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There's fun variants of it that have been around for decades too. There used to be a middle-aged black guy who would contest his traffic tickets and child support payments by sending his "Moorish Passport" that identified him as a "Moorish Citizen of the World - recognized under the United States of America's Treaty of Tripoli," which means he is only bound by Moorish law (which coincidentally doesn't recognize child support or traffic tickets).
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Caros posted:I'm always sort of torn over how much empathy these chuckle fucks deserve. Not very much, I can tell you that.
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"Hey buddy, I just live here - I don't live here." - every sovereign citizen
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:There used to be a middle-aged black guy who would contest his traffic tickets and child support payments by sending his "Moorish Passport" that identified him as a "Moorish Citizen of the World - recognized under the United States of America's Treaty of Tripoli," which means he is only bound by Moorish law (which coincidentally doesn't recognize child support or traffic tickets). I'll bet that was also his response whenever the moon hit his eye like a big pizza pie.
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superjew posted:"Hey buddy, I just live here - I don't live here." "I am just a vessel for this being" As always, Canadian Judge J.D. Rooke's takedown of the Sovcit stuff is a pro-read, he was originally overseeing a child support case, and ended up writing a paper on Sovcit legal strategies https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Caros posted:As fun as it is to dunk on sovcits (God it is fun), it is worth remembering that the people who buy into this are typically either seriously mentally ill, or being duped into it in the same way someone becomes an antivaxer, or a capitol insurrectionist for that matter. The one in Portland (Red House on Mississippi) got a lot of empathy. Can't say I'm surprised that they still haven't bought the house they've been [illegally] living in for a couple of years. Even after raising more than enough money via GoFundMe to buy it and the owner of the house agreeing to sell it to them. It still cracks me up how hard people fell for that grift. Kalit fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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I'm trying to imagine them in the prison yard. "What are you in for?" "The Jan 6 thing, but it's all bullshit I should have got off because I'm not really a human citizen I am a pure vessel of God and did not consent to joinder" *pees on them*
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CommieGIR posted:"I am just a vessel for this being" This is a pro read, I read it before but loving hell its funny to read again. There was one great gem I remember (not sure if its in your thing here or not yet) where a sovcit tried to get all his 'evidence' accepted by the court, and it was a pile of papers with mad poo poo scrawled on them, with stamps everywhere. First couple of pages were about if the judge accepts these papers, then he accepts the guy is innocent, that he will pay 5 billion in silver to the sovcit, and do whatever the sovcit wanted forever. Judge wouldn't accept it, so he left it behind on the desk. I think the Judge said that anything left behind would be just dumped. Cant remember if it was dumped or not.
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Section f: tax-related magic hats
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happyhippy posted:"Welp, she said the magic words folks. Officer, let her go, can't do anything to her now and forever" An actual concurring opinion by a Louisiana Supreme Court justice in an 8-1 decision posted:In my view, the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a “lawyer dog” does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination of the interview and does not violate Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477, 101 S.Ct. 1880, 68 L.Ed.2d 378 (1981).
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happyhippy posted:This is a pro read, I read it before but loving hell its funny to read again. Jason Scott's Defcon talk about when he pissed off a sovcit with his textfiles.com archive is pretty good and along the same lines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74g7wSTYUso
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40 State AGs and Lawyers from Municipalities are close to announcing a settlement Johnson and Johnson, Cardinal Health, McKesson ,and AmerisourceBergen over their role in manufacturing and encouraging opioid prescriptions. Main bullet points: - Companies will pay $26 billion in damages to distribute to plaintiffs (the states and municipalities have to work out how to disribute this money, which is the one thing holding up the deal) - Companies will pay $2 billion for legal fees for all of the states and municipalities. - Companies will fund addiction and treatment centers in those 40 states for the next 17 years. - All of these companies must agree to never manufacture opioids again. - Companies will create mandatory "red flag" programs to automatically suspend suspicious pill sales to pharmacies that will be subject to annual audits from the states. - Companies do not admit or deny wrongdoing (this prevents them from essentially automatically losing all civil cases against them in the future) - This does not end all of the other lawsuits against the companies, but the state AGs and municipalities will consider the cases settled unless new information comes out. - This settlement is just for these companies - the other manufacturers, the distributers, and pharmacies are all excluded. quote:States and Cities Near Tentative $26 Billion Deal in Opioids Cases https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/health/opioid-settlement-distributors-johnson.html
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Caros posted:As fun as it is to dunk on sovcits (God it is fun), it is worth remembering that the people who buy into this are typically either seriously mentally ill, or being duped into it in the same way someone becomes an antivaxer, or a capitol insurrectionist for that matter. None. Empathy towards these chuckle fucks is one of the reasons America is dealing with this poo poo right now. The primary one IMO. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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SovCits make me laugh, well, for a lot of reasons. But mostly because they are so close to something approaching integrity but fall on their rear end trying. "I do not consent to your laws" is a pretty classic example of peaceful resistance throughout modern history, but is generally accompanied by an acknowledgement that you then must abide by the consequences of that e.g. arrest. Instead they think they are literally immune to law so way to gently caress up peaceful resistance idiots.
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Mendrian posted:Instead they think they are literally immune to law so way to gently caress up peaceful resistance idiots. Most of these guys are "peacefully resisting" not paying taxes and child support poo poo. Its peaceful resistance to actual responsibility. And yeah, most of these guys are ill or being actively exploited by the Sovcit gurus and survivalist guys they pick this stuff up from. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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It's hard to be too sympathetic when, like, 90% of the time they're also assholes who are refusing to pay alimony and child support on principle. Can't pay child support if I'm in jail!
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https://twitter.com/axios/status/1417494311810306060?s=19
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Sovcit "documentation" in particular makes it clear that these people are really just in a white supremacist cult. It doesn't appear that even sovereign citizens believe that the magic words will really get them out of trouble in court, rather than serve as a declaration and appeal to the Higher Truth of the cult. Making a loud splash also makes them feel powerful and important. American Neo-Nazis have also been setting up communes in the boonies since forever that they want everyone to consider sovereign nations, and sovereign citizenship etc. is just a natural offshoot of that thinking. When one gets dragged into court to finally pay taxes or child support, it's an expression of solidarity with the other white supremacists who haven't been dragged off the farm yet to keep going. They're also not interested in peaceful resistance, they're active terrorist organizations. Who do you think is burning a lot of these black churches and synagogues? So in short, you do not gotta hand it to them. It's just Aryan Nations poo poo. Name Change fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Worthwhile video of Dr. Fauci telling of Rand Paul: https://twitter.com/Covid19WarRoom/status/1417500531749269517?s=20
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CommieGIR posted:Worthwhile video of Dr. Fauci telling of Rand Paul: Just out of fucks to give lol
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Sovcit "documentation" in particular makes it clear that these people are really just in a white supremacist cult. The handful I have had firsthand experience with expected it to work, and one was an otherwise reasonable Black activist. There may well be plenty of crossover with Nazi idiots, and a lot of what happens with them in court is absolutely performative nonsense. But plenty of people, racial minorities included, get hooked with One Weird Trick kinda pitches and are blindsided by the result.
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Caros posted:I'm always sort of torn over how much empathy these chuckle fucks deserve. Let me help you out. This person and the people who share her "belief system" would gladly hang you in public for being whatever buzzword they choose to signify deviation from a fascist norm. They'd kill you, your friends, and your family in order to purify the state. And they'd do it with pleasure.
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CommieGIR posted:Worthwhile video of Dr. Fauci telling of Rand Paul: I’m sure it would’ve just resulted in his being fired, but man to have had this exchange more than a year ago
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eviltastic posted:The handful I have had firsthand experience with expected it to work, and one was an otherwise reasonable Black activist. There may well be plenty of crossover with Nazi idiots, and a lot of what happens with them in court is absolutely performative nonsense. But plenty of people, racial minorities included, get hooked with One Weird Trick kinda pitches and are blindsided by the result. It seems like some people get into a hole they can't get out of - usually tax related or some other financial obligation - and wind up falling for the sovcit nonsense that people sell as a Get Out Of Taxes Free card. They don't necessarily make the connection to everything else. But 99.9%, yeah, absolutely awful people and some percentage of those are definitely dangerous. In more than the "filing false liens against anyone who wronged them" sense.
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Thaddius the Large posted:I’m sure it would’ve just resulted in his being fired, but man to have had this exchange more than a year ago Yeah I'm pretty sure he was trying to protect his work and his position so that he could keep doing work on the epidemic, so it was probably the right thing to do given Trump Admins willingness to just fire anyone for a slip of the tongue.
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CommieGIR posted:Worthwhile video of Dr. Fauci telling of Rand Paul: I want to say that Dr. Paul is putting on an act and doesn't actually believe the anti-vaxx pro-death fearmongering he's saying but then I remembered he literally made up his own fake certification letting him practice opthalmology. But man, there are far too many actual doctors in the GOP ranks for them to keep doing this poo poo. 4 in the Senate, 11 including Paul in the House.
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Youth Decay posted:I want to say that Dr. Paul is putting on an act and doesn't actually believe the anti-vaxx pro-death fearmongering he's saying but then I remembered he literally made up his own fake certification letting him practice opthalmology. You should note that Fauci did not actually address Paul's point and answered a question that was not asked.
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The fact that citizens of the United States got lucky enough to be in the first place where an actual scientific miracle drug is completely free, available at every pharmacy without an appointment, many places are literally paying them in cash and paid time-off to go get it, and it can literally save your life/prevent long-term heart and lung damage and save the lives of your neighbors and family, but still not getting it is the most depressing thing in politics right now. They aren't just not getting it out of laziness or cost, but they are adamantly refusing to get it, encouraging others to do the same, and actively making life difficult and more dangerous for the people who did get it by allowing variants to brew inside them. All in opposition to a vaccine that was developed by American pharmaceutical companies and taken by Donald Trump himself. quote:Linda Marion, 68, a widow with chronic pulmonary disease, worried that a vaccination might actually trigger Covid-19 and kill her. Barbara Billigmeier, 74, an avid golfer who retired here from California, believed she did not need it because “I never get sick.” quote:When the boat factory in this leafy Ozark Mountains city offered free coronavirus vaccinations this spring, Susan Johnson, 62, a receptionist there, declined the offer. quote:Last week, all three were patients on 2 West, an overflow ward that is now largely devoted to treating Covid-19 at Baxter Regional Medical Center, the largest hospital in north-central Arkansas. Mrs. Billigmeier said the scariest part was that “you can’t breathe.” For 10 days, Ms. Johnson had relied on supplemental oxygen being fed to her lungs through nasal tubes. quote:Yet despite their ordeals, none of them changed their minds about getting vaccinated. “It’s just too new,” Mrs. Billigmeier said. “It is like an experiment.” quote:While infections rose in more than half the nation’s counties last week, those with low vaccination rates were far more likely to see bigger jumps. Among the 25 counties with the sharpest increases in cases, all but one had vaccinated under 40 percent of residents, and 16 had vaccinated under 30 percent, a New York Times analysis found. quote:Overall, Arkansas ranks near the bottom of states in the share of population that is vaccinated. Only 44 percent of residents have received at least one shot. quote:Dr. Mark Williams, the dean of the College of Public Health at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences, said the Delta variant was upending his projections for the pandemic. It is spreading through the state’s unvaccinated population “at a very fast rate,” he said, and threatens to strain the ability of hospitals to cope. “I would say we have definitely hit the alarming stage,” he said. quote:At Baxter Regional, many doctors and nurses are girding for another wave while still exhausted from battling the pandemic they thought had abated. quote:The Biden administration has pledged to help stem outbreaks by supplying Covid-19 tests and treatments, promoting vaccines with advertising campaigns and sending community health workers door to door to try to persuade the hesitant. quote:The last mass vaccination event was May 4, when the Arkansas Travelers, a minor-league baseball team, had its first game since the pandemic hit. Thousands gathered at the stadium in Little Rock to watch. Fourteen accepted shots. quote:When the pandemic hit, Baxter Regional became a vaccine distribution center and inoculated 5,500 people. But only half of its 1,800 staff members accepted shots, according to Jonny Harvey, its occupational health coordinator. By early June, demand had tapered off so much that the hospital was administering an average of one a day. quote:The average age of a coronavirus patient in Arkansas has dropped by nearly a decade since December — from 63 to 54 — a reflection of the fact that three-fourths of older Arkansans are at least partly vaccinated. But some patients at the Little Rock hospital are in their 20s or 30s. quote:Last month, the hospital had to reopen a coronavirus ward it had closed in late spring. On Monday, it reopened a second. quote:Many of the nurses there wore colorful stickers announcing they were vaccinated. Ashley Ayers, 26, a traveling nurse from Dallas, did not. Noting that vaccine development typically took years, she said she worried that the shot might impair her fertility — even though there is no evidence of that. quote:David Deutscher, 49, said he fought Covid for 10 days at home before he went to the hospital with a 105-degree fever. When he failed to improve with monoclonal antibody treatment, he said, “that was probably the most scared I have ever been.” He called a friend, the daughter of a medical researcher, from his hospital bed. “Please don’t let me die,” he said. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/17/us/arkansas-covid-19-vaccine.html
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PeterCat posted:You should note that Fauci did not actually address Paul's point and answered a question that was not asked. It's important to address the root cause. This was a question about the conspiracy theory involving covid leaking from the lab. The correct answer is Rand Paul is an idiot.
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Morrow posted:It's important to address the root cause. This was a question about the conspiracy theory involving covid leaking from the lab. The correct answer is Rand Paul is an idiot. Yeah Rand Paul has spent the entirety of every session with Fauci in the past few months dropping the most mind numbingly stupid questions possible. Fauci was well within the right for calling him out given this is like the 4th or 5th time he's appeared before this committee. PeterCat posted:You should note that Fauci did not actually address Paul's point and answered a question that was not asked. Please highlight a question from Rand Paul that actually would be worth answering or taking seriously, he's basically spent every interview with Fauci before this committee as a way to air some downright insane claims about the epidemic and vaccines.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The fact that citizens of the United States got lucky enough to be in the first place where an actual scientific miracle drug is completely free, available at every pharmacy without an appointment, many places are literally paying them in cash and paid time-off to go get it, and it can literally save your life/prevent long-term heart and lung damage and save the lives of your neighbors and family, but still not getting it is the most depressing thing in politics right now. All these fucks deserve whatever they get, but I just wish that in doing so they didn't affect the rest of us. Good god drat Lord.
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Morrow posted:It's important to address the root cause. This was a question about the conspiracy theory involving covid leaking from the lab. The correct answer is Rand Paul is an idiot. It wasn't even really a question about the lab leak theory. That would have at least been vaguely on-topic. He wanted Fauci to say that China created Covid if it leaked from their lab. He just kept pressing him to say China "made it" and wasn't even asking questions about the actual origin.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It wasn't even really a question about the lab leak theory. That would have at least been vaguely on-topic. Yup https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1417509847675904011?s=20 Rand is repeating a common theory among the Qanon crowd about how the NIH was somehow responsible for Covid through Wuhan Lab funding. He straight up basically accused Fauci of lying to congress, so gently caress him. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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How are u posted:All these fucks deserve whatever they get, but I just wish that in doing so they didn't affect the rest of us. Good god drat Lord. Hard same ^^^^^^^^^^
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How are u posted:All these fucks deserve whatever they get, but I just wish that in doing so they didn't affect the rest of us. Good god drat Lord. Amen. Just loving die. Why are you in the hospital, you goddamn pieces of rat poo poo? How many people in developing countries would have the vaccine or otherwise been saved from this virus with the money that goes into treating the willfully ignorant? quote:“I started having flashbacks, like PTSD,” said Dr. Martin, the pulmonologist, who obsesses over her patients’ care. “This is going to sound very selfish but unfortunately it’s true: The fact that people won’t get vaccinated means I can’t go home and see my kids for dinner.” What depresses me is that there are still doctors and nurses who feel ashamed over being angry at these people. I'd relish the chance of giving it straight when they are trapped in their beds. If it is ok to berate people over eating badly or not giving up their addictions (which harms zero other people) it should be 100% fine to make these people feel like the fucks they are, over not taking 10 minutes out of their day to prevent the spread of the loving plague. DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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CommieGIR posted:Yup Those videos are infuriating to watch. As soon as Fauci's reply isn't heading in the direction that Paul approves, he immediately interrupts and talks over. Even when the time expired, he still continues to interrupt and basically not allow his question to get answered. It's clear these people don't actually give a flying gently caress about what they're asking, they just want to catch the "other side" in a gotcha. E: half expected a follow up question: "And tell me Dr. Fauci, if that is your real name..." Velocity Raptor fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Seems another Trump advisor (Tom Barrack) has been arrested and charged for failure to register as a foreign agent for the UAE among other things. https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1417555089926074373 DOJ press release here https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-advisor-presidential-candidate-among-three-defendants-charged-acting-agents-foreign Indictment linked in this tweet https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1417557763106947075 Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jul 20, 2021 |
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Velocity Raptor posted:Those videos are infuriating to watch. As soon as Fauci's reply isn't heading in the direction that Paul approves, he immediately interrupts and talks over. Even when the time expired, he still continues to interrupt and basically not allow his question to get answered. That’s been the conservative strategy forever now and hardly anyone calls them out on it and instead you get Erin Burnett on CNN nodding her head in agreement with John Kasic when he’s full of poo poo and Barney Frank tries his best to call him out on it Somehow being louder or outraged pulls the conservatives into going “Yes this man must be right.”
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Meanwhile this experimental totally new vaccine gave me such minor side effects I had to talk myself out of believing that my dose was a dud. "Yes I got covid, feared for my life and was in a living, breathless hell for 2 weeks just slowly accepting my own death, but can you imagine getting the vaccine? Now that's the scary part"
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With the exception of children or the immunocompromised, maybe we should have hospitals start turning away unvaccinated people with COVID-19 unless they agree to get vaccinated when (if) they recover. Maybe just turn them away entirely. I can't imagine there are many people left in the US who have not had a chance to get vaccinated at this point.
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