kitfox88 posted:Would be nice to know who’s trying to gently caress us, yes. Also the reason why I think when we do finally take them out we should try to capture them, or at least do it in a way where we can salvage as much as possible from the resulting wreck.
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California!? What in the hell is it doing there? I expected the North Sea. It's an old British Navy ship, Gladio seems mostly concentrated in Europe, it's within striking distance of the heart of the Comintern's senior members. Why the eastern Pacific off the California coast? Also, it seems to be intentionally hiding amongst the wreckage of the USS Ranger, using it to disguise its sensor signature. How did they know to do that? They shouldn't have any idea we're doing orbital scans for them. Gentlemen, if my suspicions are right, either Gladio has made some very educated guesses as to our goings-on and are playing it very cautious... or we have a mole 
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Asterite34 posted:Also, it seems to be intentionally hiding amongst the wreckage of the USS Ranger, using it to disguise its sensor signature. How did they know to do that? They shouldn't have any idea we're doing orbital scans for them. It's more likely that hiding next to existing wrecks is just how they have stayed safe from pre-TN sonar/satellite detection in the past. Heck, it almost worked out for them, even with our contemporary sensor technology -- it took one sensor operator acting on a hunch, not to mention they'd already scanned the area once. Frankly, we got lucky.
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Welp, time to crash build some railguns in California.
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It wouldn't be particularly challenging to just blow the thing up, with conventional ASW weapons or another submarine or an impromptu test of our first orbital railgun. We should keep a close eye on it and blow the poo poo out of them if it looks like they're about to get away but it would be very nice to somehow capture the thing, not that I have any idea how to feasibly do that. Use whatever the Martians did to abduct the u-boat lol.
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Pirate Radar posted:Does anyone with pertinent submarine knowledge know if that boat can transmit or receive messages from that depth? Not easily. At 800 feet down, the only forms of communication that can directly reach a submarine are Extremely Low Frequency radio messages. Generating radiowaves on that frequency requires a transmitter with the ends very, very far apart.  As in, the transmitters themselves are fourteen-mile-wide crosses of cable, situated 140 miles distant. This is captured data from the American Project Sanguine proposal, which was never built -- the Soviets have their own facility, ZEVS, but that remains actually classified until ballistic submarines cease being a threat (which is to say, probably forever). Project Sanguine here is the scaled down version, as well -- the proposal talks about something like six thousand miles of cable draped across most of northern Wisconsin for the original. The scaled-down version would basically only be able to serve as a "bell ringer" to make submarines know they need to surface and pick up more detailed information via satellite or traditional radio -- and even the scaled-down version requires urban-grade power generation, precious little of which is left anywhere near the Project Sanguine site, to the dismay of our American comrades. More plausible would be Revenge having a comms buoy on eight hundred feet of cable. That could be raised to nearly or actually the surface depth, and receive other forms of communication that don't require a superpower to build the facility to broadcast them. That is much more detectable, of course, though even for our modern capabilities we're talking highly relatively. The only reason it seems like much more is because Revenge risks losing everything if they fail exactly one time and get detected -- perfection or nothing. They're at a depth which could crush WW2 submarines outright, in a part of the ocean no-one even dreamed of looking for them in, pretty much right on top of a supercarrier whose magnetic and sonar signatures could hide them from any form of detection in the world (indeed, OOC, there's precious little present-day technology that could find them in this scenario). This crew is doing everything beyond right, we've basically had to reinvent reality to find them. Asterite34 posted:Also, it seems to be intentionally hiding amongst the wreckage of the USS Ranger, using it to disguise its sensor signature. How did they know to do that? They shouldn't have any idea we're doing orbital scans for them. It's ideal for protecting them from sonar or magneto scans, the more conventional forms of naval detection. And even failing that, they could well have picked up on our scanning capabilities if they're at all tied in to the GLADIO network. I don't actually think Revenge is GLADIO's headquarters, for the record -- while they would be almost completely unlocatable without the most powerful sensor ever devised looking right at them AND having a human brain doing data analysis on the output, it's also a gigantic bastard to communicate out from there, which is not a great prospect for talking to operatives on any kind of regular basis. And honestly, if it's at all plausible to capture this thing and her crew, I'd very much like to. If only so I can shake the bastards' hands -- they may be capitalist die-hards, but what they're pulling off right now is genuinely impressive.
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I'm thinking the best way to deal with it is to nab it when it docks for resupply and to get whoever's doing said resupply too.
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NewMars posted:I'm thinking the best way to deal with it is to nab it when it docks for resupply and to get whoever's doing said resupply too. This is actually an excellent idea. Even a nuclear submarine can't go fifteen years without a fuel resupply, to say nothing of the need to keep the crew in supply (and a Resolution has a crew of 143). Either that sub is a silent tomb on the ocean floor full of emaciated skeletons in British Navy uniforms, or it's getting resupplied from somewhere.
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It'd likely be impossible to tell if there are any people alive on the Revenge from space. Our sensors are either EM or thermal. EM is out for detecting life signs, as humans don't have any particularly unique EM emissions. Thermal is much better for detecting life signs, except that the ocean is conveniently a gigantic heat sink. The best plan of action is probably just to watch them. Have the eggheads figure out how long Revenge can stay deployed without surfacing for supplies, and wait that long while keeping her under tabs. If they don't surface, then recovery options can be weighed. If they move, then we obviously track and potentially intercept then. I'm not sure it's worth tethering one of our geological survey ships to Earth for weeks or potentially months is a good idea, though.
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Not a headquarters, no, a Dead Man's Switch. My guess would be it receives regular updates from the Gladio pirate radio network, and it if ever doesn't receive an update, it's to assume the organization is hopelessly compromised and it's time to burn all their assets with whatever arsenal of fireworks that thing has. It's insurance that even if they fall they'll make a big splash on the way out. Gwyneth Palpate posted:I'm not sure it's worth tethering one of our geological survey ships to Earth for weeks or potentially months is a good idea, though. Why not? We've already done a mineral survey of every celestial body out to Neptune, what better assignment do they have right now?
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Though we also have to face the issue that we probably dont want them to know we found them, so we cant have FESTER constantly hovering overhead. Maybe we can say to the lower levels we think the Revenge might be at one of these several places keep an eye out, so while we can have coverage it wont be blindingly obvious.
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If we're reasonably certain the Revenge is being used as a dead man's trigger, we could try flushing it out. I don't think it's a good idea to do it by explicitly calling out that we have an idea where the sub is. Publicly disclosing that we found the Titanic would be more subtle, especially if we say we're going to be searching for other famous shipwrecks.
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