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I recently read Record of Ragnarok following the Netflix slideshow controversy and while on paper it sounded - and looked - like it would have the same appeal as Kengan I completely checked out of it except for a few key moments. On the other hand I eat Kengan up. I wonder what the distinction is? Some of the Kengan abilities are just as made up as the god/human powers in Record.
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 21:58 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 01:31 |
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how far into record of ragnarok did you get? like if you didn't get into it fair enough but the first fight isn't very good imo
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 22:17 |
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Kengan has considerably better art, so that's one element that I could see affecting things. edit: not that the art in Ragnarok is bad by any means; Kengan Ashura just has unusually good action art
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# ? Jul 2, 2021 22:55 |
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Jose posted:how far into record of ragnarok did you get? like if you didn't get into it fair enough but the first fight isn't very good imo I read all of it that is currently available. Several of the fight matchups were genuinely interesting conceptually but it was hard to be invested in most of the characters. To be fair to Ragnarok, it might be because Kengan has a veneer of realism to most (okay, some) of the martial arts whereas in Ragnarok everyone's powers are completely fictional and busted. I don't want to hijack the Kengan thread with RoR discussion but I thoroughly enjoyed the Adam and Zeus fight until the final moments, Sasaki and Poseidon was alright, everything else I had a hard time caring about. Zodack fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Jul 2, 2021 |
# ? Jul 2, 2021 23:02 |
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the lack of a protagonist gives the plot a certain amount of weightlessness, i think. it's not really important to me who wins or loses when there's a maximum of one chapter's lead time between a character being introduced and their fight
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 02:51 |
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Kengan Asura usually made a point of trying to introduce characters before they step into the ring, so readers can experience some setup for the character that doesn't come from pre-battle banter, mid-fight flashbacks, and ringside spectator exposition. RoR doesn't do that, choosing instead to keep most of the fighters as mysterious as possible until the moment they enter the ring. And Omega isn't so good about it either, which makes it a lot harder to get attached to the Purgatory characters.
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 06:30 |
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in retrospect that boat trip arc in kengan asura was insanely important to giving it the impact it had
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 07:05 |
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Venuz Patrol posted:in retrospect that boat trip arc in kengan asura was insanely important to giving it the impact it had In contrast I am finding the writing very stale in Omega. Too much in-fight flashbacks and not enough of old classics.
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 09:29 |
Kengan vs Purgatory really should have been like 5v5 or 7v7 or something instead of this many.
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# ? Jul 3, 2021 13:19 |
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I think its important to remember in asura we had multiple rounds over multiple days, Really i'm treating this whole tournament here as merely Round 1 of whatever the larger story is going to be for Omega, I don't feel like the last fight is going to be a climax to close off this "series" the same way that Ohma vs Gensai was for Asura.
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 05:24 |
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We had an entire period of random rear end tournament fights in parking garages and poo poo, then the boat fight, and all sorts of other poo poo before we got to the proper final tournament of Asura. I'm positive the same thing is happening here.
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 11:23 |
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just got done reading all of this over like 3 days, pretty cool how Purgatory found an Absolver. Okubo boutta get Folded
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 13:39 |
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It's funny how Alisa made a big fuss about Hayami wearing earpods, but Terashi openly wears a protective metal mask and it's NBD.
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 13:49 |
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Catpetter1981 posted:It's funny how Alisa made a big fuss about Hayami wearing earpods, but Terashi openly wears a protective metal mask and it's NBD. Poison is legal under Purgatory rules and they had Mike Meyers wearing a leather mask during an official mask. It's purgatory, I ain't gotta explain poo poo.
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 14:59 |
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Masks are allowed because they are cool and poo poo
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 19:50 |
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Earbuds could prevent fighters from hearing the referee's instructions and calls.
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 20:07 |
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Has any fighter listened to any ref in any Kengan match?
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# ? Jul 4, 2021 22:48 |
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That Guy Bob posted:Has any fighter listened to any ref in any Kengan match? That's why in these fight the refs are a joke because of all the dumb rules. Kengan dudes aren't used to refs interfering with life and death.
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# ? Jul 5, 2021 10:36 |
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Yeah even the refs themselves acknowledge that they don't have much use in an actual match. That said they have symbolic significance in that they mark the official beginning (and ending) of matches. Jun vs Kiozan and Nicholas vs Akoya aside. Guess there was also Gozo vs Wakatsuki though that's less sucker punching and more Gozo going "Don't try order superhumans around."
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# ? Jul 5, 2021 10:54 |
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Okubo is gonna get absolutely smoked isnt he
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# ? Jul 5, 2021 22:25 |
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I believe in Okubo, actually.
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# ? Jul 5, 2021 22:52 |
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don't they need every win now? I can see whoever goes last losing but if Okubo's out, then that'd impact the next couple of fights
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# ? Jul 5, 2021 23:34 |
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Current score is Purgatory 5, Kengan 4, 1 no contest- so if the Kengan Association wins 2 of the remaining 3, it'll end up as a tie, which is what I'm predicting
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# ? Jul 6, 2021 03:34 |
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a big twist would be the outcome of the tournament mattering at all.
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# ? Jul 6, 2021 03:38 |
My guess is whatever fight happens last ends up a no contest by whatever events makes the results not actually matter. Aside from that curious how these last ones shake out assuming the fights do finish.
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# ? Jul 6, 2021 06:14 |
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Zerilan posted:My guess is whatever fight happens last ends up a no contest by whatever events makes the results not actually matter. Aside from that curious how these last ones shake out assuming the fights do finish. I’m guessing Okubo loses and Wakatsuki vs Lolong is a tie, leaving the deciding match to be Ohma vs Fei. I hope I’m wrong though since this is a terribly boring outcome.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 01:04 |
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Im very pumped for Wakatsuki
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 01:09 |
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All I want is for just one of the 4 idiots to actually win a fight.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 01:14 |
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The problem is Tereshi is so downplayed that if he loses, even if it's a good fight- it's still like "oh, well he wasn't much anyway"
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 03:53 |
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RatHat posted:I’m guessing Okubo loses and Wakatsuki vs Lolong is a tie, leaving the deciding match to be Ohma vs Fei. I hope I’m wrong though since this is a terribly boring outcome. If purgatory wins one then ties another, they win overall I think. To have them tie It verbally, I think we need 2 Kengan wins and 1 Purgatory win.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 08:22 |
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Spuckuk posted:Okubo is gonna get absolutely smoked isnt he Nah, Okubo's been playing the long game. He spent the entire arc acting like a clown so he won't actually get clowned in the ring.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 14:19 |
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team overhead smash posted:If purgatory wins one then ties another, they win overall I think. To have them tie It verbally, I think we need 2 Kengan wins and 1 Purgatory win. Oh wait you’re right, Purgatory is one ahead right now.
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# ? Jul 7, 2021 14:49 |
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Well then https://manga4life.com/read-online/Kengan-Omega-chapter-116.html
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 15:55 |
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Guess my Terashi is Nezu theory is probably not gonna happen.
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 16:05 |
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Yeees, Terashi is being baited into revealing his backstory first, Okubo's masterful strategy is working!
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 17:03 |
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It kind of looks like Terashi could be the Tiger's vessel. His resilience seems similar to the Adamantine Kata, and the way he's setting up his hand looks like he might be preparing for Weeping Willow, which would explain why Okubo is so instinctually wary. It might also explain his lack of experience with 'modern' martial arts - the Niko style focuses on the katas, not a general system of movements.
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 20:00 |
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Julius is wearing a tank top!!
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 20:19 |
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that just means Julius has joined the Tank Topper Army
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 21:18 |
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Jo Joestar posted:It kind of looks like Terashi could be the Tiger's vessel. His resilience seems similar to the Adamantine Kata, and the way he's setting up his hand looks like he might be preparing for Weeping Willow, which would explain why Okubo is so instinctually wary. It might also explain his lack of experience with 'modern' martial arts - the Niko style focuses on the katas, not a general system of movements. the long min connection too
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 21:31 |
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Jo Joestar posted:It kind of looks like Terashi could be the Tiger's vessel. His resilience seems similar to the Adamantine Kata, and the way he's setting up his hand looks like he might be preparing for Weeping Willow, which would explain why Okubo is so instinctually wary. It might also explain his lack of experience with 'modern' martial arts - the Niko style focuses on the katas, not a general system of movements. I think it's Clone Bando's super flexibility mixed with a variant of impact redirection. There's weird marks around his feet on the 2nd to last page which makes me think he's dispersing the damage downwards somehow. I also don't think Okubo is wary of a weeping willow given how Terashi so far isn't bothering to use a martial arts and even derides the idea his closing comments. I'm not letting this go, Terashi is going to do some freaky body poo poo next chapter and then the mask comes off.
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# ? Jul 9, 2021 22:57 |