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Veryslightlymad posted:The original version The Enforcers is my favorite "mysterious bad guy" theme of all time. It absolutely oozes with danger and cold, deadly menace; confidently beyond the listener's power.  I wouldn't put any of the Falcom games I've played in my top 10 game soundtracks, but every one of them has managed at least a couple of fantastic songs.
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Cold Steel I'll grant (though it does have some standout boss themes), but the Sky trilogy and Crossbell games have brilliant soundtracks. Go With Good Cheer, Silver Will, Whereabouts of Light, The Enforcers, The Fate of the Fairies, Fateful Confrontation, Liber-Ark, Zeiss...basically every track from Sky 3rd On the Green Road, Lemonade in Hand, Crossing the Steel Bridge, Get Over the Barrier, Inevitable Struggle, Unfathomed Force, The Azure Arbitrator, the Geofront....basically 80% of Crossbell is insanely good music
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I dunno man, stuff like Valestein Castle, Azure Arbitrator, Release of the Far West Ocean, the Ys 2 opening, Seeking The Vanished Mask, Sunshine Coastline, Inevitable Struggle, those are all lodged in my head.
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One of the things everyone always agreed was how their soundtracks were bangers. RIP Falcom
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Falcom still has Sonoda (I like more of his tracks than Unisuga's), and Singa can put out good tracks. The problem with Singa is that he isn't being used to his strengths, and he's being paid by how many tracks he puts out. If I was incentivized to place quantity over quality my stuff would become less and less good too. The one weak link is Jindo, as I think a lot of his stuff is "over-orchestrated" and sounds really noisy, to the point I turn my volume down. Kato could also try to make amends and try to get Falcom's blacklist from the Japanese music industry removed. Even if that fails, Falcom could still try to find talent overseas. IIRC one of the Geofront music folks submitted some of their own works to Falcom as a part of an application as a composer. Another problem doesn't have to do with the composers themselves, but whoever determines how the music is used in the game. In CS4 and Hajimari you have really inappropriate use of music, with some vocal songs that sound like love songs being used in scenes that aren't supposed to be romantic, killing the mood. Or you have a battle music track that plays on loop for over an hour.
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I wonder what 'makes' the Falcom Sound. Is it the guitars? The synth? The orchestral bits?
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Veryslightlymad posted:I think that's exactly how I built her. Yeah I didn't gently caress around with status orbments much but now I think I will. Estelle's flexible enough that I usually build her as a healer or a mage depending on the current party comp, but her autos are naturally strong enough to hit real hard even without atk orbments. Should see if i can fit a status on her without ruining my setup.
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Saoshyant posted:One of the things everyone always agreed was how their soundtracks were bangers. They still are, op
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Man the Cold Steel games had loving banger OSTs, especially for some of the dungeons. Spiral of Erebos, Phantasmal Castle, To the Future, all spectacular finale songs. Decisive Collision is also one of the best boss themes of the last decade and so is Unfathomed Force, which makes it even worse that Arianrhod not only gets ruined by CS4, the song doesn't even play for her fights.
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Can't forget To a Glimmering Tomorrow, the best final boss music ever.
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Rock in the Road, Crossing the Iron Bridge, Tower of Four Winds, Visions, Hamel, Liber Ark, Continuation of the Dream. Don't need to dip into battle themes to find great tracks at all. Falcom music owns. E: Actually though, I will grant, i always did find it weird individual artists aren't credited and I think that should change. BrightWing fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Jul 24, 2021 |
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I was watching a YouTube video for help with a Genshin Impact boss, and the person used Blue Destination for the music. Made me happy.
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Started the final chapter of Sky FC. Goodbye, my little gun baby. Too cool to stay in my party for long.
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Started CS3 and I didn't realise how much I missed these characters. Not even just the main party, I was really happy to see Patrick make an early appearance. It's a good feeling to be back in Erebonia. Interested in the new cast too, they make a solid first impression. CS1's my favourite Trails game and this is already going hard on the callbacks so even though I only played it a year ago it feels a bit nostalgic. I'm hoping this carries a lot of the same charm from the first game because CS2 struggled a bit, though it's had a good start so far.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Started CS3 and I didn't realise how much I missed these characters. Not even just the main party, I was really happy to see Patrick make an early appearance. It's a good feeling to be back in Erebonia. I’m just about to finish CS2 myself, and I had a blast throughout the whole thing. And I’m going to go back to the Sky games to prepare for CS3, so reading all of this is heartening
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100%ed YS IX, i'd say it's the weakest of the SEVEN-style games and feels kinda aimless overall, but it's still a good game. Still can't really get past the plot-crater of [big-ol-honkin-major-spoiler]why was Adol 1 in a jail cell to begin with and not in a big old Science Tube like the rest of the originals, actually the fact they take from his memories implies that they were actively moving him in and out of that lab, why. On a less-serious note, lol why was dark fact in the god-friends club. did we bond at some point or Inspector Gesicht posted:The castaway village theme was pretty grating as they'd play the serious music on a loop whenever there's a raid on. The serious music stays even if you finish that raid, mostly due to the circumstances the dinosaurs will never actually stop coming until you stop the lacramosa somehow, it's mostly just a bonus endgame thing for if you like raid fights or are a psycho completionist like me. e: also then I played oath of felghana on hard, and have learned that that game did not magically become not hard as balls in the 4 years since I last played it Yinlock fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxi6KY3EJG4 E: holy poo poo i shared this before i was even close to finishing it and drat, let me tell you: this video has an incredible twist halfway through Amppelix fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Jul 25, 2021 |
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Jul 25, 2021 20:53
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I finished Trails of Cold Steel 2 I teared up when Millium started crying for the first time, and everyone started crying with her I think Cold Steel 1 and 2 are up there on my all time favorite games  Time to play the Sky trilogy so I can be ready for Cold Steel 3 and 4
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SgtSteel91 posted:I finished Trails of Cold Steel 2 The final boss music perfectly capturing how not only every member of the cast feels, but also you feel knowing this is the final hurrah with these dudes cement that as the best scene in the series forever.
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MythosDragon posted:The final boss music perfectly capturing how not only every member of the cast feels, but also you feel knowing this is the final hurrah with these dudes cement that as the best scene in the series forever. Yeah, also helps that I made everyone so OP and had Crow there as well with the Phantasmal Mirror, the final boss rolled over. I felt like it was the cumulation of the hardships everyone overcame that year and made them so much stronger for it
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It’s good to see people playing Sky even after playing the Cold Steel games, FC feels kind of like a rough draft but they’re all truly great. Here are the voices for FC, just unzip and put them in your game’s steam folder, adds a lot of spunk to the game, especially Estelle. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByRG0bGlT6w_aXdiejZMUmxMSGM/view?usp=drivesdk&resourcekey=0-VXrw4D4f7ckGLcNgiwr3ng infraboy fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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VSM, you fool. Your theory about Andre being the fourth anguis/Thousand Oathbreaker has a serious hole in your reasoning. Namely Sharon. You have Sharon in your party in CS2. You can have Sharon in your party and you can talk to Andre. Thousand Oathbreaker was her superior before either of them even joined Ouroboros. If they were indeed the same person, doesn't it stand to reason that she would have some sort of reaction to his presence? One would think she would involuntarily react the instant that she noticed him.
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Veryslightlymad posted:VSM, you fool. Your theory about Andre being the fourth anguis/Thousand Oathbreaker has a serious hole in your reasoning. Namely Sharon. You have Sharon in your party in CS2. You can have Sharon in your party and you can talk to Andre. Thousand Oathbreaker was her superior before either of them even joined Ouroboros. If they were indeed the same person, doesn't it stand to reason that she would have some sort of reaction to his presence? Holy poo poo
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While that would be interesting, there are other Ouroboros agents in Bareahard at that time.
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Veryslightlymad posted:VSM, you fool. Your theory about Andre being the fourth anguis/Thousand Oathbreaker has a serious hole in your reasoning. Namely Sharon. You have Sharon in your party in CS2. You can have Sharon in your party and you can talk to Andre. Thousand Oathbreaker was her superior before either of them even joined Ouroboros. If they were indeed the same person, doesn't it stand to reason that she would have some sort of reaction to his presence? Amazing
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infraboy posted:It’s good to see people playing Sky even after playing the Cold Steel games, FC feels kind of like a rough draft but they’re all truly great. I recently tried getting into FC, and I just couldn't the same way I did with the Cold Steel series. FC definitely does feel more rough, and the battles and pacing just seemed way too slow for me. Aside from CS, is the rest of the LoH series the same as FC? I would love to play more, but if it's just more of the same then I might just wait until Reverie. I don't mind the grid-style turn-based combat, but maybe if it was tuned a bit more and controls were better.
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The five games of Sky and Crossbell largely all play the same, it's just balance changes here and there that change how you engage in most battles and thus how that might effect the pacing. One game you will go from using primarily Arts like Sky FC to Crafts and physical attacks in Sky SC. It was only until Azure that you started to get Master Quartz and the Burst system (both of which came into Cold Steel with the latter becoming Overdrive). I personally think Sky FC is just kind of a maudlin experience in general closer to a Zweii or Gurumin by design, and by the time they got to Sky SC there was enough of an increased emphasis on battle pace and Crafts (as well as general changes in focus/tone in the story to actually propel you forward) that it may (or may not!) be what gets you over the hump.
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Death Priest posted:While that would be interesting, there are other Ouroboros agents in Bareahard at that time. Yeah but Sharon's never had that sort of reaction before.
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That's a bit before you meet McBurn and Duvalie, right? I could see either of them getting that reaction, the former in particular.
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I'm nearly finished with Sky FC as my very first Trails game, just started the very final dungeon. Will be honest, I've had a lot of fun with this party of pals. Setting up orbment combos has been surprisingly fun, and I've found the combat to be decently interesting, although I think I'm severely overlevelled. I do know what happens at the end of FC thanks to reading the LPs ages ago, but it's been so long that I've forgotten all the details except for the really really big plot points so it's not been an issue. Also, music slaps.
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Dunno how anyone could complain about the pace of the first 5 games. Yeah they're long, but you're permenantly running them in turbomode, right? Meanwhile, all the voiced cutscenes in CS make you watch at normal speed, which to me really slows down the pacing, especially when there's 30 different characters in the scene.
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FC has turbomode?!?!
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BisterdDave posted:FC has turbomode?!?! Yep, it's been a lifesaver. One annoying thing I have learnt about the final FC dungeon is that it has 4 sets of ultimate armour but 2 are male-locked and the other 2 are female-locked. My final party is Estelle, Joshua, Khloe and Tita 
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Justin_Brett posted:That's a bit before you meet McBurn and Duvalie, right? I could see either of them getting that reaction, the former in particular. Well, specifically the former. The party already has a chance to talk to Duvalie earlier on and Sharon's reaction is a brief moment of surprise followed by an amused smile. Because nobody in Ouroboros ever takes Duvalie seriously. BisterdDave posted:FC has turbomode?!?! Yes, but only if you play the PC version. By the time it was patched into the Sky games, the PSP was dead and updates weren't possible for that one anymore. Erpy fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Erpy posted:Yes, but only if you play the PC version. By the time it was patched into the Sky games, the PSP was dead and updates weren't possible for that one anymore. Ahh, ok that explains why I never saw the option.
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ngl FC's final dungeon kinda sucks except for the music
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BisterdDave posted:Ahh, ok that explains why I never saw the option. Yeah, between the outdated translation, absence of Turbo mode, lack of auto-saves, lower-res portraits, disk swapping in SC and lack of a localized PSP version of the third game, it's really hard to recommend the PSP versions of the Sky arc.
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Death Priest posted:While that would be interesting, there are other Ouroboros agents in Bareahard at that time. Not on that screen. And she's reacting to someone closer.... Think about where McBurn is standing and talking to her in that scene--- she doesn't realize he's there until he's much closer. And she's taken aback there, too. "Oh dear..." She doesn't notice the two spying on her in the airport, even though McBurn has line of sight. She's reacting to something close. She can see Andre through the fence, (shown in video) might be able to hear his fiddle, and McBurn isn't on this screen. Why would she sense him here and not when he's right on top of her. Veryslightlymad fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jul 26, 2021 |
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Veryslightlymad posted:Not on that screen. CS2 She's most likely sensing Duvalie shadowing class 7 in the city. Mc Burn is probably not even close at this point since the dialogue at the airport suggests that he was not actually helping Duvalie (even though he was supposed to) and just decided to drop in at that very moment.
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 Yes because potential of fighting jaegers and robots has everything to do with music.... 
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