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Congrats Bucks, but now it's time for weekly regional food chat, weird hypotheticals, and a dozen or so posters to rehash the same arguments we've been having for over a decade it's the best time of year, it's the: NBA OFFSEASON THREAD Some Key Dates: June 21-27: NBA draft combine June 22: NBA draft lottery July 23 to Aug. 8: Toyko Olympics (Houston players who could be involved include John Wall, Eric Gordon, and Christian Wood for the United States, and Kelly Olynyk for Canada.) July 29: 2021 NBA draft Aug. 2: Free agency negotiations can begin at 5 p.m. Central Aug. 3: Official start of 2021-22 league year; brief moratorium period begins on transactions Aug 3rd: California Classic (4 team summer league thing) Aug. 6: Moratorium period ends at 11:01 a.m. Central, allowing free agents to be signed and trades to be executed Aug. 8-17: NBA Summer League in Las Vegas Sept. 28: Training camps open Oct. 3rd-15: NBA Preseason games Oct. 19: Regular season begins April 16, 2022: 2021-22 playoffs start June 2, 2022: NBA Finals Game 1 June 19, 2022: NBA Finals Game 7 June 23, 2022: 2022 NBA draft Player Opt-Out Calendar: quote:July 25: And remember, every team goes into this season with the belief that anything is possible: 
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Jul 21, 2021 15:51
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Midrange jumpers are back in vogue and people will stop at nothing to complain about how it’s a bad shot
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Jul 21, 2021 15:53
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drat I wish I could make it to Summer League this year
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Jul 21, 2021 15:54
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Carlosologist posted:Midrange jumpers are back in vogue and people will stop at nothing to complain about how it’s a bad shot Midrange and jumbo-sized lineups. Bucks and Lakers winning the last 2 championships going anti-small is a thing.
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Jul 21, 2021 15:56
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3948434 Come hang out in the draft thread and make over confident predictions about the professional futures of teenagers with me
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Jul 21, 2021 16:07
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Lockback posted:Midrange and jumbo-sized lineups. Is it really anti-small or just having an absolute freak of a human that play the 4 and 5 on both ends of the court?
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Jul 21, 2021 16:21
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Yeah, I’d say it’s less jumbo lineups and more there’s two guys in the league who can play two spots at the same time The midrange shot being the go to shot in the playoffs is real tho
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Jul 21, 2021 16:22
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Yeah Lakers best lineup was AD at center and Bucks big change this year was that they were willing to go to a switch everything D to shake things up that effectively made Giannis the center even if it was nominally Portis. Those aren't necessarily small lineups since those are very large people but it's not playing with a traditional center either
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Jul 21, 2021 16:27
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We all want Davis to play like giannis but he wants to play like Josh Smith 😔😔😔
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Jul 21, 2021 16:28
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just scant months until the bulls...are BACK
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Jul 21, 2021 16:29
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Metapod posted:We all want Davis to play like giannis but he wants to play like Josh Smith 😔😔😔 He was a dominant playoff player literally last year and they were awesome this year when he was healthy.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:30
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MourningView posted:Yeah Lakers best lineup was AD at center and Bucks big change this year was that they were willing to go to a switch everything D to shake things up that effectively made Giannis the center even if it was nominally Portis. Those aren't necessarily small lineups since those are very large people but it's not playing with a traditional center either This got me thinking, what players have, at some point in their career, had substantial time at both PG and center? Giannis is the only guy I can find that, by basketball-reference play-by-play stats, has had a season where more than 25% of his time was at PG and another season where at least 25% of his time was at center. Other ones that come to mind: Lebron: topped out at 9% center in a Miami season Boris Diaw: wasn't listed as getting any PG minutes for the Suns, which surprised me Magic Johnson: went to PF his comeback year, but play-play-play data doesn't exist and I doubt they were doing small-ball lineups then (other than that one game where he did the opening tip but I'm full qanon about that just being a gimmick) Ben Simmons: ben simmons joke Nikola Jokic: euphronius joke
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Jul 21, 2021 16:41
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Calidus posted:Is it really anti-small or just having an absolute freak of a human that play the 4 and 5 on both ends of the court? I mean yes, but in basketball there's lots of freaks. I think going jumbo is a side-effect but it does show that "The future of the league is going small" is probably overblown, not that going big is the next thing or anything.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:47
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When people say that they don't necessarily mean literally small they just mean away from traditional centers with very post centric offenses who only guard other centers. Which also still exist but it's a high bar to clear. They aren't talking about seven foot tall guys who can handle and move like a guard. The league is moving towards more skilled and versatile guys, who tend to be but are not always smaller.kingcobweb posted:This got me thinking, what players have, at some point in their career, had substantial time at both PG and center? Giannis is the only guy I can find that, by basketball-reference play-by-play stats, has had a season where more than 25% of his time was at PG and another season where at least 25% of his time was at center. The Diaw PG thing died his rookie year, the Suns played him almost solely as a big, PG was Nash or Barbosa. Magic played center that one time in the finals but I don't think would have done it a lot otherwise MourningView fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 16:52
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yeah inserting giannis is not going jumbo in any basketball sense. same with kd, ad, anyone else 7 feet tall that doesnt run like banjo kazooie.
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Jul 21, 2021 16:56
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most important thing of the offseason just dropped: CURIOUS MIKE EPISODE 1 I was hoping it would be funny and Just Asking Questions about 9/11 but it's 40 minutes about God with some dude from a venture capital firm 
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Jul 21, 2021 17:06
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hifi posted:yeah inserting giannis is not going jumbo in any basketball sense. same with kd, ad, anyone else 7 feet tall that doesnt run like banjo kazooie. That just seems like "No True Scotsman". Of course you play skilled players. Bucks played heavy minutes from Lopez, PJ Tucker, and Portis in addition to big guys like Giannis and or Middleton heavy minutes as the 2 guard, where he is pretty big for the role. It's not just "playing Giannis" it's "Playing Giannis with a rotation where Lopez, Tucker and Portis are getting 80 minutes combined"
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Jul 21, 2021 17:09
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PJ Tucker is like 6'5" and his entire offensive game is standing in the corner. Him getting minutes at center is like the exact thing people are talking about when they say the league is moving away from traditional bigs.
MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 21, 2021 |
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Jul 21, 2021 17:12
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MourningView posted:Yeah Lakers best lineup was AD at center and Bucks big change this year was that they were willing to go to a switch everything D to shake things up that effectively made Giannis the center even if it was nominally Portis. Those aren't necessarily small lineups since those are very large people but it's not playing with a traditional center either I think that Adams working out a shot a la Marc Gasol is the new ideal for the "standard" big, a shooting threat for spacing on offense and a modern defensive player who can protect the rim and ideally defend some perimeter players. obviously that "standard" is pretty high and I dunno how many players clear it. But then again in 2010 mainstream pundits were actually talking up the elite play of Kendrick Perkins so I guess having a bar at all is a nice upgrade
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Jul 21, 2021 17:21
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I maintain a lot of this is just how few of these guys have been any good lately. If a transporter accident clone of Dwight Howard at his rookie age declared for the draft, teams would still fight each other to take him. The best players should be the ones on the court, regardless of style. This will favor certain types of players over others. A kid can bust their rear end and learn to shoot from deep, but no matter how hard they train, they'll never have the strength and agility of peak Shaq.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:22
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MourningView posted:PJ Tucker is like 6'5" and his entire offensive game is standing in the corner. Him getting minutes at center is like the exact thing people are talking about when they say the league is moving away from traditional bigs. He wasn't getting minutes at center though, he played almost always with Lopez or Portis (sometime both), he was at PF and SF. Playing him at center WOULD be playing small but they didn't do that.
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Jul 21, 2021 17:24
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excuse me why is the California Classic not listed in the key dates
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Jul 21, 2021 17:48
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WhyteRyce posted:excuse me why is the California Classic not listed in the key dates Added just for you
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Jul 21, 2021 17:50
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going back a few pages in the old thread, but rodman: hooper or player? i think i can go either way there?
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Jul 21, 2021 18:14
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abelwingnut posted:going back a few pages in the old thread, but rodman: hooper or player? i think i can go either way there? He's an Other I'd call him a Player-Athlete though if I had to use the superior job system.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:20
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The Dallas Mavericks will sign Kawhi Leonard and win 2 (two) NBA championships in the next four years.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:21
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:The Dallas Mavericks will sign Kawhi Leonard and win 2 (two) NBA championships in the next four years. Kawhi would be perfect on that team (as he would be for most teams) but if I were him I'd look at what the Clippers looked like and wouldn't think too much about moving. I dunno what the deal is with his issues with the medical staff or w/e.
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abelwingnut posted:going back a few pages in the old thread, but rodman: hooper or player? i think i can go either way there? there's only one page in this thread man... my vote is player though but obviously clouded by his postgame career
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Jul 21, 2021 18:22
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Lockback posted:He's an Other Pure Wild Card But if we wanna keep it simple he's an Athlete-Player.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:28
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Over 1/10th of Milwaukee’s population being in the deer district last night during a pandemic was one of the most irresponsible things I’ve ever seen on tv. I saw 0 masks, Delta is about to mutate to the Deer District strain. That crowd would have been a cool thing in non pandemic times. Americans deciding the pandemic was basically over this summer is going to look bad by the winter.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:46
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Spacebump posted:Over 1/10th of Milwaukee’s population being in the deer district last night during a pandemic was one of the most irresponsible things I’ve ever seen on tv. I saw 0 masks, Delta is about to mutate to the Deer District strain. That crowd would have been a cool thing in non pandemic times. Americans deciding the pandemic was basically over this summer is going to look bad by the winter. it looks bad now, infections are basically the same as this time last year we're a nation that loves death though so no surprise
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Jul 21, 2021 19:07
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lol forgot about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiYGxlr74mw
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Jul 21, 2021 19:08
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My advice is just to get corona so you get some antibodies to protect you in case it mutates into something deadly. Worked for me. Now it's smooth sailing, there's literally nothing that can go wrong. Everything is perfect
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Jul 21, 2021 19:10
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Spacebump posted:Over 1/10th of Milwaukee’s population being in the deer district last night during a pandemic was one of the most irresponsible things I’ve ever seen on tv. I saw 0 masks, Delta is about to mutate to the Deer District strain. That crowd would have been a cool thing in non pandemic times. Americans deciding the pandemic was basically over this summer is going to look bad by the winter. Giannis working on the tzatziki variant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU9fDDfTK-c Seriously, do not ask thousands of people to needlessly go to an airport or all places.
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Spacebump posted:Over 1/10th of Milwaukee’s population being in the deer district last night during a pandemic was one of the most irresponsible things I’ve ever seen on tv. I saw 0 masks, Delta is about to mutate to the Deer District strain. That crowd would have been a cool thing in non pandemic times. Americans deciding the pandemic was basically over this summer is going to look bad by the winter. i feel your sentiment but i wonder why they decided that.
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N: https://twitter.com/AROD/status/1417912345683120128?s=20 V: Congratulations to lifelong Minnesotan Alex Rodriguez
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Jul 21, 2021 19:32
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Dejan Bimble posted:My advice is just to get corona so you get some antibodies to protect you in case it mutates into something deadly. Worked for me. Now it's smooth sailing, there's literally nothing that can go wrong. Everything is perfect so do you spit in my mouth or should we make out or what. how does this work
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Jul 21, 2021 19:36
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That rear end in a top hat is definitely looking to move the team, even odds if he can actually make it happen, but I just know he is champing at the bit to do it.
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Jul 21, 2021 19:38
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player option opt out calendar:quote:July 25:
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OzFactor posted:N: https://twitter.com/AROD/status/1417912345683120128?s=20 His dream as a kid in New York, the Dominican and Miami was to own the Timberwolves, a team that was created when he was 14 years old. Azathoth posted:That rear end in a top hat is definitely looking to move the team, even odds if he can actually make it happen, but I just know he is champing at the bit to do it. Right now owners would make a lot more money on expansion instead. Which if Arod/Lore really wanted a team in Seattle would have seemed easier just to try to get that. But I'm not super confident in them staying either. hifi posted:player option opt out calendar: Putting in OP
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