hn thread: Lead is not a toxin, but is essential for the brain.

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Internet Janitor: May 17, 2008; "That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

Qwertycoatl posted:

halfjoking 17 hours ago [�]
The only way to insert a biological backdoor is to hide it in plain sight. To make it a vaccine that everyone, worldwide, including those already infected with the virus absolutely needs.
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when i mentioned we could put him on the priority list for the ambrosia vaccine, he was so willing it was almost pathetic

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 03:04

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

bob dobbs is dead posted:

heres an observation: there is almost no such thing as a conspiracy presented in a work of fiction that doesnt end up being true, often verbatim, due to checkovs gun

there's a lot of them when the conspiracy is coming from a joke character. none (or very few) of dale's conspiracy theories in koth are true, for example.

# ? Jul 29, 2021 17:57

Neon Noodle: Nov 11, 2016; there's nothing wrong here in montana

I cannot be court martialed twice

# ? Jul 29, 2021 20:40

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006; Can't post for 17 hours!

Nomnom Cookie posted:

yes, it's almost as if the last forty years have been a nearly-uninterrupted slide into ruin after the dominant party began an explicit policy of dismantling the ability of the federal government to do anything to help people, and the submissive party decided not to do anything to stop it

but because i can't help myself, heres what came to mind first: 2011, when medicaid saved my son's life. shut the gently caress up

you arent wrong and thats why the argument is compelling. if medicaid saved your kid then thank lbj because medicaid was a war on poverty initiative and idk if youve noticed but that happened 56 years ago now

# ? Jul 29, 2021 22:04

Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

Plorkyeran posted:

there's a lot of them when the conspiracy is coming from a joke character. none (or very few) of dale's conspiracy theories in koth are true, for example.

the koth reboot will be built on dale turning out to be correct about everything, the setting being the neighborhood as an enclave in a post-apocalyptic world

# ? Jul 29, 2021 22:11

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

LastInLine posted:

you arent wrong and thats why the argument is compelling. if medicaid saved your kid then thank lbj because medicaid was a war on poverty initiative and idk if youve noticed but that happened 56 years ago now

what did i say

# ? Jul 29, 2021 22:12

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006; Can't post for 17 hours!

Nomnom Cookie posted:

what did i say

that we are all doomed to die in the decaying remnants of empire lol

# ? Jul 29, 2021 22:47

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

LastInLine posted:

that we are all doomed to die in the decaying remnants of empire lol

i said shut the gently caress up

# ? Jul 29, 2021 23:12

ClassActionFursuit: Mar 15, 2006; Can't post for 17 hours!

Nomnom Cookie posted:

i said shut the gently caress up

lmao rude

# ? Jul 30, 2021 07:35

Xik: Mar 10, 2011; Dinosaur Gum

The context: Hundreds of AI tools have been built to catch covid. None of them helped. https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/07/30/1030329/machine-learning-ai-failed-covid-hospital-diagnosis-pandemic/

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She and her colleagues have looked at 232 algorithms for diagnosing patients or predicting how sick those with the disease might get. They found that none of them were fit for clinical use. Just two have been singled out as being promising enough for future testing.

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Both teams found that researchers repeated the same basic errors in the way they trained or tested their tools. Incorrect assumptions about the data often meant that the trained models did not work as claimed.

HN:

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briefcomment 3 hours ago | parent | favorite | on: Hundreds of AI tools have been built to catch Covi...
I'm curious what people find is more likely given this evidence:
- 100s of models were done incorrectly, and none even remotely correctly
- there is no phenomenon to correctly model
Both seem extremely unlikely. Not sure what the alternatives are.

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tablespoon 3 hours ago [�]
That's a false choice. There's also:
- Technology not suitable or adequate for this use case.
I mean, we've been to the "AI over-promises and under-delivers" rodeo before.

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briefcomment 3 hours ago [�]
You think a 100% failure rate on the hottest topic in the world right now is likely?

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briefcomment 2 hours ago [�]
You think AI is so primitive that we can't make any headway into the biggest problem we currently have? That seems like a fairly fringe view. Especially on a problem that has well defined data like medical imaging.

# ? Jul 31, 2021 06:05

epitaph: Dec 31, 2008

typical applications of ml = results equivalent to prng, most of the time

feel like this shouldn�t be controversial even to the hn crowd

# ? Jul 31, 2021 06:11

Internet Janitor: May 17, 2008; "That isn't the appropriate trash receptacle."

god drat

hn thread: You think a 100% failure rate on the hottest topic in the world right now is likely?

# ? Jul 31, 2021 06:37

mystes: May 31, 2006

HN is always bad but the level of crazy in threads about covid seriously makes me think humanity is doomed.

# ? Jul 31, 2021 12:05

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

no wonder the alien visitors the US Navy is monitoring don�t want to talk to us

# ? Jul 31, 2021 21:00

BobHoward: Feb 13, 2012; The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

quote:

quote:
briefcomment 2 hours ago [�]
You think AI is so primitive that we can't make any headway into the biggest problem we currently have? That seems like a fairly fringe view. Especially on a problem that has well defined data like medical imaging.

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hnnnnnngh

roflolololololololololololololol

# ? Aug 1, 2021 10:04

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

BobHoward posted:

lolllllllllllll
lolololololololol

hnnnnnngh

roflolololololololololololololol

visit the healthcare stories thread and show that to Asproigerosis

# ? Aug 1, 2021 18:42

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

BobHoward posted:

lolllllllllllll
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hnnnnnngh

roflolololololololololololololol

its easy, if there is a ruler in the picture its cancer

# ? Aug 1, 2021 18:51

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

yes but how much does this japanese croissant cost

# ? Aug 1, 2021 23:18

epitaph: Dec 31, 2008

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Buttons840 13 hours ago [�]

> Things seem to be hardest for younger single employees who don�t always have great work from home environments and are also sometimes lonely. Also, some of my coworkers with kids are having a hard time being productive with pressures from kids or spouses that don�t respect the working from home boundaries.

I agree this is a reality and has to be considered.

But we need to acknowledge that this is people's personal problems coming into the workplace. If there is going to be a compromise, at some point I'm going to at least want it acknowledged that Bob's personal problems are the reason I can no longer interact with my new born baby a few time throughout the day, and will thus spend significantly less time with them during this brief phase of their life. I also want it acknowledged that Bob's personal problems are the reason my risk of early death in a car accident are greatly increased. Otherwise, I'm going to feel that any "compromise" is forced.

It's a hard problem.

bet this guy also thinks having to pay taxes for public services is other people's poverty problems interfering with his ability to spend on private services

# ? Aug 2, 2021 06:46

dads friend steve: Dec 24, 2004

ok but forcing people back to the office when they can work from home just as well is stupid and lovely for all the reasons that guy mentioned and then some

# ? Aug 2, 2021 07:01

4lokos basilisk: Jul 17, 2008

i think this guys point is more like �people should not come to the office just because manager x can�t handle the situation at home / needs extroversion / whatever other �gut feeling� about wfh�

ie forcing blanket rto and ignoring all the people who made it work well and enjoyed it instead of thinking if there could be a better way than �back to normal�

# ? Aug 2, 2021 08:20

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

jollybean 10 minutes ago [�]

"my job is to do the absolute minimum amount I can do to stay under the radar, why would I try?"
Because it's a form of systematic corruption, maybe the biggest kind of corruption in the White Collar world.
The objective is to 'do a good job' , not the minimum, in every endeavour.
Doing the 'bare minimum' to keep a job is actually generally far under-performing, as most companies won't generally let people go.
It's how entire industries stagnate and sink.
When internal participants spend most of their time fighting over the surpluses, it's over.
This applies to companies as whole as well of course, i.e. the $1B government contracts that should only be $500M etc. etc..
Do a good job. If there's a better fit elsewhere, that's fine too.
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# ? Aug 3, 2021 19:18

Progressive JPEG: Feb 19, 2003

whilst posting at work i

# ? Aug 3, 2021 19:51

Nomnom Cookie: Aug 30, 2009

if capitalism won't give us a 20 hour workweek, we'll make it ourselves

# ? Aug 3, 2021 23:28

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

Nomnom Cookie posted:

if capitalism won't give us a 20 hour workweek, we'll make it ourselves

# ? Aug 4, 2021 00:43

Armitag3: Mar 15, 2020; Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.

Me: I want 20 hour workweek
Capitalism: We have 20 hour workweek at home
Me: :smuggo:

# ? Aug 4, 2021 12:19

4lokos basilisk: Jul 17, 2008

fritz posted:

jollybean 10 minutes ago [�]

"my job is to do the absolute minimum amount I can do to stay under the radar, why would I try?"
Because it's a form of systematic corruption, maybe the biggest kind of corruption in the White Collar world.
The objective is to 'do a good job' , not the minimum, in every endeavour.
Doing the 'bare minimum' to keep a job is actually generally far under-performing, as most companies won't generally let people go.
It's how entire industries stagnate and sink.
When internal participants spend most of their time fighting over the surpluses, it's over.
This applies to companies as whole as well of course, i.e. the $1B government contracts that should only be $500M etc. etc..
Do a good job. If there's a better fit elsewhere, that's fine too.
reply

this is probably a startup c level writing this as a part of their "80 hour work week"

omg what if the pointless webapp startup industry sinks and stagnates, what ever will we do :qq:

# ? Aug 4, 2021 12:35

4lokos basilisk: Jul 17, 2008

meanwhile, remember the vc bragging about how they outsourced most of their work to a (no doubt underpaid) executive assistant who worked remotely from the philippines

# ? Aug 4, 2021 12:36

Pile Of Garbage: May 28, 2007

fritz posted:

jollybean 10 minutes ago [�]

"my job is to do the absolute minimum amount I can do to stay under the radar, why would I try?"
Because it's a form of systematic corruption, maybe the biggest kind of corruption in the White Collar world.
The objective is to 'do a good job' , not the minimum, in every endeavour.
Doing the 'bare minimum' to keep a job is actually generally far under-performing, as most companies won't generally let people go.
It's how entire industries stagnate and sink.
When internal participants spend most of their time fighting over the surpluses, it's over.
This applies to companies as whole as well of course, i.e. the $1B government contracts that should only be $500M etc. etc..
Do a good job. If there's a better fit elsewhere, that's fine too.
reply

truly im speechless. this is a stunningly bad post.

# ? Aug 4, 2021 12:43

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

skee_0x4459 4 hours ago [�]

i was thinking about writing a novel now that im retired. i became uninterested in fiction completely about ten years ago. i just cant bring myself to care about something that didnt happen. it inevitably ends up being about people having sex or some kind of love triangle. no matter what novel, no matter how austere or dignified, if it was published in the past ten years then it uses some kind of visceral limbic-system mind bait. its some semi-interesting sci-fi with a whole lot of click bait slathered on top. even red mars, one of the only fictional books i like, has this problem.
but fiction can be worth it when its laying out ideas that are so new and so fresh that it is intrinsically valuable. but these grand visions dont involve people or relationships at their core, so making a book out of it can be difficult.
i think the next great sci-fi novel will be about mars. i feel like there are a lot of aspects of mars colonization that have not been picked up by the hive-mind yet. practical aspects of living there and moving things there. and generally applying the rules of today to that world. the arbitrage is in the fact that people usually paint the future with a utopian, optimistic brush but the same rules of economics and politics will apply on mars just as much as they do here. maybe that sounds like red mars but it would be different.
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# ? Aug 5, 2021 12:48

fritz: Jul 26, 2003

same individual:

skee_0x4459 7 hours ago | parent [�] | on: Apple enabling client-side CSAM scanning on iPhone...

how the gently caress am i supposed to know if that image i downloaded from some random subreddit is of a girl who is 17.98 years old? how long until we just use a NN to identify images of children automatically? she looks pretty young so i guess you will get disemboweled alive in prison? what is stopping someone from planting an image on your phone or a physical picture somewhere on your property? im so tired of this loving dogma around child porn. you can always identify the presence of dogma by the accompanying vacuum of logic that follows in its wake. a teenage girl can go to jail for distributing pictures that she took of herself. do i even need to say more?
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# ? Aug 5, 2021 12:51

lobsterminator: Oct 16, 2012

fritz posted:

skee_0x4459 4 hours ago [�]

i was thinking about writing a novel now that im retired. i became uninterested in fiction completely about ten years ago. i just cant bring myself to care about something that didnt happen. it inevitably ends up being about people having sex or some kind of love triangle. no matter what novel, no matter how austere or dignified, if it was published in the past ten years then it uses some kind of visceral limbic-system mind bait. its some semi-interesting sci-fi with a whole lot of click bait slathered on top. even red mars, one of the only fictional books i like, has this problem.
but fiction can be worth it when its laying out ideas that are so new and so fresh that it is intrinsically valuable. but these grand visions dont involve people or relationships at their core, so making a book out of it can be difficult.
i think the next great sci-fi novel will be about mars. i feel like there are a lot of aspects of mars colonization that have not been picked up by the hive-mind yet. practical aspects of living there and moving things there. and generally applying the rules of today to that world. the arbitrage is in the fact that people usually paint the future with a utopian, optimistic brush but the same rules of economics and politics will apply on mars just as much as they do here. maybe that sounds like red mars but it would be different.
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I didn't know robots retired.

# ? Aug 5, 2021 12:52

kitten emergency: Jan 13, 2008; get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

lobsterminator posted:

I didn't know robots retired.

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tracecomplete: Feb 26, 2017

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28087309

HN is absolutely not full of racists you guys

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Jose Valasquez: Apr 8, 2005

most of the comments on that seem surprisingly fine?

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tracecomplete: Feb 26, 2017

Jose Valasquez posted:

most of the comments on that seem surprisingly fine?

turn on showdead.

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Doom Mathematic: Sep 2, 2008

Wait. There's a whole secondary layer of awful HN posts which you're all rooting around in? For content for this thread?

# ? Aug 6, 2021 23:41

Achmed Jones: Oct 16, 2004

tracecomplete posted:

turn on showdead.

absolutely not

# ? Aug 6, 2021 23:45

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

also click more a few times because dang tried to bury all of the bad threads

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tracecomplete: Feb 26, 2017

Doom Mathematic posted:

Wait. There's a whole secondary layer of awful HN posts which you're all rooting around in? For content for this thread?

showdead is where the real poo poo goes. I leave it on because I can use the reminder.

Also because I like when I flag a post, see it click over, and am perversely gleeful seeing it go to [dead].

Plorkyeran posted:

also click more a few times because dang tried to bury all of the bad threads

Killed posts, whether flagged or nuked, go to the bottom. I think it's mostly user killed stuff. I flagged seemingly half the goddamn thread today.

# ? Aug 7, 2021 06:21

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