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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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We just won a big election, sure our stability should be higher than that? Oh Bollocks, why am I at the top of the page?

Erm, I am really enjoying this and wish I could contribute more in a meaningful way that isn't just me asking basic rear end questions.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 12, 2021

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Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

Josef bugman posted:

Does Azerbaijan coming over to us mean that we now possess a great deal more oil?

We don't possess it, but we can trade for it. It's still good news because we can trade for it overland (not having to worry about losing transport ships due to naval battles), and if we lose our domestic production somehow, we still have a backup.

Redeye Flight
Mar 26, 2010

God, I'm so tired. What the hell did I post last night?

Kangxi posted:

We don't possess it, but we can trade for it. It's still good news because we can trade for it overland (not having to worry about losing transport ships due to naval battles), and if we lose our domestic production somehow, we still have a backup.

And we also can't lose it if Azerbaijan decides to go in a different political direction, now.

e-dt
Sep 16, 2019

Josef bugman posted:

We just won a big election, sure our stability should be higher than that? Oh Bollocks, why am I at the top of the page?

Erm, I am really enjoying this and wish I could contribute more in a meaningful way that isn't just me asking basic rear end questions.

50% stability is the "average" stability - at less than 50% stability you get debuffs, at more you get buffs. If you're at war your stability drops 30%, so we were at a quite good 80% stability before the war.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


karmicknight posted:

tanks are good, but CAS is better.

It's situational based on how your fights are working out. All things being equal, I'd rather have the same production's worth of tanks than of CAS planes.

Concentrated armor penetrates fronts and encircles armies, whereas CAS (when you can get the air superiority for it to work) will move an entire front forward.

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010
I'm not a long time follower of this thread but I'm familiar with HoI4. The Byzantine set up doesn't seem too bad?

Near parity already on the continent, fixed fortifications to hold behind until the faction's superior manpower and industry can be brought to bear. The French don't seem to have a domestic source of oil.

As a player I'd look at this and take these odds without blinking. I'd even give the pure AI more than even money: you can see with China that simple weight of arms matters a huge deal.

The details are in the division templates, of course. An initial breakthrough early can go badly for you, since once you're pushed out of your initial defensive positions it might be difficult to reestablish a defensive line. And the AI is very likely to just relentlessly attack until they break or you do.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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e-dt posted:

50% stability is the "average" stability - at less than 50% stability you get debuffs, at more you get buffs. If you're at war your stability drops 30%, so we were at a quite good 80% stability before the war.

Dang, that seems like a big drop. Especially considering we are the defensive partner in this instance. What are the debuffs and buffs like?

Kangxi posted:

We don't possess it, but we can trade for it. It's still good news because we can trade for it overland (not having to worry about losing transport ships due to naval battles), and if we lose our domestic production somehow, we still have a backup.

Redeye Flight posted:

And we also can't lose it if Azerbaijan decides to go in a different political direction, now.

That's good to know as well, thank you both!

I know our forts in Italy are "good"/great and the ones in Hungary are probably average(ish)? I just hope that we can turn that into something good. The french getting blockaded for a few months and losing the ability to replace either manpower or tanks seems like it'd be a hell of a thing.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011

Josef bugman posted:

4) How likely is it that the Gallic empire spends an awful lot of manpower trying to break through Hungary?

over/under a thousand percent.

Josef bugman posted:

Dang, that seems like a big drop. Especially considering we are the defensive partner in this instance. What are the debuffs and buffs like?

If we are below 50% you can get strikes (big maluses to production and also a crisis you have to deal with that is super annoying.) (I think, I've deffo had strikes at 45% and been real mad about it)

wiegieman posted:

It's situational based on how your fights are working out. All things being equal, I'd rather have the same production's worth of tanks than of CAS planes.

Concentrated armor penetrates fronts and encircles armies, whereas CAS (when you can get the air superiority for it to work) will move an entire front forward.

CAS is damage that ignores penetration and air superiority (and I think CAS missions) slows down the enemy in general (especially enemy tanks). You only need a single 40w tank to win a war, but overwhelming CAS is a guarantee of not losing, especially if you want to take a defensive posture and just bleed the enemy.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
regardless planecount is super important

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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What are our planes like?

Also I will laugh for a very long time if the French airforce cannot fly because they have no oil. Lightning war this you none logistics studying dicks.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jul 12, 2021

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


karmicknight posted:


CAS is damage that ignores penetration and air superiority (and I think CAS missions) slows down the enemy in general (especially enemy tanks). You only need a single 40w tank to win a war, but overwhelming CAS is a guarantee of not losing, especially if you want to take a defensive posture and just bleed the enemy.

CAS won't fly if you don't have a certain percentage of air superiority. You can assign the planes, but the mission won't happen.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
That just means you have to have air superiority. Which you should have in the first place.

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
planecount is king, baby.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


In an ideal world, yes, you have air superiority. But if I have to choose where to prioritize my production, I'll get a functioning mech force together and put some AA in my infantry units rather than build CAS and the fighters to enable them.

Dance Officer
May 4, 2017

It would be awesome if we could dance!
You can often get away with that in single player yes, but it's a very bad idea against actual humans

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Time to show those fascist bastards what a real Rome looks like.

Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

AJ_Impy posted:

Time to show those fascist bastards what a real Rome looks like.

[iouliana erdemir voice] no! no no no no!!!

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011
Is that somebody conspiring to to restore the empire of rome I see?

ZiegeDame
Aug 21, 2005

YUKIMURAAAA!
What is that city in the middle of the Italian peninsula like these days, anyway?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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ZiegeDame posted:

What is that city in the middle of the Italian peninsula like these days, anyway?

Probably quite nice to visit.

The technological level is pretty much as ours was, but with more trains and less cars.

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

Morrow posted:

I'm not a long time follower of this thread but I'm familiar with HoI4. The Byzantine set up doesn't seem too bad?

Near parity already on the continent, fixed fortifications to hold behind until the faction's superior manpower and industry can be brought to bear. The French don't seem to have a domestic source of oil.

As a player I'd look at this and take these odds without blinking. I'd even give the pure AI more than even money: you can see with China that simple weight of arms matters a huge deal.

The details are in the division templates, of course. An initial breakthrough early can go badly for you, since once you're pushed out of your initial defensive positions it might be difficult to reestablish a defensive line. And the AI is very likely to just relentlessly attack until they break or you do.

it's definitely not a bad setup for us, especially with the AI's love of unrelenting charges no matter the odds.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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sheep-dodger posted:

it's definitely not a bad setup for us, especially with the AI's love of unrelenting charges no matter the odds.

To be fair this lines up with who we are fighting very very well.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


Josef bugman posted:

To be fair this lines up with who we are fighting very very well.

"Surely the cowardly Byzantines will break eventually even if they have the numbers and equipment! They lack our virtus, our disciplina!"

Danny Glands
Jan 26, 2013

Possible thermal failure (CPU on fire?)
I bet the French are homophobic as well.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

Danny Glands posted:

I bet the French are homophobic as well.

If they are drawing from the old Romans they wouldn't look at it like we do - but maybe with how gender turned out in this world, they'd respect the active partner only and look down at the passive one.

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010



Kangxi posted:

If they are drawing from the old Romans they wouldn't look at it like we do - but maybe with how gender turned out in this world, they'd respect the active partner only and look down at the passive one.

Wording this very carefully here, but... that all depends. The social constructs created in France around sex, gender, and homosexuality could definitely end up being very... classical, for lack of a better term. Of course, it also depends on where they'd draw their inspirations from, and fascists have never been very coherent. They might actually end up looking at it through the historical lens of the Sacred Band of Thebes, for instance, which could lead to a weirdly pro-gay attitude ( as long as it's expressed in a properly martial way and form, of course ).

e: I hasten to add, though, that this would likely require someone close to Valeria who's both openly gay, loyal, and thoroughly indispensible.

TLM3101 fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jul 15, 2021

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Danny Glands posted:

I bet the French are homophobic as well.

also in the LP

punched my v-card at camp
Sep 4, 2008

Broken and smokin' where the infrared deer plunge in the digital snake
i would speculate that the French would end up using homophobia as a propaganda tool against the Commune, arguing the initial decline of the WRE was driven by decadent elites who still persist in the deformed state of the commonwealth.

I also imagine in general the French model is closer to the dominate than the principate or the republic; by that point my understanding was that the establishment of Christianity was secure enough that the old social mores re: same sex sex were well into being replaced with religious homophobia.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
I’m putting together a state of the world post soon— are there any screens/countries/whatever that you want to see in particular?

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

Aztec Republic or Iroquois Confederacy might be interesting to see more of.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Empress Theonora posted:

I’m putting together a state of the world post soon— are there any screens/countries/whatever that you want to see in particular?

It would be interesting to see the army/naval/air logistics tabs to see what kind of materiel Byz's forces are using and how much. A shot of the the templates for some common or interesting divisions in the field.

Also any intel on what the naval situation of China vs the Allies would be neat.

LJN92
Mar 5, 2014

Does anyone remember what became of New Zealand in this world?

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

LJN92 posted:

Does anyone remember what became of New Zealand in this world?

It got colonized by the Haida.

LJN92
Mar 5, 2014

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

It got colonized by the Haida.

It seems to be a different colour in the 1936 world map. Did they get independence?

e-dt
Sep 16, 2019

LJN92 posted:

It seems to be a different colour in the 1936 world map. Did they get independence?

I believe France annexed them because the New Caledonia decision was accidentally left in

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
Aotearoa is a Haida dominion, which is why it’s a different color.

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


I just...I gotta know how Japan's doing.

Flesnolk
Apr 11, 2012
War were declared

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
(The following is an official ByzLP post. Thank you to forum users Empress Theonora and JalapenoDude for corrections and feedback!)

The eulogy of Antonio Meleti was delivered on 1 September 1939 by Field Marshal Theodora Papadopoulou near the Gallic-Byzantine Border. Meleti was a local militia officer killed on patrol near the border in late August, with the suspects being members of the Gallic Army. Papdopoulou's speech, given at a time of communal tension and uproar, was a call to arms for the Byzantine public.

Reaction to the speech was mixed but positive at the time. An op-ed in the Roman Tribune criticized the use of a funeral for a political statement, calling it a “shameless advocacy of sabre-rattling”. The Gauls denied all responsibility for the death of Mr. Meleti, calling it “yet another example of bloody Red duplicity from the Butcher of Panama” and “the raving a senile nepotist”, with others, including the family of the deceased, with most saying that he would have preferred a greater public outcry. His brother said, “he would have wanted that people be mad.”




Field Marshal Theodora Papadopoulou

Three days ago, Antonio was killed. The stillness of the autumn sun over the waters blinded him, and he did not see those who would steal his life in the dark forest.

We will seek the causes of this crime, but not just from the fascists in their false Rome, but in ourselves. How did we shut our eyes and not imagine the cruelty that stalks the people of our commune – of my generation and yours? And over the frontier, hundreds of thousands, their name legion. In France, Germany, Poland, Russia, and too many other places, they ravage, usurp, and made empire and called it peace. They now delight in war and we must hate it like the gates of hell.

They hate that the red banner of socialism flies over what they covet most, their seat of empire. But they will not drag our bodies behind their chariots. The Byzantine Commune can be a garden of peace. Our workers plant orchards and put up houses, but they hold the tools of industry in one hand and the sword in the other. With the landship, the carrier, and the airplane, we safeguard the fruits of labor. But any weeds of hatred and division that are not cut down will soon choke us.

The oppressed all over the world look to us from under the dust and ash of history and demand that we build a place of refuge. Yet over the trench line there is a sea of hatred, cries for revenge, and they look forward to the day that we grow weary and lay down our arms.

This is the curse of our times. Either we make ourselves ready, or they will strike the shield from our hands and cut our lives short.

The name of Antonio Meleti calls out from his grave. He went from his home in Florence to build a home at the mountains, to defend us. The yearning for peace, for calm, was too much and he could not hear the screams of hate. The arches of Rome crashed down upon him.

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zanni
Apr 28, 2018


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