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Timby posted:I just have this horrible gut feeling that its second-weekend box office will tank and we'll never see the second part. Honestly, yes, that's the most likely outcome. I've made peace.
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Idk I think people in this thread are seriously underestimating the pent up demand for movies post pandemic (yes I know its not actually post, you know what I mean). Pretty much every big movie released this year aside from real dogshit like in the heights or cruella has been raking in money.
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Jason Momoa is perfectly cast. He's like the human equivalent of a Bernard Sheppard: Strong, big, beautiful, majestic, goofy, dangerous, lovable, terrifying, cute. He gives Paul strength and heart by association and proximity without weakening him. deoju fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Jewmanji posted:Don’t underestimate the star power of Chalamet, Zendaya, Momoa and the rest. (Plus br2049 was kinda middling) Neither blade runners require reading the book to enjoy or make sense of BR2 had Ryan Gosling and Harrison loving Ford, those two alone is way more "star draw" than new dune, not to mention the rest of the cast This is a remake of a culty 80's movie, not sure it really has any more advantage than a sequel does I'm not saying it for sure will flop, I hope it's a hit! But we should prepare for the worst, as the genre predicates
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Blood Boils posted:This is a remake of a culty 80's movie, not sure it really has any more advantage than a sequel does Hey hey, it’s also a movie adaptation of a culty 60s sci-fi novel!
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Schwarzwald posted:Honestly, yes, that's the most likely outcome. I've made peace. I haven't. I'm still going to be pissed. And yeah, I think Jewmanji has a point. For all the similarities between this and BR2049, there are also plenty of differences. The cast is way more of a selling point (I think Momoa, Chalamet, Zendaya, and Oscar Isaac all have their own fanbases), and the broad plot of it is way more action-y and accessible than Blade Runner. Describing it as a Star Wars-esque YA fantasy isn't actually wrong. And I think Game of Thrones did this story a real solid by making war between feudal Houses palatable to popular tastes. The first Dune book isn't that weird in 2021. I'm not saying it'll earn Marvel money, but I'm not yet resigned to never getting Part 2. KaptainKrunk posted:The "problem" with Dune (not a big deal to me but I see the argument) is the lack of contrast in design between the imperial houses and Dune itself. Their costuming is not at all extravagant, having more of a utilitarian edge. Everything fits together, but it would have been more daring to up the ante and go for it design wise. I get it, but I'm still not convinced this will be a problem. House Atreides dresses simply, but that feels appropriate for who they are: not extravagant, fairly humble, tailored but ultimately human. The Fremen wear way more textural earth tones, natural-looking scarves and cloaks, which to my eye *does* contrast with the kind of clean, tailored look Paul has at first. Eventually they all start dressing like the Fremen, pragmatically because of the stillsuits but also thematically because that's the plot. Of course, House Harkonnen looks very distinct...they're a bunch of severe, hairless vampire people in cold BDSM leather. And then there were the people in all blinding white in the new trailer, who I assume were Spacing Guild? Which would also make sense: they're wealthy profiteers whose official policy is to keep their hands clean in feudal matters. Having them dress like ostentatious clergy serves that thought pretty well, if that's who they're supposed to be.
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MrYenko posted:Hey hey, it’s also a movie adaptation of a culty 60s sci-fi novel! It's the world's best selling science fiction novel.
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Blade Runner 2049 was great and it made far more money than the original did, adjusted for inflation. If the studio isn't happy with how much they made on it then that's just a function of how much they spent making and promoting it.
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Blood Boils posted:BR2 had Ryan Gosling and Harrison loving Ford, those two alone is way more "star draw" than new dune, not to mention the rest of the cast Maybe for people of a certain age. Teenage girls probably don’t give a poo poo about Harrison Ford
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Hasselblad posted:Looks like a bit may have veered from the text. I am going to assume these were two different scenes, cut together in the trailer for dramatic effect. As someone who liked BR2049, I have a good feeling for this Dune movie.
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as good as the footage looks visually part of me wants to see camp along the lines of https://youtube.com/watch?v=XI_dpBel6S0
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Xealot posted:The first Dune book isn't that weird in 2021. I'm not saying it'll earn Marvel money, but I'm not yet resigned to never getting Part 2. Not only is the first book not weird, the first half of the first book is about as straight forward as Sci-Fi gets.
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Jewmanji posted:I never understand where this notion that Dune has to look totally extravagant comes from. It’s not in the text. Lynch and Jodorowsky both took the fairly sparse physical descriptions and ran wild, but it’s not some great act of apostasy to render the visuals in a more subdued fashion. There’s plenty of striking visuals in the trailers, it just doesn’t smack you in the face with colors. The Baron's threads and all of the Harkonnen heraldry is a blue griffon on a white field and there's a lot of green and red on Atreides uniforms. If they actually did stick to what color info we get in the book it wouldn't be subdued at all. It's just kind of weak to me if everyone's wearing dark grey/black when in the book the characters' inner voices and the narration often puts so much reverence and importance on their respective factions' colors and symbols. That said, this trailer shows so more detailed outfits and colorful ones and I'm going to be seeing this in theaters opening night no matter what because it's Dune. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jul 23, 2021 |
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Not only is the first book not weird, the first half of the first book is about as straight forward as Sci-Fi gets. This is laughably untrue. What a weird thing to say!
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Salty Star Wars nerds trying to distract ppl from how their trilogy is just Dune but with less plot and more muppets. May the tooth be with you.
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phasmid posted:Salty Star Wars nerds trying to distract ppl from how their trilogy is just Dune but with less plot and more muppets. May the tooth be with you. Muppets Dune would whip rear end
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Jewmanji posted:This is laughably untrue. What a weird thing to say! The highest-grossing sci-fi movie is about blue cat people who connect their tails together to have sex.
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Neo Rasa posted:Muppets Dune would whip rear end I'm still kinda sad we didn't get Guillermo del Toro's live action Hobbit movie also.
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Jewmanji posted:It was typical in feudal times for the monarch to rotate the duchys or what have you, either as a political currency amongst his aristocrats or as a form of musical chairs. It was basically favor-trading. Shaddam has inward motives and outward motives. The outward motive is that each house basically gets a turn managing Arrakis because it’s too lucrative to become a permanent fief of any one house Depends on the country. I can't think of any European country that did so, but this was a famous tactic in the unification of Japan during the warring states era.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:The highest-grossing sci-fi movie is about blue cat people who connect their tails together to have sex. I’m not sure how that relates to whether Dune is “the simplest sci-fi book ever”?
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This movie will be yet another Dune adaptation not brave enough to have chairdogs so it's not really going to be an issue.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Depends on the country. I can't think of any European country that did so, but this was a famous tactic in the unification of Japan during the warring states era. Yeah, that wasn't a thing in Europe because somebody's fief was their personal property and they had armies to back that up (possibly larger than the monarch's own armies, depending on the time and place). Redistributing fiefs like that is only possible in a system where they were handed out to the nobility by a higher authority in the first place (like, you know, a space emperor).
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Neo Rasa posted:This movie will be yet another Dune adaptation not brave enough to have chairdogs so it's not really going to be an issue. I will do it. I will direct The Dosadi Experiment.
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Personally I would've liked them to go a bit harder on the spice eyes. I always pictured them as this rather startling alien look, a near uniform blue with just a black pupil swimming inside. But here they mostly just look like regular blue eyes with a slight tinge to the sclera.
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:But goddamn this faux-arabic ululating is in everything and I'm so sick of it I dont know, I like the anger myself. It doesnt sound to me like the typical wailing woman (ala Zach Snyder cut or half the James Horner scores) Here is the actual zimmer track. The trailer spliced it in with some trailer music from another guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdtiYwSP9ko
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Neo Rasa posted:This movie will be yet another Dune adaptation not brave enough to have chairdogs so it's not really going to be an issue. Arent chair dogs only developed between the fourth and fifth book?
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Neo Rasa posted:This movie will be yet another Dune adaptation not brave enough to have swan toilets so it's not really going to be an issue. FTFY
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Blood Boils posted:(Plus br2049 was kinda middling) That's like saying lotr was a remake of a culty 70s cartoon, while ignoring the massive source material fan base. Lynch version of dune was pretty horrible.
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AnEdgelord posted:Arent chair dogs only developed between the fourth and fifth book? Yeah, many thousands of years down the line
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DeafNote posted:I dont know, I like the anger myself. It doesnt sound to me like the typical wailing woman (ala Zach Snyder cut or half the James Horner scores) They should replace it with a Tarzan yodel. The wailing woman thing is on a level with the hawk shreek, both comically overused.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:The highest-grossing sci-fi movie is about blue cat people who connect their tails together to have sex. Nuh uh it was their… hair… brain.
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Hasselblad posted:That's like saying lotr was a remake of a culty 70s cartoon, while ignoring the massive source material fan base. Lynch version of dune was pretty horrible. It was! But that doesn't ignore it's source, plus Jackson's series take influences from the larger genre beyond the books anyways (hence Scottish dwarves from Warcraft and Vulcan elves from star trek) Disagree about lunch but 
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Gonna get chills at Oscar Isaac’s line reading of ”they tried to take the life of my son”
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Perestroika posted:Personally I would've liked them to go a bit harder on the spice eyes. I always pictured them as this rather startling alien look, a near uniform blue with just a black pupil swimming inside. But here they mostly just look like regular blue eyes with a slight tinge to the sclera. I have the same complaint, nobody ever depicts the eyes the way they're described in the book and it bums me out. My guess is filmmakers have tried it and it just doesn't work on screen for some reason.
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Look up people with dark eyeball tattoos. That’s how it would read on the screen, dark blue, even full black eyes in dark scenes. Very alien and unrelatable which is not something you want out of half your cast probably.
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DeafNote posted:I dont know, I like the anger myself. It doesnt sound to me like the typical wailing woman (ala Zach Snyder cut or half the James Horner scores) Where's the Toto?
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