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StratGoatCom posted:Did this ever get posted last year? Not them specifically, but there was this a few weeks later Arsenic Lupin posted:Insomniac Games (thread).
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siotle posted:For what it's worth, she's put up a public apology. This is quite possibly the best apology I've ever seen.
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StratGoatCom posted:Did this ever get posted last year? Yeah, good luck getting any traction against a popular first party developer 
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Yeah, good luck getting any traction against a popular first party developer The fact that this is more than a year old and has only been posted here now speaks to this.
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Byolante posted:Perhaps, in light of how the Howolka incident happened, the pro-jared thing, the James Charles thing, the ongoing clown fiesta that is the Vic Mignogna situation, instantly believing any random accusation and immediately doing everything to destroy the career and life of the accused is not an appropriate reaction. Everybody involved in this poo poo instantly deleted their twitter because they all know they conspired to destroy somebody and ended up killing him. I don't recall any 'gamers' deliberately driving people to suicide. This. Don't even care what any of the useful idiots in the rest of the thread have to say. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Chakram posted:This. Don't even care what any of the useful idiots in the rest of the thread have to say. You've had two years to consider whether "victims of abusers like Howolka should keep quiet in case their abuser kills themself when exposed" is a good take and decided that it was? Ariong fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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your first post in this thread consisting of agreeing with a two-year-old post defending abusers and calling the rest of the posters here 'useful idiots' is really good stuff, i gotta say
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How did they even find that post specifically. Did they decide to read from the very first page every single post, saw that, and decided "WOW I REALLY NEED TO QUOTE THIS" even though they were two years late? Although in retrospect, wow, putting Vic Mignogna in the "maybe accusers are wrong sometimes" category didn't age well.
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Vic wasn't even a good argument back then he has been a well-known creep for a long time. edit: Even better I checked the dates and that post was made after they took the deposition for his lawsuit where he shredded his own case. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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What universe do they reside in that they feel like Vic has been vindicated...? Or that the takeaway from Howolka killing themself was "guess we should never reveal the crimes of abusers then". Literally what on earth. Captain Oblivious fucked around with this message at 19:33 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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I just went back to the post they quoted and that person then goes on to try to frame a victim of abuse sharing their story as “vigilante justice.”  drat these useful idots! They’re enabling the Twitter vigilantes! Ariong fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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 When you think about it, it's really the powerful and famous that are the victims here; were they not famous, they'd never be hounded and flayed when it turns out they did something so minor as constant emotional abuse towards co-workers or sexually harassing fans No, I will not be replying to messages that @ me
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My brain bluescreens trying to figure out how these people keep finding this thread and leaving the most awful opinions in it.
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Isn't the only one of those who wasn't a creep james charles?
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I don't know what he was accused of in 2019 but I'm gonna go with no:
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OwlFancier posted:Isn't the only one of those who wasn't a creep james charles? Like, technically? He had a habit of flirting pretty aggressively with straight men he was interested but no on ever accused him of anything more then being an annoying creep. The drama was around some IG/influencer spat over make-up brands and it kind of fizzled out. The real sex creep was Jeffree Star who ran in similar circles. Also, the Holowka thing was like the perfect storm to kick off GG 2.0 Electric Boogaloo given it feature chud enemy no. 1 Zoe Quinn, and it flopped completely as literally everyone connected to Holowka said "yeah, this is true and I was aware or experienced serious abuse coming from him" including his own family. edit: Didn't know about the James Charles sexting. Honestly those influencer spats dominate the news cycle for these people to such an insane degree unless you follow them you don't hear about the sex crimes. https://www.thecut.com/article/james-charles-allegations-and-accusations-explained.html quote:On April 1, 21-year-old beauty influencer and controversy magnet James Charles released an apology video in response to allegations that he exchanged inappropriate messages with minors. In the video, titled “holding myself accountable,” Charles shifts away from his former tactic of denying any wrongdoing, and instead says that after spending time “researching these topics” and self-reflecting, he realized that he (and only he) was to blame for the interactions. He admits to having “engaged in a flirty conversation” with two 16-year-olds, once last year and once more recently — though he stands by his claim that in both situations, he was told that the other person was 18 and believed them. “I fully understand my actions and how they were wrong,” he concludes. quote:Previously, he’s been accused of inappropriate comments and tweets, and of bragging about using his celebrity to coerce straight men into romantic relationships. quote:In October 2018, Shawn Mendes went on Instagram Live to show off his juggling abilities, and Charles commented on the livestream, writing “Can you juggle me like that?” Pretty soon afterwards, Mendes ended the livestream. Fans speculated that Mendes ended it because Charles’s comment made him uncomfortable and pointed to a report that theorized Mendes had privately told fans he disliked Charles because of the “weird poo poo” the influencer commented on his posts. quote:She alleged in her video that Charles regularly goes after straight men with the intention of manipulating their sexuality. “You tried to trick a straight man into thinking he’s gay, yet again, and somehow you’re the victim,” she said. “You’re using your fame, your power, and your money to play with people’s emotions.” Westbrook then recounted a birthday dinner in Seattle, attended by Charles, where she said he had made sexual comments about a waiter and joked that the waiter’s sexuality didn’t matter because “I’m a celebrity.” quote:Multiple underage boys started posting stories about Charles, primarily on TikTok. In January, Charles tweeted vaguely that social media apps “should have stronger policies about spreading false information … it’s actually insane how one person can fake a story or screenshot for clout.” It’s unclear what, exactly, he was referencing. quote:In February, a 16-year-old boy, Isaiyah, accused Charles of grooming him in a pair of TikToks, claiming the influencer had sent him nude photos and requests to send photos in return. The TikToks circulated widely before being deleted for violating guidelines, and Charles immediately responded with a notes app statement denying the allegation, and saying that the boy had lied about his age. Isaiyah replied to the statement, saying Charles had never asked for his age: quote:Then, at the end of March, two more 16-year-old boys shared screenshots of messages they said they received from Charles. In the first, Charles seemingly accused the boy of lying about his age, and was upset with him for sharing screenshots of their conversation in his story. The now-deleted second TikTok seemingly shows screenshots of inappropriate snaps Charles sent to the boy. quote:In the wake of Charles’s apology, more than 15 people have come forward to accuse him of inappropriate sexual advances and/or grooming, with allegations circulating primarily on Twitter and TikTok. Many of Charles’s past public online interactions have also been scrutinized in a new light — including the resurfacing of a comment he made asking then-15-year-old influencer Weston Koury whether he shaves his legs — and others have come forward with what they perceive as evidence that further validates the existing allegations. pentyne fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 19, 2021 |
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Isn't that the guy who hosed his cat?
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packetmantis posted:Isn't that the guy who hosed his cat? That was Shane Dawson
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Cool to barge into a thread screaming about how gamers never deliberately drove anyone to suicide, less than a month after Near died.
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e: actually it was me who misread, nvm
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Tendales posted:Cool to barge into a thread screaming about how gamers never deliberately drove anyone to suicide, less than a month after Near died. most cases like this is 99% projection
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Yeah, James Charles was accused for the wrong thing by another YouTuber he had a spat with. In that case, considering the framing (he was accused of trying to turn straight boys gay), being skeptical was warranted. He absolutely is a creep, though, so... Genuinely unsure why the internet at large considers ProJared exhonerated.
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Hub Cat posted:I don't know what he was accused of in 2019 but I'm gonna go with no: Ok so not even that then lmao. I only know of him from the westbrook thing.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Yeah, James Charles was accused for the wrong thing by another YouTuber he had a spat with. In that case, considering the framing (he was accused of trying to turn straight boys gay), being skeptical was warranted. He absolutely is a creep, though, so... He posted a long video saying he was over and over and offered no evidence. Good enough!
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Genuinely unsure why the internet at large considers ProJared exhonerated. A crisis management firm helped him make a refutation video.
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There’s also a depressingly large amount of people who will just accept a public apology video of any kind, regardless of what the victims feel, if any consequences happened, or even if there isn’t an actual apology in the video.
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Isn't he kind of in the same boat as Dan from Game Grumps, where it was nothing illegal but still skeezy/manipulative of his fanbase? Some people, sadly, seem totally fine with their faves doing lovely things to people as long as there aren't laws against it.
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The Bee posted:Isn't he kind of in the same boat as Dan from Game Grumps, where it was nothing illegal but still skeezy/manipulative of his fanbase? Some people, sadly, seem totally fine with their faves doing lovely things to people as long as there aren't laws against it. Yeah, basically. It didn't help that some of the women Jared slept with started changing their stories a bit as well. It just seemed like a bunch of awful people all around.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Genuinely unsure why the internet at large considers ProJared exhonerated. He did fully refute some specific claims, but that doesn't deny that he was an absolute loving weirdo creep.
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Fair Bear Maiden posted:Genuinely unsure why the internet at large considers ProJared exhonerated. I don't think everybody does by a longshot, but most people just don't care and have short memories. He stayed off youtube for awhile didn't he? You wait a year and then drop some new videos like nothing happened, you're going to get some kids to watch who were too young to know when the original poo poo went down, and so on.
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Zaphod42 posted:I don't think everybody does by a longshot, but most people just don't care and have short memories. He stayed off youtube for awhile didn't he? You wait a year and then drop some new videos like nothing happened, you're going to get some kids to watch who were too young to know when the original poo poo went down, and so on. Ryan Haywood tried this and the entire rooster teeth community got his rear end banned from twitch lol Its good to see a community band together like that, now they just need to finish ousting the racist fans complaining about black people in their YouTube video game videos
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The Bee posted:Isn't he kind of in the same boat as Dan from Game Grumps, where it was nothing illegal but still skeezy/manipulative of his fanbase? Some people, sadly, seem totally fine with their faves doing lovely things to people as long as there aren't laws against it. What struck me as weird about the thing with Dan Avidan is that there is, for whatever reason, a subreddit with over 27,000 subscribers that is entirely dedicated to making GBS threads on Game Grumps. They jumped into that whole thing with both feet, which effectively tainted the well.
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Wanderer posted:What struck me as weird about the thing with Dan Avidan is that there is, for whatever reason, a subreddit with over 27,000 subscribers that is entirely dedicated to making GBS threads on Game Grumps. They jumped into that whole thing with both feet, which effectively tainted the well. It was like the 4th attempt to go after him, and the only reason this one went so viral it was framed as he was talking to her while she was underage and groomed, which fell apart pretty fast under scrutiny and then people ignored the actual problems with his behavior. Everything else about the story was true, the love-bombing, build-up, then ghosting after sex, admitted by him and someone posting claiming to be the women who sent the original video along as proof she knew Dan. It just all occurred after she passed the magic age line that made it legal. There's been a pretty consistent drip of women saying similar things about him according to the subreddit it just never reached the level of sex pest, but god drat does Rantgrumps really loving hate him for replacing Jontron 8 years ago.
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pentyne posted:It was like the 4th attempt to go after him, and the only reason this one went so viral it was framed as he was talking to her while she was underage and groomed, which fell apart pretty fast under scrutiny and then people ignored the actual problems with his behavior. It's still gross loving behavior, and he is still a sex pest. He's older than Arin and treating their young fans as groupies that he can groom and then gently caress and ghost at events.
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This ATVI lawsuit is horrifying even for the low bar you might imagine (cw: suicide) Activision Blizzard Sued By California Over ‘Frat Boy’ Culture Just at the top: quote:According to the complaint, filed Tuesday in the Los Angeles Superior Court, female employees make up around 20% of the Activision workforce, and are subjected to a “pervasive frat boy workplace culture,” including “cube crawls,” in which male employees “drink copious amounts of alcohol as they crawl their way through various cubicles in the office and often engage in inappropriate behavior toward female employees.”
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This ATVI lawsuit is horrifying even for the low bar you might imagine (cw: suicide) That was actually horrific jfc
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:This ATVI lawsuit is horrifying even for the low bar you might imagine (cw: suicide) quote:The suit also points to a female Activision employee who took her own life while on a company trip with her male supervisor. The employee had been subjected to intense sexual harassment prior to her death, including having nude photos passed around at a company holiday party, the complaint says. 
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