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I wouldn't be surprised if it just tells you the actual player number and just always have 128 "soldiers" on the battlefield at any one time. Makes the most sense to me at least.
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It's a perfect opportunity to balance by player count instead of by skill level. Just give one team more real people, let the other team throw more bodies at the problem.
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Jul 14, 2021 18:53
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Its gonna be hilarious when the hackusations start happening against bots
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Jul 14, 2021 18:53
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Symetrique posted:Its gonna be hilarious when the hackusations start happening against bots Funny thing I can see it happening. I've been following players like Silk and every single video someone cries hacker in chat when they use a vehicle.
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Jul 14, 2021 18:55
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I wouldn't mind if the servers are just always full (though maybe also have a separate counter when you view the server page that will tell you how many are actual players and how many are bots) because I think that will be helpful for loners like me that just want to train a bit or do stupid unlock assignments without fear of letting my team down. did BFV even have any dumb super, secret, awesome unlocks like the bow in BF4 or the SAA revolver in BF1?
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Jul 14, 2021 18:55
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Aces High posted:I wouldn't mind if the servers are just always full (though maybe also have a separate counter when you view the server page that will tell you how many are actual players and how many are bots) because I think that will be helpful for loners like me that just want to train a bit or do stupid unlock assignments without fear of letting my team down. the best BFV secret weapon was the reverse gear in a tank at the start of a round
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Jul 14, 2021 18:58
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Aces High posted:I wouldn't mind if the servers are just always full (though maybe also have a separate counter when you view the server page that will tell you how many are actual players and how many are bots) because I think that will be helpful for loners like me that just want to train a bit or do stupid unlock assignments without fear of letting my team down. Iirc they said that you can unlock stuff in the "PVE" modes against bots. So you're in luck!
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Jul 14, 2021 18:59
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If DICE hasn’t already realized internally that yes everyone (including me) actually will be carrying rocket launchers instead of health or ammo they are just as incompetent as I already believe they are.
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Jul 14, 2021 18:59
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Sab669 posted:I'm curious how the server browser will display these bots. Will every server display 128/128, and then just kill bots as players load in? Or will it show 91/128 and then you load in and there's 46 dudes on one team and 45 dudes + a bot on another? i think the point of the bots is to backfill the whole server. In this case it would be 46 dudes + 18 bots vs 45 dudes + 19 bots. So just look at how many real players are missing, and thats how many bots there are
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Jul 14, 2021 19:01
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Aces High posted:did BFV even have any dumb super, secret, awesome unlocks like the bow in BF4 gently caress bows especially if they are magically 1HKOs
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Jul 14, 2021 19:01
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Kibayasu posted:If DICE hasn’t already realized internally that yes everyone (including me) actually will be carrying rocket launchers instead of health or ammo they are just as incompetent as I already believe they are. ya no one is going to carry ammo or health. Itd be cool if everyone got one aggressive gadget and one support gadget so at least no one has to justify taking spotting balls over rocket launchers or whatever
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Jul 14, 2021 19:03
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:ya no one is going to carry ammo or health. Itd be cool if everyone got one aggressive gadget and one support gadget so at least no one has to justify taking spotting balls over rocket launchers or whatever It does sound like stuff like magic balls and grappling hooks could be a separate slot but putting health and ammo in the same slot as a rocket launcher is just incredibly dumb.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:15
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Kibayasu posted:If DICE hasn’t already realized internally that yes everyone (including me) actually will be carrying rocket launchers instead of health or ammo they are just as incompetent as I already believe they are. now now, i'm sure some people will be taking c4 instead
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Jul 14, 2021 19:15
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If I don't get 15 rockets a life what's even the point
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Jul 14, 2021 19:16
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Kibayasu posted:It does sound like stuff like magic balls and grappling hooks could be a separate slot but putting health and ammo in the same slot as a rocket launcher is just incredibly dumb. i hope to god that they still have the ammo/health crates at flags that were reintroduced in BFV so I dont have to rely on my dipshit teammates to keep myself topped up Jenny Agutter posted:now now, i'm sure some people will be taking c4 instead c4 is in the grenade slot now so I can safely take that with every loadout ill make
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Jul 14, 2021 19:18
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It does honestly make me worry a little bit about how bad the vehicle spam got internally that everyone having access to a launcher was the sane option.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:19
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Orv posted:It does honestly make me worry a little bit about how bad the vehicle spam got internally that everyone having access to a launcher was the sane option. theyre just continuing what they started in BFV when maps had barely any vehicles and the best anti-infantry class also happened to be the one with rocket-launchers and dynamite
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Jul 14, 2021 19:22
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It's gonna take 8 rockets to kill a tank and everyone is going to spawn with like 2, so I fully expect chat to complain endlessly about the lack of ammo carriers. Pub stomper squads will have a dedicated supplier and just dominate servers simply by having access to ammo. I can't tell if this is a good or bad thing.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:23
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Propaganda Hour posted:It's gonna take 8 rockets to kill a tank and everyone is going to spawn with like 2, so I fully expect chat to complain endlessly about the lack of ammo carriers. Pub stomper squads will have a dedicated supplier and just dominate servers simply by having access to ammo. It's probably better than having 265-1 chopper games.
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Jul 14, 2021 19:37
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Sounds good to me assuming goons actually play together. Because the two of you who added me on Origin recently for BF4 action, I haven't even seen online never mind playing 
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Jul 14, 2021 19:38
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We're too busy having fun in Battlefield 1
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Jul 14, 2021 19:54
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I actually really liked World War 3 for the five minutes it had a playerbase but lmao at how much they're just straight up jacking from 2042 here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZAufZye5L8
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Jul 14, 2021 20:03
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I fail to see how everyone carrying rockets and never having ammo is somehow different from your average BF4 match
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Jul 14, 2021 20:10
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Insert name here posted:I fail to see how everyone carrying rockets and never having ammo is somehow different from your average BF4 match Weapons being tied to class meant that you'd get at least some variety from people messing around with other weapons.
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Jul 14, 2021 20:44
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Orv posted:I actually really liked World War 3 for the five minutes it had a playerbase but lmao at how much they're just straight up jacking from 2042 here. As for 2042, I think the bot thing is a bad idea. Like sure, let players play matches offline with bots, but why mix them in with the multiplayer mode? Who wants that?
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Jul 14, 2021 20:48
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Rusty posted:I was looking forward to this game, and then it launched and didn't work for like a week and then no one played it, I had no idea it was still around. Because playing 10v10 while you wait for a server to fill on a 5+km² map meant for 64v64 sounds absolutely garbage
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Jul 14, 2021 20:50
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jisforjosh posted:Because playing 10v10 while you wait for a server to fill on a 5+km² map meant for 64v64 sounds absolutely garbage
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Jul 14, 2021 20:55
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Rusty posted:why would it take more than a few minutes to fill a server? I mean maybe years down the line it would make sense, but there will be hundreds of full servers, I guess my point is a could live with a 50v50 match with no bots versus a 64v64 with 28 bots. I mean isn't your own supposition that you wouldn't have to have a server with bots since everything will just fill to max quickly enough anyway? Not trying to gotcha, necessarily, that is the ideal. Ultimately the average BF rando is so goddamn useless that I'm not sure there'll be much difference.
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Jul 14, 2021 20:57
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Orv posted:I mean isn't your own supposition that you wouldn't have to have a server with bots since everything will just fill to max quickly enough anyway?
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Jul 14, 2021 20:59
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Vagabong posted:Weapons being tied to class meant that you'd get at least some variety from people messing around with other weapons. Yeah, I'm hoping they implement some sort of weight, tier, or point based pool to limit dudes running around with assault rifles, rockets, and explosives
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Jul 14, 2021 21:02
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128 feels like a number must go up decision. Getting a 64 player server full can be difficult at times and no amount of bots will help improve the experience if 2/3rds of the human team drops out because they are losing.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:06
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Hopper posted:128 feels like a number must go up decision. I dunno, some of those self-learning bot tests in BF1 looked like they were more competent than your average pubbie.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:09
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Bots mean I can feel better about my kill death ratio which otherwise reads like a breathalyzer result.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:10
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Vagabong posted:Weapons being tied to class meant that you'd get at least some variety from people messing around with other weapons. Yeah I feel it's weird that they're tying each specialist into the traditional roles (medic/engi/recon/support) but not limiting their gadgets. I'm 100% for them unlocking your primary weapon from your role (Being stuck with lever actions at best for Recon at BFV's launch, complete with how bad flares were after BF1, loving sucked for close range) but I feel the gadgets should be at least role-locked (with the super special skill being specific specialist locked). I'll wait and see though. On the complete opposite side: If the bots push the objectives and find a happy median between "aimbot" and "worthless" I'm all for those. Them being there puts an excellent sense of pressure on the points you've captured. I didn't play the modern one but the old Star Wars Battlefront games had AI bots in them and they were pretty fun. They're excellent for keeping large parts of the map from feeling abandoned.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:15
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Hopper posted:128 feels like a number must go up decision. I kinda get this, but also I can totally see developers saying, "Why NOT take advantage of all the resources we have and do even bigger, whackier, crazier poo poo than ever before?"
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Jul 14, 2021 21:20
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Rusty posted:I was looking forward to this game, and then it launched and didn't work for like a week and then no one played it, I had no idea it was still around. I think they were bought by, let's say, Tencent, then went dark for a year or so and this is their big return.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:25
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Mordja posted:I think they were bought by, let's say, Tencent, then went dark for a year or so and this is their big return. My.Games, Russian Tencent.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:29
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I haven't played a Battlefield in a while but are vehicles still capped at 6 occupants? They should definitely double that for the 128 increase. Having APCs and transport craft with lots of people inside would rule.
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Jul 14, 2021 21:37
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SpartanIvy posted:I haven't played a Battlefield in a while but are vehicles still capped at 6 occupants? They should definitely double that for the 128 increase. Having APCs and transport craft with lots of people inside would rule. We don't know and won't until next week
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I was also curious about that. Seems likely there will be multiple "classes" of vehicles that can hold varying amounts of people.
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