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First of May posted:My siblings and I used to watch Captain Planet almost every day.
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Meanwhile my mom unironically let me play GTA and poo poo from like 10 years old onward because, and I quote, "I'm not a moron, I didn't raise a moron, he can tell what's real and what isn't." Jokes on her ultimately I guess because I'm a huge moron, but I never developed any desire or appreciation for mass murder or misogyny so she was at least half right.
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PinheadSlim posted:Meanwhile my mom unironically let me play GTA and poo poo from like 10 years old onward because, and I quote, "I'm not a moron, I didn't raise a moron, he can tell what's real and what isn't." I was allowed to use the internet completely unsupervised as a pre-teen because it was 1995 and no one knew any better. Did I see horrifying pornography and violence? Oh yes. Did it warp me? Probably!
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Jul 3, 2021 14:48
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:Wait... really?? This seems like a joke but then again I know of plenty of 90's parents who got offended by the most mundane stuff on TV. Now I'm laughing at the idea of Homer in the kiddie pool being someone's breaking point. Yeah I think his mom interpreted Homer searching for a hot dog in the pool as a sex joke, although I’m pretty sure the intent was just Homer eating gross food. Same kid got marched out of Austin Powers during the hot tub scene. He had a rough childhood.
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Jul 3, 2021 16:34
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Wouldn't it be easier to just not have children then be concerned with every piece of media that exists or may exist and them watching it?
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Jul 3, 2021 17:39
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Outpost22 posted:Wouldn't it be easier to just not have children then be concerned with every piece of media that exists or may exist and them watching it? The thing is about boomers and gen x is that having children was just something you were supposed to do And that should explain a lot
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Jul 3, 2021 17:42
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I never was outright banned from anything by my parents but my dad would chide my elementary/junior high love of South Park by pointing out they were right wing reactionary assholes just hiding behind some fake libertarian "we make fun of both sides" bullshit. I didnt believe him at the time but it wasnt long before it was loving obvious.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I never was outright banned from anything by my parents but my dad would chide my elementary/junior high love of South Park by pointing out they were right wing reactionary assholes just hiding behind some fake libertarian "we make fun of both sides" bullshit. your dad sounds rad
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Jul 4, 2021 21:32
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a lot of anime use 60 fps in certain situations: https://youtu.be/AUcJumKRIjM?t=451 look at the way goku's energy is blowing the wind and rocks on broly's face also the way goku's aura is pulsating at 7:41 Cemetry Gator posted:I think it's harder to identify this mindset in the past because the movies, music, and TV shows that hold up aren't the same as the most popular of the era. quick aside: avatar is one of the strangest phenomena. it's the top grossing movie of all time (right? or did one of the avengerses beat it?), but i have literally never met a single person that actually likes or is interested in the film. it never gets brought up for anything aside for its visuals (which i personally didn't think were that impressive to begin with). for something so popular you'd think there'd be more fans.
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Mr Interweb posted:quick aside: avatar is one of the strangest phenomena. it's the top grossing movie of all time (right? or did one of the avengerses beat it?), but i have literally never met a single person that actually likes or is interested in the film. it never gets brought up for anything aside for its visuals (which i personally didn't think were that impressive to begin with). for something so popular you'd think there'd be more fans. Avengers Endgame got the number one spot for a bit but then there was some rerelease of Avatar that saw it go back to first place. It was mostly popular because it was supposed to be the film that made the case for 3D cinema. It got huge box office because it was event cinema (which in fairness Avengers was too, being the culmination of a huge franchise) That said I'm sure I remember seeing something on these very forums about Avatar fans who painted themselves blue and claimed they had PTSD from not living on Pandora. I'd guess there's a relatively small group of superfans who saw it over and over.
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CodfishCartographer posted:Obviously making a 60 FPS animation is a fuckton of work and money so I'm not surprised nobody wants to do it, but I'm shocked to see so much pushback from animators that it would be terrible. You could theoretically make a 60 FPS 2D animation that looks perfect but it's exponentially more work and there's zero chance there'll ever be an animation team with enough skill and time to make it work. The more inbetween frames you have, the better each one has to look individually and the more noticeable inconsistencies are between the frames, so to make something at 60 frames per second look as good as something at 24 FPS you need every single frame to be consistent to a level you won't get out of anybody but the most experienced and skilled animators. So "it would be terrible" means "there's no way to make it worth doing because doing it is ridiculously far out of the bounds of practicality." Machine-learning based motion interpolation is honestly probably the only way you could do 60fps in a way that wouldn't be waste of time, money, and animators' sanity, just because a machine can do smooth inbetweens that don't visibly gently caress up the sizes of objects. But you're still gonna be removing frames and reducing the FPS in parts to fix the snappier motions, in addition to just fixing the weird cases where the algorithim fucks up and misinterprets something.
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Party Boat posted:It was mostly popular because it was supposed to be the film that made the case for 3D cinema. It got huge box office because it was event cinema (which in fairness Avengers was too, being the culmination of a huge franchise) People forget how good it looked. Imax 3D Avatar looked so amazing that it didn't matter how half-baked the story/characters were. But you look back on it today and it's impossible to watch it under the conditions that made it a huge hit and you go "That's it? That's the biggest movie ever?"
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Jul 5, 2021 17:23
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PostNouveau posted:People forget how good it looked. Imax 3D Avatar looked so amazing that it didn't matter how half-baked the story/characters were. But you look back on it today and it's impossible to watch it under the conditions that made it a huge hit and you go "That's it? That's the biggest movie ever?" Yeah it’s not awful but I tried putting it on a few months ago and got bored. Whole lotta blue people finding magical CGI flowers. It doesn’t look bad in 2021 but video games have surpassed it so it’s not enough to cover for the iffy story anymore. The space marines are the most interesting part.
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I think part of Avatar's success is also the word of mouth / post-release hype around it. I'm sure there were tons of people who had zero interest in seeing it, but then heard about how amazing and revolutionary it was / looked and thus figured "hey, this might be a big deal, I should go see it" poo poo, I remember at the time plenty of people were saying "That's it?" - even though the CGI was very beautiful compare to its contemporaries, there was no shortage of criticisms at the time.
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Avatar's setting was like babby's first xenofiction and anyone who thought the planet was the ideal world to live in is either super super depressed at our current world and would obsess over any vaguely realized fictional world, and/or has never consumed media not set on earth before. Boring rear end earth but everyone has six legs! Flowers can glow! Wow! Cameron was really just out there doing a story about magic native americans rallying all the beasts of America to defeat the British right down to the "the native americans can communicate with the trees and the wild animals! a white guy goes native and saves them from the colonizers!" Also my parents let me watch Simpsons, encouraged me to watch Simpsons, as a tiny child my father and I would talk to one another in Simpsons quotes. But my family also let me watch cartoons like Aeon Flux, and my favorite movie as a child was Rocky Horror Picture Show, so I think this is probably atypical. FlocksOfMice fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jul 5, 2021 |
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Jul 5, 2021 19:13
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Avatar in the imax 3D cinema was like an amusement park ride - I can’t tell you a thing about the story but the 3D effects were incredible, it was pure spectacle and a huge standout from the graphics of the time. Without that specific 3D big screen environment it’s about as entertaining as watching a mediocre video game cutscene montage.
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Jul 5, 2021 19:36
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“unobtanium” Like, that poo poo makes me laugh at how juvenile such a word sounds. It’s babby’s first sci-fi term for something elusive. 
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Jul 5, 2021 19:57
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Oh my lord I forgot about that. Jesus christ
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You Are A Elf posted:“unobtanium” its a term actual engineers use for hypothetical materials
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You Are A Elf posted:“unobtanium” It would have been less embarrassing if the mineral had been called "[PLACEHOLDER TO BE DETERMINED]."
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My parents (let's face it, my mum made all those sorts of decisions...) were pretty liberal and never gave the tiniest bit of credence to any of the 90s moral panics and basically taught and trusted their kids to not go on stupid bits of the internet (although I ended up finding this place...) The one exception was that mum forbade my sister or I from watching The Simpsons. We couldn't even get it at home when it first arrived in the UK since we didn't have Sky, but we were under strict instructions not to watch it round friends' houses. I have no idea what she thought was so terrible about it (she steadfastly denies that she was ever such a pearl-clutcher now). We were allowed to watch stuff just as (if not more) subversive and 'gritty'. A few years later she had no problem with South Park - she thought it was infantile garbage but we were allowed to watch it. I can only assume she'd caught some drift of how middle America was up in arms about this awful cartoon that was corrupting the Western world's moral values and thought that it must be shockingly depraved rather than 'the kid's a proud underachiever, the Dad's a bit of a slob and there are satirical swipes at American institutions.' The ban was lifted when we went on a holiday to a resort in Turkey one summer. There was a lounge space where the older kids could watch TV in the evenings under loose supervision and there were some Simpsons VHSs there. Mum watched 10 minutes of one episode (pretty sure it was the Stonecutters one), said we could keep watching them and left. A few years later they were running the Simpsons on BBC2 at 6.30 in the evening just after Neighbours. Hardly the mark of a show that's going to corrupt the nation's youth. You Are A Elf posted:“unobtanium” But we're in a world where beloved techbros like Elon Musk put Spaceballs references into their cars and name them so the complete range spells out 'S3XY'. It's not so hard to believe that some lovely Silicon Valley corporation that found a new rare element would name it Unobtainium. At least not as hard as it was in 2009.
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I always thought it would be a hilarious practical joke on humanity if someone invented the principles of like a transporter or holodeck or something and couldn’t ever get funding and was dismissed as a crackpot because it sounded too much like something from Star Trek
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Jul 5, 2021 21:37
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My mom didn't let me watch Power Rangers, I guess she was afraid of me becoming a teenager with attitude.
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My parents never had issues with us kids watching The Simpsons, but my mom preferred Beavis and Butt-Head and would actively watch that with us. Her favorite episode was where they found roadkill and tried to sell it as a fur at the mall. Mom loves crass humor.
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Jul 5, 2021 22:17
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I think part of the moral panic about the Simpsons was it was an animated show that wasn't necessarily aimed at children, which was unusual if not unprecedented at the time.
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Jul 5, 2021 22:24
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PostNouveau posted:I think part of the moral panic about the Simpsons was it was an animated show that wasn't necessarily aimed at children, which was unusual if not unprecedented at the time. It wasn't unprecedented. The Flintstones was an adult-oriented cartoon. It was unusual, though.
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Das Boo posted:My parents never had issues with us kids watching The Simpsons, but my mom preferred Beavis and Butt-Head and would actively watch that with us. Her favorite episode was where they found roadkill and tried to sell it as a fur at the mall. Your mom rules
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Jul 5, 2021 22:33
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Data Graham posted:Your mom rules Just got her into Always Sunny. Times is good. 
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Mine has started watching MST3K.  She has also apparently exited the Trump era as some kind of revolutionary anarchist who was worried I had emerged not left enough so
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CodfishCartographer posted:I'm shocked to see so much pushback from animators that it would be terrible. Every art is full of insufferable experts gatekeeping and looking down on people and ideas, but in my experience animation is the one with the most of it. I'm just glad we've stopped listening to John K.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:It wasn't unprecedented. The Flintstones was an adult-oriented cartoon. It was unusual, though. Not unprecedented, sure. Animated or not, it was the first tv show to portray a married couple in the bed. But Flintstones eventually did turn into a full blown kids show and wackier around when Pebbles was born.
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Has anyone read Springfield Confidential? I did this weekend and anyway it loving sucks.
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mactheknife posted:Has anyone read Springfield Confidential? I did this weekend and anyway it loving sucks. Why does it suck?
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Jul 6, 2021 18:05
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PostNouveau posted:Why does it suck? Reiss is pretty incapable of letting more than a sentence or two go by without cramming in a joke, most of which are extremely unfunny. He gets very stupid about Apu, says some stupid poo poo about the current seasons. The bits about The Critic are decent though!
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My parents wouldn’t buy me a GameCube because they thought video games would make me an idiot The joke was on them though I won a GameCube in a competition and now I’m an idiot
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mactheknife posted:Reiss is pretty incapable of letting more than a sentence or two go by without cramming in a joke, most of which are extremely unfunny. He gets very stupid about Apu, says some stupid poo poo about the current seasons. The bits about The Critic are decent though! I tried reading it but gave up for the same reason. I don't really care if Harry Shearer wants to do the Apu voice or not but his take was like, weirdly personal and he was hung up on it.
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what started the whole apu voice controversy again? my memory's fuzzy but i recall it was otherwise a reasonable complaint but lots of people (including shearer) got super angry about it
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Wasn't it that documentary, The Problem With Apu? And didn't they end up just removing him entirely? I feel like Apu had enough character to work with to keep him in the show without making his ethnicity the punchline. Now we're just minus a PoC. Which considering it's modern Simpsons, good for him.
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Mr Interweb posted:what started the whole apu voice controversy again? my memory's fuzzy but i recall it was otherwise a reasonable complaint but lots of people (including shearer) got super angry about it The original complaint was that having an indian character be voiced by a white guy putting on a stereotypical accent doesn't fly in the 21st century. Same stuff has come up for the black characters (minus the accent part) hence them changing voice actors for Carl, Hibbert etc.
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