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Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

Achmed Jones posted:

i like clocks that have little panels with numbers on them and flip over every minute

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bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

endlessmonotony posted:

:jerkbag:

How about suggesting solutions that don't involve "it's always your fault if it doesn't work".

hey this is just the start of the classic wellpiss

i guess i get to be the exoskeleton w watches guy. you can go and get a faraday cage for your bed so you cant gently caress around on the internet in your bed

and then you can also make the dealios w wire mesh of conductive metal and a ground. nice diy project

bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 2, 2021

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


endlessmonotony posted:

:jerkbag:

How about suggesting solutions that don't involve "it's always your fault if it doesn't work".

hbag isn't interested in solutions. Every single post of theirs is a whine about current project/insomnia/life/butter being too loud

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

The capitalist solution for the problem capitalism caused should certainly work this time.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Armitag3 posted:

hbag isn't interested in solutions. Every single post of theirs is a whine about current project/insomnia/life/butter being too loud

Yeah but none of our solutions help with the underlying disorders anyway. This one needs a specialist doctor and those are a bit difficult with the NHS right now.

Generic-rear end bullshit helps nobody, it's only good for looking pompous online.

A Wheezy Steampunk
Jul 16, 2006

High School Grads Eligible!

AnimeIsTrash posted:

The capitalist solution for the problem capitalism caused should certainly work this time.

it's your fault for """choosing""" to be unhealthy

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

endlessmonotony posted:

Yeah but none of our solutions help with the underlying disorders anyway. This one needs a specialist doctor and those are a bit difficult with the NHS right now.

Generic-rear end bullshit helps nobody, it's only good for looking pompous online.

If hbag goes to a specialty sleep doctor, the first thing they're going to ask is "are you keeping your brain active by doing stuff with your computer or phone in bed way past the time you would like to be asleep? First stop doing that."

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.
:mad:

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Sagebrush posted:

If hbag goes to a specialty sleep doctor, the first thing they're going to ask is "are you keeping your brain active by doing stuff with your computer or phone in bed way past the time you would like to be asleep? First stop doing that."

Good to know, Doctor Sagebrush.

:jerkbag:

(No they loving don't.)

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
no one expects a teenager to have a good sleep schedule lol

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

bump_fn posted:

no one expects a teenager to have a good sleep schedule lol

i do

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
I like how the office has a water cooler with a digital readout counting the number of plastic bottles saved

and then has a stack of plastic cups next to it for people to use

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

That's like expecting Sagebrush to post good though.

I could go into a ridiculous amount of detail about the sleep schedule problems associated with illness like hbag's but... meh, it's pretty boring and helps hbag none until hbag gets professional help and they've got most of a decade of "loving about" left until accepting nobody else will fix their life for them and you can't just common sense and try harder your way out of a brain illness.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

oh i see so CHINESE COMMUNISTS want to tell ARE BOYS how to be FREE

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

endlessmonotony posted:

That's like expecting Sagebrush to post good though.

I could go into a ridiculous amount of detail about the sleep schedule problems associated with illness like hbag's but... meh, it's pretty boring and helps hbag none until hbag gets professional help and they've got most of a decade of "loving about" left until accepting nobody else will fix their life for them and you can't just common sense and try harder your way out of a brain illness.

im a sleep expert irl

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
so how do you know that hbag magically has problems similar to yours that you know about instead of garden variety dog poo poo sleep hygiene

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

ive done it more than practically anything else

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


fart simpson posted:

im a sleep expert irl

Prove it

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




endlessmonotony posted:

That's like expecting Sagebrush to post good though.

I could go into a ridiculous amount of detail about the sleep schedule problems associated with illness like hbag's but... meh, it's pretty boring and helps hbag none until hbag gets professional help and they've got most of a decade of "loving about" left until accepting nobody else will fix their life for them and you can't just common sense and try harder your way out of a brain illness.

You sure are armchair doctoring just as hard as anyone else

We don't know what hbag's diagnoses are, but we know that they have trash sleep hygiene and Sagebrush's blunt but true post about stopping the terminally online 24/7 bullshit and actually trying to establish a sleep routine will absolutely help

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

bob dobbs is dead posted:

so how do you know that hbag magically has problems similar to yours that you know about instead of garden variety dog poo poo sleep hygiene
We don't, but are making a conscious choice not to get boomer-brained over it.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:


im getting ready for bed as we speak, with literal decades of experience under my belt

Ellie Crabcakes
Feb 1, 2008

Stop emailing my boyfriend Gay Crungus

fart simpson posted:

im getting ready for bed as we speak, with literal decades of experience under my belt
I've got something under my belt with decades of experience too 😏

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

fart simpson posted:

im getting ready for bed as we speak, with literal decades of experience under my belt

funny thing is that research sleep doctors all do their research at night so they have godawful sleep

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Kazinsal posted:

if you're going to just make sweeping legislation to outlaw something in the name of environmental preservation you'd want to outlaw coal-fired power plants. you'll do a lot more than by outlawing reusable plastic takeout containers.

outlaw billionaires too while we're at it imo

https://twitter.com/SpiritofLenin/status/1421876702062448646

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



i dont think what sagebrush posted warrants any of this insane hostility

hop off your pedestal

its basic advice and nothing like being a doctor

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
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Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
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Fan Club



that is not to say you should do nothing but still - do what you can but realize its miniscule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji1xav4f77A

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Ellie Trashcakes posted:

I've got something under my belt with decades of experience too 😏

are you saying you’re fat?

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop

cinci zoo sniper posted:

im considering glass aye. i currently have ikea plastic with compartment inserts and poo poo is stained in weird ways and feels permanently oily to touch despite me basically boiling the pieces out of curiosity if the feeling would come off. the whole long term ownership experience is a bit?? also the multiple compartments' usefulness did wear off rather rapidly

the ones i have look basically the same as when i got them ~2 years ago.

Prep Naturals Glass Meal Prep Containers - Food Prep Containers with Lids Meal Prep - Food Storage Containers Airtight - Lunch Containers Portion Control Containers Bpa-Free (5 Pack, 30 Ounce) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06Y31WGWR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_KA9G3VM57ZPTFMMDRQ7J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

the single compartment seems most versatile. i have not managed to stain the plastic on the tops, they wash up in my dishwasher pretty clean.

i have frozen them too without a problem.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

fart simpson posted:

im getting ready for bed as we speak, with literal decades of experience under my belt

Sshh! The master is about to begin

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



i have 1 of these for myself from Superstore and it's amazing



im very weird about foods touching so this chills that out

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

lament.cfg posted:

You sure are armchair doctoring just as hard as anyone else

We don't know what hbag's diagnoses are, but we know that they have trash sleep hygiene and Sagebrush's blunt but true post about stopping the terminally online 24/7 bullshit and actually trying to establish a sleep routine will absolutely help

Bull-loving-poo poo.

Making a symptom journal about trying to establish a sleep schedule will help. Trying to establish a sleep schedule without documenting it will just result in us arriving back here.

Note to hbag: Don't post a symptom journal like that online, you need a professional to interpret it. Likewise, be actually honest instead of trying to hide your problems.

Vintersorg posted:

i dont think what sagebrush posted warrants any of this insane hostility

hop off your pedestal

its basic advice and nothing like being a doctor

It's basic advice that doesn't loving work. And it only serves to make hbag feel bad about not being able to do it.

I got the same advice hundreds of times and that's why it boils my piss.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

so how do you know that hbag magically has problems similar to yours that you know about instead of garden variety dog poo poo sleep hygiene

Because he's told us what his relevant diagnoses are, because the kid's a blabbermouth with zero opsec.

I know what they do and how they're relevant to sleep quality because I've been through that loving nightmare and I hateeed it and I'd do anything to have a quick fix. Anything.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

When you have several different foods on one plate, do you eat all of one before moving on to the next, or do you go back and forth?

I'm a back and forth kind of guy myself

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


depends on the foods

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




Sagebrush posted:

When you have several different foods on one plate, do you eat all of one before moving on to the next, or do you go back and forth?

I'm a back and forth kind of guy myself

Even distribution, reserving my favorite thing for the last bite

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


for instance if there's rear end on the table I always save it for last

Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


lament.cfg posted:

Even distribution, reserving my favorite thing for the last bite

This is the way, yes

e: keep a good two sips of whatever you're drinking for last too as a final stop

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
side dish interleaving is critical and by god i will finish the last bite of the three different things on the plate in subsequent bites at the end. you make the potatoes disappear when you still got half a chicken thigh on the plate? fail

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
just abuse diphenhydramine like I used to

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endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

Ellie Trashcakes posted:

We don't, but are making a conscious choice not to get boomer-brained over it.

This is the right approach by the way.

Stop giving the kid advice unless you know it will work, or at least be clear about how confident you are it will work.

I'd not give good odds to hbag making a sleep schedule with those problems that have me having had thousands of nights where I'm in bed at the right time and end up tossing and turning for five hours, unable to sleep no matter how much I try, only to then find myself waking up eighteen hours after I went to bed, tired as hell, sometimes covered in sweat, after weeks of impeccable sleep hygiene.

Longest I've ever gone without an episode disrupting my sleep schedule is three weeks.

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