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Alhazred posted:Those friends are also doing their best to enable his worst tendencies. He was happy and functional as a beat cop until they dragged him into a murder case. drat, you've got a point here. One reason this show is a little depressing to me is that every single character is seriously flawed in some way, and I get the sense that the reality is even worse than depicted. It shreds any remaining faith I had in policing, that's for sure. Well, maybe Beadie is alright. She's pretty level headed.
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Can we at least agree that Clark Johnson is great and he did a great job directing as well as acting.
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algebra testes posted:Can we at least agree that Clark Johnson is great and he did a great job directing as well as acting. Oh yeah, I have nothing bad to say about the acting in season 5; even the actor who played Rich Whiteman or whatever the newspaper boss's name was played the part perfectly well, it was just some of the characters that could have used a little more time in the oven.
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werdnam posted:
I’d be interested to know how David would change these characters in 2020, post-Blue Lives Matter. Would Beadie be a MAGA gal who rocks a Thin Grey Line bumper sticker? Etc etc. It really is jarring to think of how much police culture has hardened and militarized since The Wire was made. A sub-plot could be jarheads coming into police the city post-Iraq, cops living outside of the city (although I think that gets a nod at some point).
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McNulty is definitely some kind of libertarian
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It's shown he pays no attention to politics and doesn't vote because the people at the top don't understand what's going on anyway.
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Orange Devil posted:It's shown he pays no attention to politics and doesn't vote because the people at the top don't understand what's going on anyway. Oh man, you just reminded me how awkward that was when Jimmy tried to turn the booty call political consultant situation into an actual relationship. That dinner conversation was cringe worthy. And a little sad.
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werdnam posted:Oh man, you just reminded me how awkward that was when Jimmy tried to turn the booty call political consultant situation into an actual relationship. That dinner conversation was cringe worthy. And a little sad. It was satisfying at least to see Jimmy try to show off his one thing that he's good at to someone outside of the cop world and completely fail to impress them. He has the one thing going for him, and it completely sucks the wind out of his sails when it does nothing. "I do a lot of major cases....a lot of people can't do what we do" "Oh...*quietly eats a salad*"
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DasNeonLicht posted:The season five serial killer arc was the one point of the show that stretched credulity a little bit, I don't know — maybe something like that could really happen. milking homicides and organizing media circuses for funding is absolutely a thing cops do all the time, it's just anachronistic watching someone we've followed for years carry it out when he hasn't 'earned' it through his characterization
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God Hole posted:milking homicides and organizing media circuses for funding is absolutely a thing cops do all the time, it's just anachronistic watching someone we've followed for years carry it out when he hasn't 'earned' it through his characterization yeah, I guess just like — I didn't buy that McNulty was that unhinged, or that he wouldn't have been immediately reported and fired, but I am probably a bit naive — it just didn't seem to fit with four seasons of what I thought was a pretty dry (in a good way) or hyperreal police procedural
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the most unrealistic thing is that it wasnt just 100% graft from the start
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I mean the wire is weird in that the rank and file while not shown as angels, were presented as weirdly earnest
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The scene where Carcetti gets the news is such an all-timer. Basically makes the whole plot worth it IMO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdpG92dsx1A
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Yeah I really dislike that plot but carcetti literally speechless makes up for a lot of it
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Aug 11, 2021 23:52
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zenguitarman posted:Reg E Cathey is so good 
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I also like the little detail that he didn't vote for carcetti
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"The sanctity of the voting booth is a cornerstone of democracy."
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Hey Norman, you know what I had for dinner last night? Tuna sub. I ate in the car. When I finish writing my memoirs, that poo poo'll be in there, no doubt. lmao. Aidan Gillen does an amazing job too
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Newspapers print cops accounts of events verbatim all the time. To this day. Why wouldn’t they buy a serial killer? I mean 5 is my least favorite but it’s better than most tv.
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DasNeonLicht posted:yeah, I guess just like — I didn't buy that McNulty was that unhinged, or that he wouldn't have been immediately reported and fired, but I am probably a bit naive — it just didn't seem to fit with four seasons of what I thought was a pretty dry (in a good way) or hyperreal police procedural And McNulty's plan wasn't working at all, because no one gave a poo poo until Templeton manufactured his own "News" about the "killer". And then the whole thing fell apart really quickly once more than (4?) people knew what was happening. Give the newspaper a few more episodes to flesh out their characters and story like we had for the dockworkers of S2 and I think S5 would have been fine. I feel like S3 has aged more poorly than S5.
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Which season gave us Lester asking for the pepper steak?
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christmas boots posted:Which season gave us Lester asking for the pepper steak? That was five: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXv-1CMcUu4
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That scene alone justifies the season imo
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Gotta post this one too... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyewqmAKHto
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I really feel Lester's role in season 5 should've been split with at least one other character. He essentially becomes Sherlock Holmes in the last few episodes. At least in earlier seasons he had Prez who was shown to be a crafty detective when not murdering non-whites.
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I mean by the end Lester was the only character I actually cared enough about to see his stuff resolved so splitting it wouldn’t have been ideal for me
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Orange Devil posted:Bubbles? I forgot about Bubbles so two
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I just got to the episode where McNulty carts the ill homeless man to Washington with false ID, and I'm really disappointed in these characters. Not disappointed in a "man, I know they can do better" way, disappointed in a "I don't buy this anymore" way. Simon *almost* sells it, especially with Lester's "I was impacted by an illegitimate decision, so I am justified to use illegitimate means," but they lost me. I did enjoy the scene in the newsroom where Jimmy realizes the reporter is making stuff up and calls his bluff by saying that the killer had called the cops, too. The look he gives the reporter ("What, are you going to contradict me?") is great. I also that the story the guy gets the most praise from Gus on is the one that was 100% real (the interview with the homeless Marine veteran).
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Orange Devil posted:Bubbles? When does Bodie die? Because I definitely cared about him His scene with McNulty is the latter's last good scene really exmachina fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Aug 13, 2021 |
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exmachina posted:When does Bodie die? Because I definitely cared about him Just after that scene you mentioned, actually. Same episode I think.
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McNulty and Daniels in the elevator is great.
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deoju posted:Gotta post this one too... Joe's increasingly worried face as he realizes Herc worked for the Mayor's office and was now in Major Crimes is even better because as viewers we know that Herc is a giant gently caress-up, but anybody getting this information without that context like Joe is would be like,"Oh gently caress they've got super-cop on the case."  Especially given he knows Major Crimes were the ones who took down the Barksdale Organization, without knowing it has been hollowed out and left a shadow of its former self.
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I also loved Rawls: at least tell me you aren't killing them yourself, McNulty.
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Just finished S4 on a rewatch for me and a first watch for my girlfriend, I wasn't the biggest fan of the final season but looking forward to doing it all again. That prop Joe phonecall is some 5 star poo poo though, when this series hits it's highs they're hard to match.
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deoju posted:Gotta post this one too... This is especially great knowing how well the actor did the Baltimore accent (the "nepheuu" thing) so authentically. He's got some chops
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Data Graham posted:This is especially great knowing how well the actor did the Baltimore accent (the "nepheuu" thing) so authentically. He's got some chops I mean .. the man was born, raised and lived in Baltimore so I doubt he had to reach particularly far to hit the accent. 
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Well then
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Season 5 definitely has its warts, the shortened season made everything slightly rushed, I never gave a crap about the journalist storyline and the serial killer stuff was just slightly far fetched enough that it didn’t feel like it matched the verisimilitude of the rest of the series. However, I thought the street level story was really great and worth the price of admission. Everything with Michael and Dukie, Marlo and his crew and Omar felt earned and a great capstone for their stories. I’ll see how it feels on rewatch though.
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