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Idris Elba as Dalinar and Angela Basset as Navani would be the only acceptable casting tbh.
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Phone posting, I don't remember the name of that awesome actress who plays Avarasala on The Expanse, it would be really cool to see her as Navani.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Idris Elba as Dalinar and Angela Basset as Navani would be the only acceptable casting tbh. That would be perfect.
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Aug 5, 2021 16:52
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I like Lynn Whitfield for Navani.
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Jonathan Favreau - Wax Idris Elba - Wayne
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External Organs posted:Jonathan Favreau - Wax I hate you. Kevin Hart as Wax Dwayne Johnson as Wayne Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Aug 5, 2021 |
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Aug 5, 2021 16:59
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Mordiceius posted:Going from the Mistborn trilogy, which is some kill-or-be-killed fantasy to a more modern-ish setting feels like total whiplash. Late to this but I was going crazy with where I saw this same type of jarring world transformation and walked in on my kids watching Korra a bit ago and realized the same type of transition happened from Aang to Korra's world. I haven't read AoL yet but it seems like the same type of change.
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Mordiceius posted:I hate you. Say what you will, but whoever plays Wayne is going to need to loving excel at wearing a hat. 
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Louisgod posted:Late to this but I was going crazy with where I saw this same type of jarring world transformation and walked in on my kids watching Korra a bit ago and realized the same type of transition happened from Aang to Korra's world. I haven't read AoL yet but it seems like the same type of change. It’s jarring and weird but also cool and good and more media should tell stories where the setting evolves between eras instead of staying static
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Mordiceius posted:It’s jarring and weird but also cool and good and more media should tell stories where the setting evolves between eras instead of staying static Oh totally, it's not a bad thing at all, I was racking my brain with where I saw a similar transition (with 'magic' and all) and realized both world evolutions are similar.
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Aug 5, 2021 17:20
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I feel like Sanderson has a very cinematic style of writing. Reading/listening to the books felt more like experiencing a movie than a book. I feel like the Wax and Wayne books really benefit from this. Also W&W4’s first draft is officially done as of today.
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Mordiceius posted:
https://twitter.com/BrandSanderson/status/1423320505839325191?s=19 I am SO pumped!
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Waxillium turned to- The door slammed open. Wayne reached over for- The wall exploded inward. As soon as I notice this, I really noticed it. Made me laugh because he does it like five times within the first three chapters of Shadow of Self.
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Aug 6, 2021 22:46
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Mordiceius posted:Waxillium turned to- lmao aaahahaha I was reading my kids some Alcatraz last night and he did just that, so funny.  tbf it's not a bad literary device as big things don't just conveniently happen once a conversation ends or whatever, but you definitely do notice a pattern.
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Mordiceius posted:Waxillium turned to- hah i hadn't noticed this but yeah i can see how that kinda thing lets you keep the fast-paced "cinematic" style by letting the events in the narrative interrupt the (nonexistent) narrator
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Aug 6, 2021 23:27
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All authors have stuff like this but I think Sanderson's are pretty noticeable, especially on re-reads. I jumped from a finished WoT re-read to a Malazan re-read and the difference in the writing, especially the dialogue presentation, is extremely amusing. (And, to be clear, I read other stuff too, I just usually have a familiar doorstopper fantasy series for right-before-falling-asleep reading to help turn my brain off.)
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aparmenideanmonad posted:All authors have stuff like this but I think Sanderson's are pretty noticeable, especially on re-reads. anime levels in malazan, at least in book 1, are equally high though
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For sure, Rake is one of the most anime characters in all of western genre fiction.
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I should probably check out Malazan sometime. Maybe once I finish churning through the Cosmere.
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I may give it another go someday. I've bounced off it HARD multiple times.
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Proteus Jones posted:I may give it another go someday. I read 8.5 books of it before I gave up because I didn't understand what the gently caress was happening or why it was happening or who 3/4ths of the characters were. I'm never trying again.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:I read 8.5 books of it before I gave up because I didn't understand what the gently caress was happening or why it was happening or who 3/4ths of the characters were. I'm never trying again. Yeah, I don't remember which book I made it to, but I definitely remember thinking "now who the gently caress are these people and why do I care what's happening right now?"
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Maybe I won’t try Malazan. I remember reading the first 50 pages of the first book one time before getting distracted. Maybe it makes me lame, but I don’t have the time or patience for books that feel like work. It is one of the reasons that I really enjoy Sanderson’s work, the books are easy reads. And I mean that in the most complementary of ways.
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Mordiceius posted:Maybe I won’t try Malazan. I remember reading the first 50 pages of the first book one time before getting distracted. Maybe it makes me lame, but I don’t have the time or patience for books that feel like work. It is one of the reasons that I really enjoy Sanderson’s work, the books are easy reads. And I mean that in the most complementary of ways. No, you're not lame. Malazan is completely impenetrable. There was one book that was completely stand alone in the middle that I really liked (tides of midnight) though.
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Malazan has some very high highs and conclusions comparable to Sanderslanches. But impenetrable isn't wholly inaccurate. It's dense, unforgiving, and melancholic and definitely not something that would appeal to most people. I still loved it, and its themes of compassion and sacrifice resonated with me deeply. I'd have a hard time recommending it compared to something like Stormlight however, which is much more accessible and fun. Midnight Tides is definitely one of the highlights, though it's not standalone in the slightest.
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New Yorp New Yorp posted:I read 8.5 books of it before I gave up because I didn't understand what the gently caress was happening or why it was happening or who 3/4ths of the characters were. I'm never trying again. Trying to read the first book felt like I'd need a spreadsheet to keep track of things. I get that the story is apparently based on a GURPS(?) campaign he ran with friends but Malazan just feels like a mess.
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The first book is the worst by far in terms of writing quality, which doesn't help anyone trying to get into the series. Iirc, I personally quit the first book, next try I quit after the 4th book (Karsa is a great character and an awful person), then I quit during the 8th book. Finally finished it when the tenth book was released. It is a series where you really have to be content with not knowing what's going on for hundreds of pages at a time. A lot of stuff will not make sense until a reread. This will be my 4th reread, and I realized a bunch of new stuff on my 3rd. I greatly prefer it to anything Sanderson's done. The world feels dangerous and mysterious and the author makes you figure stuff out by witnessing it rather than by telling you, but yeah it's not easy to get through at first. Also, bonehunters > bridge burners, fight me.
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I’ve tried two or three times. I make it through the first and usually bounce off the second iirc
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aparmenideanmonad posted:All authors have stuff like this but I think Sanderson's are pretty noticeable, especially on re-reads. I’ve noticed that occasionally he will get hung up on characters emoting a certain way and use it over and over in some books. In The Well of Ascension for example everyone is constantly sighing. And I think it’s The Way of Kings where everyone is always setting their jaw and making a line with their lips
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Oh hey, in Rhythm of War (Mistborn spoilers), did Hoid riot Ruthar to make him lose his cool and go against Jasnah? We all assume he used that piece of Lerasium from the Well of Ascension to become a full mistborn, right? So he should be able to use emotional allomancy. It would explain why Jasnah was so very confident that everything would go according to plan, that she already convinced Ruthar's son to take over for his father, and that she had Renarin close by to heal him, as well as the law forbidding duels ready to be proclaimed as well.
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acumen posted:Malazan has some very high highs and conclusions comparable to Sanderslanches. But impenetrable isn't wholly inaccurate. It's dense, unforgiving, and melancholic and definitely not something that would appeal to most people. Tavore's speech and entire arc killed me. When Erikson puts time into his characters, it's good. When he doesn't, I feel like he starts off with a set of pre-determined cardboard cutouts and just slaps a different name on them. It's a cast of tens of thousands, but probably really say 40 or so really fleshed out characters, because about 18,000 of them can be reduced down to like 20. Evil Fluffy posted:Trying to read the first book felt like I'd need a spreadsheet to keep track of things. I get that the story is apparently based on a GURPS(?) campaign he ran with friends but Malazan just feels like a mess. It's more that Erikson doesn't do exposition at all. Malazan is all show and no tell. Internal monologue for POV characters are as they would really think, without courtesy reminders of what this or that concept/thing/person is. You have to work it out for yourself via context or inference.
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Torrannor posted:Oh hey, in Rhythm of War (Mistborn spoilers), did Hoid riot Ruthar to make him lose his cool and go against Jasnah? We all assume he used that piece of Lerasium from the Well of Ascension to become a full mistborn, right? So he should be able to use emotional allomancy. It would explain why Jasnah was so very confident that everything would go according to plan, that she already convinced Ruthar's son to take over for his father, and that she had Renarin close by to heal him, as well as the law forbidding duels ready to be proclaimed as well. i don't know if it's confirmed that he did but it's definitely confirmed that he has that capability
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So I started reading WoT for the first time a few days ago (mostly because the show coming out soon finally made me take the plunge). The inspiration from LOTR is obvious, but I can't help but laugh at all the little things Brandon then used from even the first 20% of the first WoT book in his series (especially Stormlight). I mean when I see "Dark Eyes" in WoT I had to laugh.
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He was a big WoT fan, so it's absolutely not surprising that he took inspiration from it for his own works. And the series as a whole was quite influential for a number of fantasy authors, it was a really big deal during it's time.
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Torrannor posted:He was a big WoT fan, so it's absolutely not surprising that he took inspiration from it for his own works. And the series as a whole was quite influential for a number of fantasy authors, it was a really big deal during it's time. It was genre-defining when it was new, just like GRRM was genre-defining. Other authors have taken the ball and run with it since then but it can be hard to remember just how mind-blowing these books were when they were new.
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Yeah I think this: https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/Source:EUOLogy:_Goodbye_Mr._Jordan Was what got Harriets attention at first. Sanderson was a huge huge fan quote:Source:EUOLogy: Goodbye Mr. Jordan
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Very random question, but in Oathbringer, when Shallan, Adolin, Kaladin and Azure was on a boat and they were about to be attacked by a bunch of Fused. Azure decided to stay on that boat, presumably to fight them and she asked the crew to cut a bunch of paper into a human shaped. What is she planning to do there? I know that she can use Biochromatic Breath but what exactly was she going to do?
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davidHalestorm posted:Very random question, but in Oathbringer, when Shallan, Adolin, Kaladin and Azure was on a boat and they were about to be attacked by a bunch of Fused. Azure decided to stay on that boat, presumably to fight them and she asked the crew to cut a bunch of paper into a human shaped. What is she planning to do there? I know that she can use Biochromatic Breath but what exactly was she going to do? We don't know for sure what command she was going to use, but we do know from Warbreaker that things in the shape of people require less breath to awaken, so if you have the time to be efficient with the resource, you might as well. I'm assuming the command would be something like "defend me" or something like that. External Organs fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Aug 9, 2021 |
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How many scraps of paper does it take to bring down a shardbearer
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External Organs posted:We don't know for sure what command she was going to use, but we do know from Warbringer that things in the shape of people require less breath to awaken, so if you have the time to be efficient with the resource, you might as well. I'm assuming the command would be something like "defend me" or something like that. Interesting. Never read Warbreaker, myself but I'm assuming that Azure is a powerful magic user. Still, it's hard to imagine that paper could help her in a fight with a bunch of Fused, even if she also has a "shardblade" with her.
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