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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.


People are noticing the "mark for yourself" line, but to me it's the "the locker room would have kicked your arse" thing. Zack goes "but the locker room likes me", and HHH gets huffy.

Like HHH can't understand why the goofy personable fun dude has friends in the locker room, and why people aren't taking a silly clearly joke belt super seriously enough to get offended by it.

Then he blames this locker room bonhomie, and lack of tension/aggression between performers as the reason people no longer want to watch the show that starts with him doing a 20 minute "serious" promo.

gently caress HHH.

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
an edit if anyone ever wanted to have a little Danhausen fanhausen badge

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

boxcarhobo posted:

i think its that and that hes always been a mega mark for this version of how wrestling was in the 80s and 90s that mostly just exists in his head, also displayed by how desperately he wanted ric to love him

This feels like the key. HHH has never been 'the guy' no matter how much hanging around Shawn or putting himself with Austin or having his own Four Horsemen in Evolution he did. Even on top it doesn't feel like anybody respects him, not that I think he's done a lot to earn it.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

smarxist posted:

an edit if anyone ever wanted to have a little Danhausen fanhausen badge



thats a p good gangtag for those who would want one, good job

HidaO-Win
Jun 5, 2013

"And I did it, because I was a man who had exhausted reason and thus turned to magicks"

Dawgstar posted:

This feels like the key. HHH has never been 'the guy' no matter how much hanging around Shawn or putting himself with Austin or having his own Four Horsemen in Evolution he did. Even on top it doesn't feel like anybody respects him, not that I think he's done a lot to earn it.

He is in fact a B+ player.

Orange Carlisle
Jul 14, 2007

in the words of sturgill simpson he's king turd on the top of poo poo mountain

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
Trips is the D-Bry wrestlemania storyline except the fans know deep down in their hearts that HHH is B+ personified

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

HHH is DJ Hyde with a national TV deal.

Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008


this is why the houses are half empty mother fucker. Binch. don't tell him i said this

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

Dawgstar posted:

This feels like the key. HHH has never been 'the guy' no matter how much hanging around Shawn or putting himself with Austin or having his own Four Horsemen in Evolution he did. Even on top it doesn't feel like anybody respects him, not that I think he's done a lot to earn it.

More than that, it's very obvious that HHH wants desperately to be "the guy," and it came off forced and cringey even when he was drawing money. Eventually he became "the guy" because everyone else left and he was booking, but he never had the natural rapport with fans that Austin, Rock, and Foley had.

Like, Cody Rhodes is a dork but he comes at it from a somewhat more relatable place (a guy who quit WWE and invested in himself to find success on his own terms) and he's at least dimly aware that he's a dork. HHH doesn't have that going for him.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
HHH probably doesn't even know what a zelda is



disgusting

neoaxd
Nov 13, 2004

Cavauro posted:


this is why the houses are half empty mother fucker. Binch. don't tell him i said this

#KingofKings
holy lol

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Cavauro posted:


this is why the houses are half empty mother fucker. Binch. don't tell him i said this

TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAAAME

HUEHUEHUE

*immediately loses the game in the first move, it's not clear what his strategy was*

TTBF
Sep 14, 2005



Pamela Springstein posted:

I wish we could have shows again :sigh: I liked the eccw shows I went to but Scotty Mac is a antivax chud and the other owner got speaking outed so I wont be supporting them anymore. there are shows running in the bc interior but the other local indy ASW hasnt started back up yet. I miss it.

There's a new promotion starting up soon in BC. Maybe they'll be in your area.

FUCKFACE MORON
Apr 23, 2010

by sebmojo

neoaxd posted:

#KingofKings
holy lol
lmao i never noticed that before

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
i dont know if wwe does it anymore but they used to really loving put over hashtags for segments that they wanted people to use to tweet along

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
The arenas are half empty because all the Hunters bought tickets but all their friends named Mark didn't.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

KungFu Grip posted:

i dont know if wwe does it anymore but they used to really loving put over hashtags for segments that they wanted people to use to tweet along

#BossBabyOnRAW

Hedgehog Pie
May 19, 2012

Total fuckin' silence.
He's right that ten years earlier the locker room would've beat him up because in 2000 to be Internet Champion you would've needed AOL keywords and therefore you were with WCW.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



CombineThresher posted:

Like, Cody Rhodes is a dork but he comes at it from a somewhat more relatable place (a guy who quit WWE and invested in himself to find success on his own terms) and he's at least dimly aware that he's a dork. HHH doesn't have that going for him.

HHH would never let Malakai Black knock him the gently caress out in the middle of a retirement speech, and that's why HHH will always be trash. :colbert:

britishbornandbread
Jul 8, 2000

You'll stumble in my footsteps
In 2011, Hunter was killing the hottest Punk run ever in WWE and burying a guy who got himself over on the internet. Very busy.

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I know "____ was always bad" is a bit of a cliche around here but I have maintained that Trips sucked in some form or fashion since I was like...10. So I will take the high score medal for being right all along. It doesn't make up for all the other Ls I've taken along the way, but it's some comfort.

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


The central difference between Triple H and Cody for me is in both what they're trying to do and how they're trying to do it

I could be very wrong but my general impression of Cody is that he wants his legacy to be a successful wrestling promotion. He's ambitious enough right now to feel that the best way to get there is for him to be a top guy and build other people up. Sometimes that involves him winning matches I'd rather he lost, but it also means that beating Cody can absolutely make you. Triple H on the other hand wants his legacy to be that he was every bit as popular and over as The Rock and Stone Cold. Which he wasn't. So he has to compensate.

In terms of how they do it, Cody wins a lot but he also spends a lot of time in and out of the ring getting other people over. Doing things like the Fuego stuff on Sammy's vlog didn't get Cody over but it sure as hell made people care about Fuego. The whole Nightmare Family setup might make Cody look like a big deal but primarily it gives his trainees greater status and opportunity. You wouldn't have got Lee Johnson's excellent performance against Miro without Cody and Dustin mentoring him. Triple H by contrast seems largely to get over at the expense of people, no matter how many "points at the guy" selfies he takes.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Shinjobi posted:

I know "____ was always bad" is a bit of a cliche around here but I have maintained that Trips sucked in some form or fashion since I was like...10. So I will take the high score medal for being right all along. It doesn't make up for all the other Ls I've taken along the way, but it's some comfort.

My time as a wrestling fan as a child was pretty limited, more or less 99-01 WWF.

I can honestly say that Triple H was the single wrestler who most turned me off from the show.

Even if the comparisons between Triple H and Cody being extremely self-indulgent are fair (they aren't), Cody at least has the decency to put on matches that are entertaining.

britishbornandbread
Jul 8, 2000

You'll stumble in my footsteps
Also, if those houses were half empty in 2011, what the gently caress are they looking like now, Paul?

Zombie Lemur
Jul 6, 2009

Empyrean empties
Even at Cody's most self indulgent he was doing self contained segments that took up, what? Like 15 minutes? If he was doing more than that it generally ended with someone else going over.

At Triple H's worst he was making GBS threads up the whole show and everything revolved around him.

Cody gets destroyed by his own hubris as a face, while heel HHH barely faced any comeuppance.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



And Cody clearly is self-aware. That "well, so many things going on in the world today *BOOT*" promo alone was better than anything HHH ever did.

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!
Hunter Hearst "The Game" "The King Of Kings" "The Asskicker" "The Cerebral Assassin" "The Connecticut Blueblood" "The Creator" "The Destroyer" Helmsley seems like he may be kinda a self-serious super doofus ngl

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Cody borrows heavily from the book of HHH but unlike Hunter he actually does it well.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



https://twitter.com/heathermayrie85/status/1423285858405285901

After Dynamite Fuego changed his Twitter name to "Fuego's Ghost" and ... well...

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
It's not a work, he died.

Lamuella
Jun 26, 2003

It's like goldy or bronzy, but made of iron.


rip in peace fuego, you shined shoes to death

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
They already gave Fuego one plot rez after he got murdered by Malakai Black, no second chances :colbert:

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Cerebral Bore posted:

They already gave Fuego one plot rez after he got murdered by Malakai Black, no second chances :colbert:

I dunno, Nyla was looking for a necromancer and they'll need one anyway for Adam Cole so might as well get Fuego at the same time and save the second trip.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Yeah, but Triple H never did a gender reveal on national television. :colbert:

sticklefifer
Nov 11, 2003

by VideoGames
"Fueghost" was right there.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


This is a great read about Eaton perfecting the southern tag team match formula

https://twitter.com/fanfyte/status/1423369727792009227?s=21

Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.
https://twitter.com/TheMarkHenry/status/1423634825492279297

Dave, will you take Mark Henry by the hand and explain niche pornography to him?

Lead Pipe Cinch
Mar 10, 2003

Heavy Metal Bakesale


Mr. Squishy posted:

https://twitter.com/TheMarkHenry/status/1423634825492279297

Dave, will you take Mark Henry by the hand and explain niche pornography to him?

Faye Jackson on the case:
https://twitter.com/fayejackson419/status/1423635265835479042?s=21

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

inthesto posted:

My time as a wrestling fan as a child was pretty limited, more or less 99-01 WWF.

I can honestly say that Triple H was the single wrestler who most turned me off from the show.

Even if the comparisons between Triple H and Cody being extremely self-indulgent are fair (they aren't), Cody at least has the decency to put on matches that are entertaining.

Also of his 4 major losses in AEW, 3 of them were by clean pinfall (Brodie, Darby, Malakai).

HHH would never let someone knock him out like Black did, then pin him with one foot. Closest he's come is letting Sheamus take him to the woodshed but even that was severely undercut by the followup booking, IMO.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoosterTeeth/status/1423310923058585610

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Aug 6, 2021

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