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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3dJb4TZNQE Seems to have some screenshots (mockups) we haven't seen yet along with new details. All the images capped here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/victoria-3-monthly-update-1-july.1483005/ Vivian Darkbloom fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 15, 2021 |
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 It's interesting how Peasants and Farmers are distinct pop types here
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Jul 15, 2021 17:35
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Didn't they already say that Peasants are basically Serfs at some point? Presumably then Farmers are 'free' employed farmers.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:37
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Takanago posted:
I believe it was written in an earlier diary that peasants represent people in subsistence agriculture and that a big part of the game is moving them to more productive jobs over time. Farmer probably represents a higher efficiency form of agriculture.
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Jul 15, 2021 17:38
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 Finally, the pie charts return.
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Jul 15, 2021 18:06
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AnoHito posted:Finally, the pie charts return.
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Jul 15, 2021 18:10
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AnoHito posted:
I like how Aristocrats are barely visible on the population graph but they're the 2nd biggest chunk on the political strength graph
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Jul 15, 2021 18:21
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I am so desperate for the pie charts and trains please just make it early access now
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Jul 15, 2021 18:24
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drat, lots of cool screenshots. I'm looking forward to when they explain the buy orders / sell orders thing. The positive and negative balance makes sense in the context of a single market, but when and how do other markets fit in? (maybe trade routes are gonna impose pretty strict limits on how goods move between markets as a way of stopping constant global economy crashing shenanigans) Also what do urban centres actually do? They appear with urbanisation and employ shopkeepers, but are they just an extra tax income? Do they produce something? Would be cool if they increased political engagement.
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Jul 15, 2021 18:55
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fuf posted:Also what do urban centres actually do? They appear with urbanisation and employ shopkeepers, but are they just an extra tax income? Do they produce something? Would be cool if they increased political engagement. quote:Another special type of building is Urban Centers. Like Subsistence Buildings, these are automatically created rather than built, with the level of Urban Center in a State being tied to the amount of Urbanization generated by its other buildings. Urban Centers primarily employ Shopkeepers and provide a number of important local functions that we will get into at a later point.
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Jul 15, 2021 19:00
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I miss the little people. The icons are not doing it for me
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Jul 15, 2021 19:15
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Am I imagining it or do the portraits for the starving pops have hollow / gaunt cheeks?
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Jul 15, 2021 19:25
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you need to buy tickets to transport stuff by rail
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Jul 15, 2021 19:29
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Aren't Pie charts frowned upon nowadays, at least in the world of data science?
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Jul 15, 2021 19:36
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Who the hell cares what a data scientist says
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Jul 15, 2021 19:37
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Gaius Marius posted:Who the hell cares what a data scientist says You can't use pie charts, they hurt the data scientists' feelings! <  >
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Jul 15, 2021 19:39
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fuf posted:Am I imagining it or do the portraits for the starving pops have hollow / gaunt cheeks? No, they look starving to me.
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Jul 15, 2021 19:49
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The fact that they feel a need to have those numbers for the top 3 underneath kinda prove that the pie chart sucks at conveying useful information. In the same space they're currently using, bar charts would be able to provide more easily read information on more groups. It could be that the detailed list has that, though then a player might want a way for the detailed list to always be the one that opens first.
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Jul 15, 2021 20:21
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DrSunshine posted:Aren't Pie charts frowned upon nowadays, at least in the world of data science? 
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Jul 15, 2021 20:54
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The fact that they feel a need to have those numbers for the top 3 underneath kinda prove that the pie chart sucks at conveying useful information. In the same space they're currently using, bar charts would be able to provide more easily read information on more groups. I disagree, bar chart in that small space would be less readable. It would be crowded with all the smaller slices that would have very short bars
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Jul 15, 2021 21:49
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The pie charts aren't for conveying useful information, they're for looking cool and enjoying watching the pie chart fill out the way you want it.
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Jul 15, 2021 21:57
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Zeron posted:The pie charts aren't for conveying useful information, they're for looking cool and enjoying watching the pie chart fill out the way you want it. 
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Jul 15, 2021 21:58
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Please paradox in the name of accessibility let us mouse over the chunks of pie charts to see what the colour represents for those of us with bad colour-seeing peepers. I always found the pie charts in other paradox games totally useless because I couldn't tell which exact shade of colour meant what between the legend and pie. Give me a tool tip please.
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Jul 15, 2021 22:32
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they were also useless because they didn't actually convey any information correctly.
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Jul 15, 2021 22:34
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As long as I can export my countries data as a CSV file I'll be ok
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Jul 15, 2021 22:41
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they should use a radar graph like street fighter
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Jul 15, 2021 22:43
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A capitalist sees that chart and immediately sets out to build another glass factory
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Gaius Marius posted:A capitalist sees that chart and immediately sets out to build another glass factory "It's a growth industry! All the other capitalists can't be wrong!"
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Jul 15, 2021 23:36
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Capfalcon posted:"It's a growth industry! All the other capitalists can't be wrong!" give me a pie chart measuring bubbles please
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Jul 15, 2021 23:37
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Quorum posted:give me a pie chart measuring bubbles please  
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Jul 15, 2021 23:40
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Big Dick Cheney posted:As long as I can export my countries data as a CSV file I'll be ok 
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Jul 15, 2021 23:47
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We actually have area charts too, you can toggle between them and pie charts.
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Jul 15, 2021 23:47
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Are the pie charts disabled during famine?
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Jul 15, 2021 23:49
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Poil posted:Are the pie charts disabled during famine? Replaced with cake charts
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Jul 15, 2021 23:50
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Wiz posted:We actually have area charts too, you can toggle between them and pie charts. 
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Jul 15, 2021 23:55
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Maps and charts, my two favortest thing. Time for my favorite game mode, brought over from Stellaris: How many flavors can I add to my pop pie chart?
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Jul 15, 2021 23:57
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Alternatively, let Tableau access Vicky's database and make your own custom viz. Perfect for dual monitor gamers
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The fact that they feel a need to have those numbers for the top 3 underneath kinda prove that the pie chart sucks at conveying useful information. In the same space they're currently using, bar charts would be able to provide more easily read information on more groups. bar charts can't accommodate additional pop types added by mods or dlc inside a fixed-size UI element
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guidoanselmi posted:Alternatively, let Tableau access Vicky's database and make your own custom viz. Perfect for dual monitor gamers Would appeal to goons who ache to get back to EVE-Online but know that they cannot.
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Playing vicky2 and I'm a newb, is there an effective strategy for reducing aristocrats? Playing russia and I noticed I have a fuckload of aristocrats... I am just promoting clergy and buero early game.
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