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eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
I could see future China pulling some dick-swinging moves like requiring putonghua for ATC within some expansive interpretation of “their” territory

you know, the same kind of thing the US has done ever since it became a world power

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

carry on then posted:

good. it's only a matter of time until other areas like aviation switch over as well

eschaton posted:

I could see future China pulling some dick-swinging moves like requiring putonghua for ATC

lool no. yes that would be a swinging dick move, for sure, and the immediate effect on the country would be a shutdown of their international air travel. no airline on earth is going to spend the money, let alone time, teaching their pilots a new language just to keep the chinese flights.

best case:
- if you live in a major hub city you can still get a direct flight to beijing with a departing chinese airline, but your schedule options are curtailed like you're flying to north korea
- if you don't live in a major hub city you have added at least one layover to every flight going to china, plus the associated schedule problems
- airports in surrounding countries will be swamped as airlines start dumping people in japan or vietnam to catch a small domestic shuttle into the country

man what a dumb poo poo idea.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

eschaton posted:

I could see future China pulling some dick-swinging moves like requiring putonghua for ATC within some expansive interpretation of “their” territory

you know, the same kind of thing the US has done ever since it became a world power

china, unlike the US's bipartisan china policy of cutting off our nose to spite our face, actually cares about commerce so won't do something like this abruptly to exert power

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

the comments thread on the assassination of the Haitian prime minister is so bad

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Maximo Roboto posted:

the comments thread is so bad

:hmmyes:

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Vaslo 2 hours ago [–]

This reminds me of the scene in The Shining when Wendy disturbs Jack. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wanted to do Jack’s reaction when someone interrupts me.
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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

hobbesmaster posted:

china, unlike the US's bipartisan china policy of cutting off our nose to spite our face, actually cares about commerce so won't do something like this abruptly to exert power

have you paid attention to prc diplomacy lately

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

bob dobbs is dead posted:

have you paid attention to prc diplomacy lately

no, it turns out the US’s monitor was off

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
growup12345 51 minutes ago | parent | favorite | on: Paternity leave: The hidden barriers keeping men a...

The main thesis of Morgenroth is that men and women are equal in terms of their ability to be communal… but are they?

No evidence offered, just some philosophical symmetry “it has to be” argument is concocted.

I don’t buy it: in western countries you are protected by law if you want to take parental leave, so if men want to do it they should do it regardless of what “society” thinks. The law gives them the power to do so, hence who cares about the hypothetical existence of these “deep prejudices”: even if it is as bad as they say, it’s not like anyone can fire them.

But you might miss out on your career: and that is logical… if you go away for 5 months, then your colleague who is ultra competitive and childless and was waiting for his chance will just snatch up your position and when you are back you will find yourself sidelined. I see zero issues with this: you prioritised family, hence where your career will go from that point shouldn’t matter to you at all. Are people supposed to modify business objectives due to personal choices? If people do believe the answer is yes, we are entering the land of such deeply ingrained entitlement that to me that is the real problem. No one owes you anything in life: if you think otherwise, you are set for a disaster.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Ewe, the peasants want to breed.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Xik posted:

Are people supposed to modify business objectives due to personal choices? If people do believe the answer is yes, we are entering the land of such deeply ingrained entitlement that to me that is the real problem.
incredible
as if your business objectives weren't the result of some capitalist making a personal choice, but the immutable word of God

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?
I love that the next sentence is

quote:

No one owes you anything in life: if you think otherwise, you are set for a disaster.

yeah just like nobody owes any loyalty to your business objectives, fucker

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

quote:

I see zero issues with this: you prioritised family, hence where your career will go from that point shouldn’t matter to you at all.

just careening from absolute to absolute without any forethought or empathy or understanding of power structures

4lokos basilisk
Jul 17, 2008


surely that person would not mind being passed over for promotion due to spending too much time posting on hn during working hours

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

unquitting the forums just to bring you this npr markov reality nugget

Litnerd (YC S21) Is Hiring (ycombinator.com)

Litnerd is building the Pixar for Education.

INSPIRATION: Just as Lin-Manuel Miranda took a history book (the story of Alexander Hamilton) and brought it to life through art and theatre ('Hamilton the Musical' is now EduHam – a history teaching program in public schools across the nation), so too will Litnerd teach students with that same inspiration of bringing subjects to life.

Internet Janitor
May 17, 2008

"That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

Ruffian Price posted:

incredible
as if your business objectives weren't the result of some capitalist making a personal choice, but the immutable word of God

just as the pope is selected by cardinals to speak for god, ceos speak the truth of The Market

they are vessels for the invisible hand

mystes
May 31, 2006

Breakfast All Day posted:

unquitting the forums just to bring you this npr markov reality nugget

Litnerd (YC S21) Is Hiring (ycombinator.com)

Litnerd is building the Pixar for Education.

INSPIRATION: Just as Lin-Manuel Miranda took a history book (the story of Alexander Hamilton) and brought it to life through art and theatre ('Hamilton the Musical' is now EduHam – a history teaching program in public schools across the nation), so too will Litnerd teach students with that same inspiration of bringing subjects to life.
If you google them the example video that comes up is even more horrible.

mystes fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jul 13, 2021

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

litnerd cd-roms coming soon to a discount metal rack by the checkout counter in a retail outlet near you

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

oytis 2 hours ago [–]

> Visibility is not a meaningful "reward" for established European newspapers
Why? There are two ways how I would land on a newspaper's page. One is if I read them regularly, then I just go to their website directly to check what's new. That's what their loyal audience does, and Google doesn't affect that.
Another one is that I'm googling for news about a specific event or specific person - then I go to whatever pages Google shows me. That's how newspaper expand their loyal audience.
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alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


NihilCredo posted:

Ewe, the peasants want to breed.

avi/post combo

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



Internet Janitor posted:

just as the pope is selected by cardinals to speak for god, ceos speak the truth of The Market

they are vessels for the invisible hand

this is where evangelicalism is headed if its not there already

Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
Hobli 4 minutes ago | parent | favorite | on: Jeff Bezos’ Dystopian Legacy Goes Far Beyond Amazo...

The EU like Bezos didnt care about it much while their empires expanded.

The "enlightenment" happened only after their arms race to colonize the planet ended in world wars.

Learning takes time.

Emporer Bezos is thankfully a tad smarter than the Kings and Queens of the EU and his road to "enlightenment" will be much shorter with less devastation and trauma.

I just hope, after they learn their lessons, the Amazon corporate robots will be less sanctimonious than present day Europeans.

jesus WEP
Oct 17, 2004


the only bezos enlightenment that would make a difference to society is if his shoulders and neck were enlightened by 10lbs or so in minecraft

dioxazine
Oct 14, 2004

that's actually a thought. has bezos done more damage than the collective monarchies of old europe combined?

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

dioxazine posted:

that's actually a thought. has bezos done more damage than the collective monarchies of old europe combined?

think he's got a ways to go to catch up with leopold

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

dioxazine posted:

that's actually a thought. has bezos done more damage than the collective monarchies of old europe combined?

nah, i don't think bezos is any worse than your average gilded age robber baron

now the zucc, on the other hand...

mystes
May 31, 2006

quantumsequoia 1 day ago [–]


One plausible explanation that is less damaging: Gates is a utilitarian and determined that the net benefits that could come from networking with Epstein outweighs the risks.

It can kind of be perceived as the trolly problem in real life. Do you pull the lever and get one person's blood on your hands, but result in 4 met lives saved? Or do you stay morally pure by refusing to kill someone... and let the 5 people die by your inaction?

Gates does strike me as an analytical, ends-justify-the-means kind of guy

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

laurent92 15 hours ago [–]

I understand, but it sounds like we are digging ourselves into the same hole as USSR workers who were not incentivized to deliver working products, when we do that. It’s a civilizational peril. How do we solve cooperation at large scale? Is the only way to watch large companies accumulate bored employees and constantly recreate “the small guy”, the startup, which will finally make things right, until they become too big to be incentivized?
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dads friend steve
Dec 24, 2004

hmmmm I seem to recall someone writing about how workers under capitalist modes of production can feel alienated from their labor

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009



mystes posted:

quantumsequoia 1 day ago [–]


One plausible explanation that is less damaging: Gates is a utilitarian and determined that the net benefits that could come from networking with Epstein outweighs the risks.

It can kind of be perceived as the trolly problem in real life. Do you pull the lever and get one person's blood on your hands, but result in 4 met lives saved? Or do you stay morally pure by refusing to kill someone... and let the 5 people die by your inaction?

Gates does strike me as an analytical, ends-justify-the-means kind of guy

i was just thinking of the children when i plugged that teenager

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

the onlyfans thread is unsurprisingly full of sad coomers:




9530jh9054ven 18 minutes ago [–]

>If you've got a robust social network then [watching Twitch / OnlyFans as a parasocial interaction] is not all that harmful, and if you don't then it's at least something, but you can trick yourself into thinking that something is enough when really it can be quite a shallow and ephemeral social experience.

Doesn't that also apply to any kind of interactions though? Every single group I've ever participated with in my entire life has always been shallow and ephemeral. Especially the in person interactions.




vmception 2 hours ago [–]

On the other hand, I have found it pleasant how reliably non-offensive it is to ask almost any attractive* woman about their subscription content now. It is mostly freemium or they are willing to have an objective conversation about how they’ve been thinking about it.

I don’t really think it is different from a parenting perspective. Many of the women** appreciate the approach about their content because the intentions are clearer and they don’t have to guess what a guy thinks about anything while also knowing that guy finds them attractive but isn’t likely going to bother with anything non-consensual or at least not blow up on them on the spot. From what I can tell, many of the women (that I’ve met in person and subsequently asked about their streaming services) were also hostesses and strippers and/or dabbling in modeling and pivoted when the venues weren’t available through the pandemic, something that offered only a slightly greater temporary anonymity and equally outside of the view of protective parents.

When the analytics leak from these websites, I bet the demographics data would subvert all assumptions. If enough people do it, the “blackmail” potential from having digital shareable erotic content evaporates. So that should give some peace of mind with this direction of the world.

*A consensus-level of visual attraction, as opposed to something more subjective. ie. you can look at someone and guess which ones have been suggested to do content by others, and likely have a following to stay active by the time you showed up

**My perspective is only about women and isn’t suggesting that only women are content creators

Qwertycoatl
Dec 31, 2008

does that second guy just ask random women he meets whether they stream porn?

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015
If he finds them physically attractive, yes.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


That whole thread is just sad as gently caress, goddamn.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

blippage 3 hours ago [–]

> I feel like these dangerous aspects of sex work are often ignored in the current zeitgeist of de-stigmatizing,
I agree entirely. I heard of one young lady who started an OnlyFans, apparently did quite well, but decided to stop it because of the psychic damage.
I'm going to be heavily downvoted for this, but I'm going to say it anyway ...
We need to stop all the bullshit about how it empowers women. Certain sections of the Women's Lib movement are particularly to blame for this, and it is right to heavily censure them.
Sites like OnlyFans exploit lonely young men who are poor at making connections with women. It's morally wrong to engage in exploitative behaviour. Period. I don't care if they're "beta cucks", "incels", "losers", or whatever de-humanising manshaming words one cares to use, exploitative behaviour is still wrong.
Sure, if you bounce your tiddies over on OnlyFans then it doesn't make you literally worse than Hitler, but these people should be discouraged from what they're doing.
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alexandriao
Jul 20, 2019


hn thread: "if you bounce your titties on OnlyFans then it doesn't make you literally worse than Hitler"

Buck Turgidson
Feb 6, 2011

𓀬𓀠𓀟𓀡𓀢𓀣𓀤𓀥𓀞𓀬

NihilCredo posted:

the onlyfans thread is unsurprisingly full of sad coomers:

vmception 2 hours ago [–]

On the other hand, I have found it pleasant how reliably non-offensive it is to ask almost any attractive* woman about their subscription content now. It is mostly freemium or they are willing to have an objective conversation about how they’ve been thinking about it.

I don’t really think it is different from a parenting perspective. Many of the women** appreciate the approach about their content because the intentions are clearer and they don’t have to guess what a guy thinks about anything while also knowing that guy finds them attractive but isn’t likely going to bother with anything non-consensual or at least not blow up on them on the spot. From what I can tell, many of the women (that I’ve met in person and subsequently asked about their streaming services) were also hostesses and strippers and/or dabbling in modeling and pivoted when the venues weren’t available through the pandemic, something that offered only a slightly greater temporary anonymity and equally outside of the view of protective parents.

When the analytics leak from these websites, I bet the demographics data would subvert all assumptions. If enough people do it, the “blackmail” potential from having digital shareable erotic content evaporates. So that should give some peace of mind with this direction of the world.

*A consensus-level of visual attraction, as opposed to something more subjective. ie. you can look at someone and guess which ones have been suggested to do content by others, and likely have a following to stay active by the time you showed up

**My perspective is only about women and isn’t suggesting that only women are content creators



how the gently caress does anyone read hn... get this poo poo outta my brain!!!!

tracecomplete
Feb 26, 2017

quote:

tomc1985 12 hours ago | undown | parent | flag | favorite | on: Don’t Wanna Pay Ransom Gangs? Test Your Backups

> So is your argument that it's not just "hardcore nerds" capable of successfully building the systems in this thread? Because that's been my entire point.

My point is that we are not closed to outsiders. Anyone can become a 'hardcore nerd', but the essence of meritocracy is merit, but there just aren't a lot of shortcuts there. If you're willing to put in the time to learn the mastery so you can step with the elite, then welcome. Otherwise, GTFO and stop trying to take our jobs.

'Elitism', 'gatekeeping'... all that, just sounds like sour grapes to me. Those folks can come back and try again after they've leveled up more. Otherwise, they can go back to whatever else it is they do.

> I paint "hardcore nerds" that condescend to people they call "muggles" as all bad, because 80% of getting things done is working with other people, and that behavior explicitly calls out an ability to work productively with others.

And I paint people that look down at nerds as bad. And "getting things done" used to require a hell of a lot less interpersonal action, but nowadays skillsets and business seem to trend towards codependency, not independence. Part of my issues with tech today.

> The persona you carry around is a great way to have all of your points dismissed indiscriminately. Expressing yourself strongly is great! Being an rear end in a top hat, less so.

I swear to god I am sick and tired of you folks talking down to me about this stuff like you're better. You are not the first and certainly not the last. Allow me to be an elitist rear end in a top hat, my message has clearly resonated with you (after all you did say you were walking away from this thread like 3 or 4 replies ago) so I'm not entirely sure what point you are getting at! Bad press is still press, as it were.

It's a shame that society has turned so hostile to the specialized operators of the world. Do you think the same thing of the Marines, who straight-up advertise that they won't allow just anybody? What about doctors? Hell if I was a plumber, or an electrician, or an auto repair guy I would want to make drat sure that someone else trying to enter my space and potentially compete with me is at the very least competent. And newcomers are great! Up until they try and reshape the world to be easier for them and worse for the incumbents.

The way I see it, the nerds built this poo poo and tech is our house. No matter how hard everyone else is trying to muscle in on it because tech is what's hot, we were here first and this is our territory. Not my fault every business idiot and their mother is throwing money at us because what we've built is so much better. Everyone is free to run a business however they see fit, but if you want to do it in or with tech you gotta pay the fee. Or not, if you're willing to build the mastery to work around that (but then guess what, now you're a nerd too!) It's the same way everything else works in this cursed world we're stuck in.

mystes
May 31, 2006

xyzzy21 11 minutes ago [–]


It's easy to destroy something. But very hard to replicate its order and structure quickly, status quo ante.

This is why conservatives exist: they know this so their position is: "Think this plan through 3-20 more times first to make absolutely sure you know what you are getting into".

For some of us who'd spent time in the Middle East, we knew the invasion of Iraq was 1) based on bogus justification, and, 2) would end very badly. What actually happened was well within #2's range. And 100% predictable

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Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

living in a historically fairly socialist country it is interesting that the word conservative is not really used in politics, but when it is it tends to align with the american view, despite that not making a whole lot of sense. liberal is defined as you would expect from circumstances though; right-wingish and anti-tax and so on.

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