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Live At Five!
Feb 15, 2008
Didn't you like the loving terrible night vision sniper rifle that took up half your screen and has basically no visibility in the scope?

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Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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jisforjosh posted:

Gunplay is pretty drat solid near and TTK is almost exactly as it was at launch save for a few guns

Medics being given short-midrange weapons works IMO since they're supposed to be in the thick of it tossing smokes, medpacks, and reviving. BF1 felt off at times to be using a long ranged rifle that could 3 shot people at any range

I think medic range was a little too short in general...and the sensation wasn't helped by so many challenges have "Kill someone at long range" for medics and SMGs.

Philman posted:

The optics in bfv are also covered in dirt, annoyingly.

Nothing to do with your post but...I see from your avatar that you too are a man of class.

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


In BF1 the assault class is also the de-facto anti tank class, too, and has pretty good weapons for close and medium ranges. I've personally found the M1917 Patrol Carbine to be really good for mid-rangey stuff since it's easy to manage and has that optic, and being able to double at grenade + light at grenade + 4 tank rocket shots is, like, really good.

Being able to self-refill light at grenades as a support is pretty good, too.

Dead Like Rev
Sep 6, 2010

"The dead walk among us."



Hot Diggity! posted:

I missed playing with you all :unsmith:

We all hang out - for the most part on discord in the battlefield channel on Marvelous Pro Elite Gaming Society linked earlier in the thread, like within the last page or two (by me) - and we play their or on a mumble all the time.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

In BF1 the assault class is also the de-facto anti tank class, too, and has pretty good weapons for close and medium ranges.

Same in BFV but weirdly somehow it worked in BF1 but not V

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




The anti tank gun is great for sniping.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

jisforjosh posted:

Same in BFV but weirdly somehow it worked in BF1 but not V
I think part of it was the switch from BF1 Assault having close range weapons to the BFV Assault having all-rounder guns that work well at all but the most extreme of ranges. Like, if BFV followed the same weapon/class layout as BF1, Assault would have the SMGs and shotguns while Medic would have the rifles/ARs.

Alkydere posted:

I think medic range was a little too short in general...and the sensation wasn't helped by so many challenges have "Kill someone at long range" for medics and SMGs.
I think the Medic SMGs could have definitely stood to have a bit more range in general, but I think a lot of people undervalued having infinite medpacks in a game where health regen was limited. I dunno, I had some friends who complained about how it made no sense that Medic had the "worst" guns but that always checked out to me. :shrug:

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

jisforjosh posted:

Same in BFV but weirdly somehow it worked in BF1 but not V

I mean, it was like this since at least BC2, where the antitank class had the close-range SMGs/Carbines.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

jisforjosh posted:

Same in BFV but weirdly somehow it worked in BF1 but not V

I mean at launch in BF1 assault had by far the best guns, both because the Medic/Support guns were mostly crap but also because the Hellriegel and Model 10 Hunter were disgustingly OP

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
The way they handled the Assault class in BFV is basically a repeat of BF Vietnam's Heavy Assault class with the M60 and LAW

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

Shrimp or Shrimps posted:

In BF1 the assault class is also the de-facto anti tank class, too, and has pretty good weapons for close and medium ranges. I've personally found the M1917 Patrol Carbine to be really good for mid-rangey stuff since it's easy to manage and has that optic, and being able to double at grenade + light at grenade + 4 tank rocket shots is, like, really good.

Being able to self-refill light at grenades as a support is pretty good, too.

In my experience the patrol carbine is good for pub stomping... it's ttk and deep mag lets you dunk multiple people quickly if you significantly outskill your opposition.

You'll lose to anyone using a SMG up close or a medic rifle who is on your level though.

Live At Five!
Feb 15, 2008
One of the reasons BF1 is better than BFV is AT rockets. One of my favorite moments of BF1 is nailing some poor fucker on B from D with an AT rocket. Felt real good.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Live At Five! posted:

One of the reasons BF1 is better than BFV is AT rockets. One of my favorite moments of BF1 is nailing some poor fucker on B from D with an AT rocket. Felt real good.

Actually having to take a moment to set up did wonders balancing the rocket launcher. And as you said, sniping people with it was always gloriously hilarious.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I just wish the rocket gun was more effective against tanks.

Infidelicious
Apr 9, 2013

Mordja posted:

I mean, it was like this since at least BC2, where the antitank class had the close-range SMGs/Carbines.

BF2 had same thing.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Insert name here posted:

I think part of it was the switch from BF1 Assault having close range weapons to the BFV Assault having all-rounder guns that work well at all but the most extreme of ranges. Like, if BFV followed the same weapon/class layout as BF1, Assault would have the SMGs and shotguns while Medic would have the rifles/ARs.

Yeah, I'd say this is the major thing. In BF1, assaults have a distinct niche and trade-off. Up close they're murder, in the open they suffer. If your main goal is killing infantry, then based on the maps/CP they're sometimes a good pick, but other times a medic or support will be much more effective. Meanwhile in BFV, there is pretty much never a bad time to be assault. Up close you're strong, in midrange you're king, at long range you're still decent. If all you want is shooting infantry, assault is never a bad choice, and often the best.

Another factor is that AT weapons in BFV are much easier to use. In BF1 you really need to expose yourself, either by setting up the rocket or by getting close enough to use the grenade or dynamite. Meanwhile in BFV you can sprint around a corner, whip out a panzerfaust, nail a tank at a hundred meters while you're still moving, and be gone a moment later.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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hosed up imo that 3/4 classes have the whole "support your teammates by doing X" thing going on and then 1 is just extra good at killing instead

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

That was a huge issue in BF:V generally, because assaults were just really good at killing anything at any range, but on the flip side in BF1 medics are similar. They can't deal with vehicles, but when it comes to killing infantry (which is the bulk of the combat), they have the tools to be good at it in almost any situation.

The classes have never really been designed in a way that makes them equally appealing, which is why I think the specialists are a good idea.

Fart Car '97 fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Aug 9, 2021

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Fart Car '97 posted:

That was a huge issue in BF:V generally, because assaults were just really good at killing anything at any range, but on the flip side in BF1 medics are similar. They can't deal with vehicles, but when it comes to killing infantry (which is the bulk of the combat), they have the tools to be good at it in almost any situation.

The classes have never really been designed in a way that makes them equally appealing, which is why I think the specialists are a good idea.

Played medic on Monte Grappa Operations today and the frag nade launcher still slaps on some of the later sectors

Edit: thanks for the catch, phone posting

jisforjosh fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Aug 9, 2021

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

jisforjosh posted:

frag made launcher

Dead Like Rev
Sep 6, 2010

"The dead walk among us."





Found a loving unicorn tonight, it was magical. The KING of the Wookies. He was Majestic and as useless if not more so than all the rest.

Dead Like Rev fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Aug 9, 2021

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Are there any settings to make enemy players stand out more in Battlefield 1? I'm an old man, and snipers don't even have to lie down to be utterly indistinguishable just a few dozen meters away.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

When is the EA Playtesting for BF2042? And when will I know if I’ve gotten in or not?

WorldIndustries
Dec 21, 2004

RCarr posted:

When is the EA Playtesting for BF2042? And when will I know if I’ve gotten in or not?

I think if you're able to sign up here then that confirms you are in: https://ea.arcsivr.com/Portal/EA-CTE/default?utm_medium=email

The 4 day one was full when I tried but I think I got in for this weekend

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

It shows no playtests available when I sign in there. I guess that means I didn’t get in?

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Xander77 posted:

Are there any settings to make enemy players stand out more in Battlefield 1? I'm an old man, and snipers don't even have to lie down to be utterly indistinguishable just a few dozen meters away.

3D spot them

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

RCarr posted:

When is the EA Playtesting for BF2042? And when will I know if I’ve gotten in or not?

Playtest starts Thursday, invites to register were emailed out last week, and registration ended yesterday.

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


Xander77 posted:

Are there any settings to make enemy players stand out more in Battlefield 1? I'm an old man, and snipers don't even have to lie down to be utterly indistinguishable just a few dozen meters away.

Wait until you try BFV

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Funnily enough, I thought BF1 was better for that than BF4, which was the absolute nadir of visibilty for me, for whatever reason. Haven't played V, but I've seen the video.

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Xander77 posted:

Are there any settings to make enemy players stand out more in Battlefield 1? I'm an old man, and snipers don't even have to lie down to be utterly indistinguishable just a few dozen meters away.

slow down

slow down

slow down

it's so easy to want to SPAWN SPAWN SPAWN SPAWN RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN TO THE OBJECTIVE DIE gently caress REPEAT. I was getting frustrated after not playing bf1 for a while myself, it really helps to slow the hell down. pretend there isn't a sprint key for a while. part of why I was getting killed so easy was that i never had my gun ready to fire.

still for me there are some maps where I can't see poo poo. Like Argonne Forest for example any of the jugnley parts I'm terrible at, so I just stick to the burned out wasteland parts of the map

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Also remember where people were hiding or what they were doing when they killed you--it might work on other people besides you.

Dead Like Rev posted:



Found a loving unicorn tonight, it was magical. The KING of the Wookies. He was Majestic and as useless if not more so than all the rest.

There's still time for them to patch some kind of spawn beacon into BF1 imo

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Inspector Hound posted:

Also remember where people were hiding or what they were doing when they killed you--it might work on other people besides you.

There's still time for them to patch some kind of spawn beacon into BF1 imo

BF1 actually already has a spawn beacon!

on the infiltrator elite class

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Broke down and downloaded BF1. The tutorial intro actually didn't seem too bad from what I remember from the beta. Ain't no servers though. Only euro and >120 ping, and all empty to boot. Is it cause I only have the base game?

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

codo27 posted:

Broke down and downloaded BF1. The tutorial intro actually didn't seem too bad from what I remember from the beta. Ain't no servers though. Only euro and >120 ping, and all empty to boot. Is it cause I only have the base game?

Check your filter because there are full servers I'm US 24/7

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf
yea your filters are hosed, I'm looking at like 50+ servers US right now. base game servers are more popular than the dlc too. (dlc maps are great though).

also I think there is some kind of free DLC map rotation? I used to only have the base game and it seemed like each week I could sometimes play on dlc maps or dlc operations. Can anyone tell me how that works exactly?

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

codo27 posted:

Broke down and downloaded BF1. The tutorial intro actually didn't seem too bad from what I remember from the beta. Ain't no servers though. Only euro and >120 ping, and all empty to boot. Is it cause I only have the base game?

Echoing the filter check, mid day US yesterday I had the pick of like 20 servers that were full for conquest or Operations and another 20 or so for smaller modes.

Didn't check for the heathen hardcore modes you frequent

Captain Beans posted:

yea your filters are hosed, I'm looking at like 50+ servers US right now. base game servers are more popular than the dlc too. (dlc maps are great though).

also I think there is some kind of free DLC map rotation? I used to only have the base game and it seemed like each week I could sometimes play on dlc maps or dlc operations. Can anyone tell me how that works exactly?

Not too sure on that but I do know if you squad up with a goon or someone that has the DLC, you can play the DLC maps regardless of what you own.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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By default the filter is set to only servers with between 1-10 empty spots. You can loosen that up to find servers that are full up at 64/64 or whatever since you're still able to queue up to join on those.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

I just choose “play any operation” and it always drops me into a full game

Supaflywallace
Jan 3, 2020

Mordja posted:

Funnily enough, I thought BF1 was better for that than BF4, which was the absolute nadir of visibilty for me, for whatever reason. Haven't played V, but I've seen the video.

I'm exactly the same, felt like I was fighting in an impressionist painting in BF4 sometimes

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Space Jam
Jul 22, 2008

BF4 on consoles in particular looks like absolute poo poo and is a complete mess on maps like Paracel Storm.

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