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Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
The amount of giving a poo poo about whether someone is ethnically pure on his page is pretty wild.

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Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

deoju posted:

That strikes me as a word that I as a white guy don't get to use. Like Uncle Tom or white wash, I don't get to define or classify somebody's blackness.

I'll still call an rear end in a top hat an rear end in a top hat as necessary though.

It's a term that a bunch of the people who subscribe to those beliefs self identify as.

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost

Coffee And Pie posted:

The amount of giving a poo poo about whether someone is ethnically pure on his page is pretty wild.

What the gently caress are you talking about?

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



He has some strong racist opinions about mix raced people.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Coffee And Pie posted:

The amount of giving a poo poo about whether someone is ethnically pure on his page is pretty wild.

what

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

deoju posted:

What the gently caress are you talking about?

Tariq Nasheed's legendarily weird, creepy Twitter page, I would assume.

In other news, Ronan Farrow did a long and horrifying deep dive into Britney's conservatorship for the New Yorker.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Oh, for some reason I misreas 'his' as 'this' and was really confused

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Alan Smithee posted:

it does sound like a slur yeah

but black nationalist doesnt seem to do it since it might sound too innocuous and going on a long sentence about how he's a specific flavor of black patriarchal afrocentirc-at-the-expense-of-others misogynist homophobe incel chauvinist alt right conspiracy theorist but black might take too long

I’m trying to think of what the white equivalent would be and it would be someone whose white male supremacy has a particular interest/root in either Roman, Greek or Nordic history, probably most like the latter because of the level of mysticism

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
Yeah, I meant Tariq’s Twitter page. Specifically the tweet about Zendaya and all the responses, plus a few others.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

DC Murderverse posted:

I’m trying to think of what the white equivalent would be and it would be someone whose white male supremacy has a particular interest/root in either Roman, Greek or Nordic history, probably most like the latter because of the level of mysticism

So Nazis

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Alan Smithee posted:

it does sound like a slur yeah

but black nationalist doesnt seem to do it since it might sound too innocuous and going on a long sentence about how he's a specific flavor of black patriarchal afrocentirc-at-the-expense-of-others misogynist homophobe incel chauvinist alt right conspiracy theorist but black might take too long

I give you leave to call these m9therfuckers hoteps

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
I think it's also a useful term because there are definitely black nationalists and black supremacists who don't go in for all of the same conspiracy and mysticism bullshit.

Like how not all white nationalists buy into the weirder parts of Qanon.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Much like how Nation of Islam iirc ended up basically a black themed franchise of Scientology, it's basically taking white supremacist rhetoric and flipping the script with some new aesthetics. Probably from black people spending too much time on Nazi boards and picking up the same beliefs and worldview but adjusted to be in their favor.

vvv: Measurehead is specifically a parody of hoteps and various fascist adjacent beliefs, though more focused on the pseudoscience angle.

Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 11:20 on Jul 4, 2021

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Probably from black people spending too much time on Nazi boards and picking up the same beliefs and worldview but adjusted to be in their favour.

In other words, Measurehead from Disco Elysium is real.

Nothing should surprise me anymore but here we are.

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Darth Walrus posted:

Tariq Nasheed's legendarily weird, creepy Twitter page, I would assume.

In other news, Ronan Farrow did a long and horrifying deep dive into Britney's conservatorship for the New Yorker.

I always assumed that Black Mirror episode with Miley Cyrus was inspired by Britney.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.

Grendels Dad posted:

I dunno, any kind of nationalist is extremely lovely so calling him a black nationalist seems fine.

i mean there's a pretty significant difference between national liberation movements and what people generally think of as "nationalism" lol

not to defend tariq, mind, but it's an important distinction elsewhere

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012




Tariq Nasheed literally believes homosexuality is a White person thing because they huddled in caves to avoid being cold.

Fellas, is it gay to not die of hypothermia?

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Tariq Nasheed literally believes homosexuality is a White person thing because they huddled in caves to avoid being cold.

Fellas, is it gay to not die of hypothermia?

Extremely

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Tariq Nasheed literally believes homosexuality is a White person thing because they huddled in caves to avoid being cold.

Fellas, is it gay to not die of hypothermia?

It's not gay if the snowballs aren't touching.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

It's a good thing only very specific parts of the world get cold.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Tariq Nasheed literally believes homosexuality is a White person thing because they huddled in caves to avoid being cold.

Fellas, is it gay to not die of hypothermia?

Great now my mind is filled with quotes from Arnold's Mr Freeze and they all have become incredibly sexy.

SilentChaz
Oct 5, 2011

Sorry, I'm quite busy at the moment.
Bill Cosby says Howard University "must support" Phylicia Rashad's "Freedom of Speech" in new statement

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I think my mass effect is broken

How does he feel about people saying “gently caress?”

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007


Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. She is free to say whatever she wants, other people are free to remind her she is supporting an admitted rapist.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


edogawa rando posted:

How does he feel about people saying “gently caress?”

That they should pull their drat pants up

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
All you need to know from that Dan Schneider article:

quote:

He is a fan of “Star Trek,”

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

Prince Myshkin posted:

All you need to know from that Dan Schneider article:

Something that's stuck in my mind was this interview with cops who had worked decades in vice and made dozens of child pornography busts, talking about how just about EVERY pedo they busted would be enough of a Trekkie to have some visible paraphernalia/collectors items/whatever in their home. Or the classic line from a cop, "We say there are two types of pedos: Star Trek, and Star Wars." Hoo boy.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


kaworu posted:

Something that's stuck in my mind was this interview with cops who had worked decades in vice and made dozens of child pornography busts, talking about how just about EVERY pedo they busted would be enough of a Trekkie to have some visible paraphernalia/collectors items/whatever in their home. Or the classic line from a cop, "We say there are two types of pedos: Star Trek, and Star Wars." Hoo boy.

Generally it's an aatrek joke.

Star Trek is a huge thing among geeks and if you have thousands of digital tapes of anything you are, among whatever other things, a huge geek.

It's worth remembering Jared from Subway didn't just incidentally get caught with child pornography, he had several terabytes. I imagine if the police did their due diligence they used his seized computer to work backwards and infiltrate/break up a bunch of the networks he used.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

kaworu posted:

Something that's stuck in my mind was this interview with cops who had worked decades in vice and made dozens of child pornography busts, talking about how just about EVERY pedo they busted would be enough of a Trekkie to have some visible paraphernalia/collectors items/whatever in their home. Or the classic line from a cop, "We say there are two types of pedos: Star Trek, and Star Wars." Hoo boy.

Aatrek and Aawars

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Not every Star Trek fan is a pedo, but every pedo is a Star Trek fan.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
You can take the pedo out of the Star Trek, but you can't take the Star Trek out of the pedo.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
I actually used to do forensic interviews for child victims and was on the sidelines of some pretty big investigations for child porn and honestly never really saw the star trek thing. What usually got me is how normal the people were. Like the myth of the giant gross nerd into child porn isn't that common but the first few times I went to get computers with a team I was always surprised when the door would open and some business man or normal looking teacher is standing there with the color draining from their faces.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
i imagine it's a boomer cop thing

like how sex workers wear leopard print

all pedos now are probably into pew die pie and homestuck

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
My previous job was involved in a child pedo sting operation involving collectible card game players and young children. After the operation we did wrap up interviews with the state police and from what I understand a lot of typical "nerd" things are enough to put you on a watch list.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Tracks in my area, we're at 3/5 of local game/comic store owners getting arrested for CP and 2/3 of local Con organizers.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Something to be said either for arrested development or seeking out hobbies and interests that give them excuses to be in contact with children. But then again, I imagine those are just the ones that get caught.

B-Rock452 posted:

I actually used to do forensic interviews for child victims and was on the sidelines of some pretty big investigations for child porn and honestly never really saw the star trek thing. What usually got me is how normal the people were. Like the myth of the giant gross nerd into child porn isn't that common but the first few times I went to get computers with a team I was always surprised when the door would open and some business man or normal looking teacher is standing there with the color draining from their faces.

It turns out this is most predators and criminals. The idea of the greasy cartoon villain goes back to literal phrenology and has always been bullshit that shifts the blame away from how respected, influential people are so often predators. (Say, Cosby, who was practically obsessed with being 'normal')

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


The truth is this: a pedophile can look like literally anyone. They come in all shapes and sizes and there's no one trait that unifies them. Same with rapists and people who commit other forms of sexual abuse.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
IIRC the Star Trek thing on SA came from 2 things: one was aatrek, and two, a goon citing an article from the Toronti Star where a cop basically said the "Not all Star Trek fans are pedos, but alot of the people we bust for CP are Star Trek fans".

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
And of course we know we can trust the word of cops.

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kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

El Gallinero Gros posted:

IIRC the Star Trek thing on SA came from 2 things: one was aatrek, and two, a goon citing an article from the Toronti Star where a cop basically said the "Not all Star Trek fans are pedos, but alot of the people we bust for CP are Star Trek fans".

It was something I encountered off SA and years before Aatrek was busted - or even modded, for that matter. Google suggests it was probably a Huffington Post linked article (probably the same one as from the Toronto Star) back in 2005 that I first read about it in.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pedophilia-and-star-trek_b_5857

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