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Would it be worth it to buy the physical Arena starter kit?
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Aug 10, 2021 19:21
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Kull the Conqueror posted:I went up against a guy who used Kick in the Door with Demilich and it tickled me so much that I've been obsessed with optimizing something for 2022 ranked for the past couple of weeks. That combo doesn't make any sense, the Demilich needs to be in play first.
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Aug 10, 2021 19:42
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Drowning Rabbit posted:Went for 2 wins in the Amonket draft: https://www.17lands.com/draft/c6cad80d783242b19f97684027fe2838 What did you lose to? Was it the blue cycling enchantment that squats out drakes or the green enchantment that drops worms? The blue one is a bomb uncommon, but the deck can be hard to build.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:00
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Technowolf posted:Would it be worth it to buy the physical Arena starter kit? I bought it for like $7 at my local game store. Don’t know how good either of the decks are but since I’m splitting it with my fiancée, I just saw it as a way to get a bunch of nonrandomized cards for a starter collection.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:21
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Bet my opponent was pleased by getting Lena in momir while I was getting big power creatures.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:22
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hey is there a mtg cube thread? i'm close to completing an AFR cube, but I'd like to balance it so that R/B isn't so oppressive and that blue is a little more powerful.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:26
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Ithle01 posted:What did you lose to? Was it the blue cycling enchantment that squats out drakes or the green enchantment that drops worms? The blue one is a bomb uncommon, but the deck can be hard to build. There was a white enchantment that named my big beater with reach that had a stranglehold on a game. Don't recall what it was. Additionally just arrest style enchantments on my creatures with no way to get them back other than sacrificing them for life. Of note, I did not realize that it's 3 free drafts:
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Aug 10, 2021 20:34
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Dungeon Ecology posted:hey is there a mtg cube thread? There's one in Traditional Games, but it doesn't get much (if any) traffic. Traditional Games has the paper MtG threads.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:35
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Dungeon Ecology posted:hey is there a mtg cube thread? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3560252&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 Not a lot of traffic recently but I've been getting back into cubes and I'm sure nobody would mind reviving the thread. Or just post in the General MTG paper thread in trad games.
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Aug 10, 2021 20:37
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does anyone have any gross Emry, or generally gross combo lists for 100 card historic brawl that I can start looking at? I know all will be thrown into chaos by Jumpstart, but, starting points are starting points
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Aug 10, 2021 20:48
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Cabbages and Kings posted:does anyone have any gross Emry, or generally gross combo lists for 100 card historic brawl that I can start looking at? I know all will be thrown into chaos by Jumpstart, but, starting points are starting points we're getting a historic brawl queue on the 12th and jumpstart's been pushed along with the patch to the 26th, so you have time for current lists here's a slightly tweaked list that i have saved for emry  AFR wasn't out yet last historic brawl so the cards from that set are experimental (i honestly probably want deck of many things in there, somewhere, but i haven't spent a wildcard on it yet. probably over wizard's spellbook) deck will change a ton with jumpstart, lemme tell you
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Aug 10, 2021 20:53
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Dungeon Ecology posted:hey is there a mtg cube thread? I'm curious how you do a cube for a single set when there's not enough unique cards for an entire draft. There's 360 cards in a regular draft (three 15 card packs times 8 players) but only 281 cards in AFR. Are you going to have duplicate cards in your cube? As for making blue more palatable uhhh good luck? Unless you're going to include cards from other sets it's basically impossible, unless you just want to cut out the top 2-5 commons in each other colour to even them out. Though I doubt it'd be fun to play a cube where the other colours are reduced to the power level of blue. Maybe have each player start with a Sapphire Medallion in play lol (and pray your opp doesn't have artifact removal). If anything you could just cut blue entirely aside from a couple good cards (though I don't know if a cube is actually improved by including Xanathar).
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Aug 10, 2021 21:08
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Drowning Rabbit posted:There was a white enchantment that named my big beater with reach that had a stranglehold on a game. Don't recall what it was. Ah, thought you might have gotten taken out by some of the enchantment based decks in the format, but it looks like just regular white removal spells. There's a decent amount of good removal in AKR and agro is stronger than in most limited formats so you need to decide whether you want to commit to being agro or surviving it.
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Aug 10, 2021 21:11
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Here's my favorite paradox engine deck in historic brawl, Sisay. Get Sisay out then tutor up the engine and make a hundred mana and cast all the spells. I haven't added anything to it from AFR and probably don't need to except for maybe the fetch a plains dog, but probably needs a mana rebalance to cut some of the 5+ drops and then add in the snow lands and Search for Glory. Commander 1 Captain Sisay (INV) 237 Deck 1 Elfhame Druid 1 Lyra Dawnbringer 1 Marwyn, the Nurturer 1 Mox Amber 1 Shalai, Voice of Plenty 1 Urza's Ruinous Blast 1 Sunpetal Grove 1 Reclamation Sage 1 Vivien Reid 1 Trostani Discordant 1 Temple Garden 1 Llanowar Elves 1 Guardian Project 1 Incubation Druid 1 Ugin, the Ineffable 1 Finale of Devastation 1 Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World 1 Paradise Druid 1 Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves 1 God-Pharaoh's Statue 1 Leafkin Druid 1 Veil of Summer 1 Arcane Signet 1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger 1 Command Tower 1 The Great Henge 1 Once Upon a Time 1 Questing Beast 1 Crashing Drawbridge 1 Castle Ardenvale 1 Fabled Passage 1 Mind Stone 1 Rhys the Redeemed 1 Nyx Lotus 1 Shadowspear 1 Temple of Plenty 1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1 Fight as One 1 Kogla, the Titan Ape 1 Akroma's Memorial 1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon 1 Selfless Savior 1 Heroic Intervention 1 Llanowar Visionary 1 Chromatic Orrery 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 1 Drover of the Mighty 1 Oracle of Mul Daya 1 Overgrown Battlement 1 Selvala, Heart of the Wilds 1 Guardian Idol 1 Ilysian Caryatid 1 Yasharn, Implacable Earth 1 Sejiri Shelter 1 Bala Ged Recovery 1 Tangled Florahedron 1 Branchloft Pathway 1 Druid of the Cowl 1 Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter 1 Rishkar, Peema Renegade 1 Ajani Unyielding 1 Hope of Ghirapur 1 Paradox Engine 1 Aether Hub 1 Inventors' Fair 12 Plains 15 Forest 1 Reidane, God of the Worthy 1 Toski, Bearer of Secrets 1 Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider 1 Coldsteel Heart 1 Gods Willing 1 Swords to Plowshares
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Aug 10, 2021 21:29
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My top tip for AKR is just that Trial of Solidarity looks innocuous but is in fact very good indeed, so if your draft pod doesn’t know this you can snatch them up
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Aug 10, 2021 21:41
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I just did the free Amonkhet draft - 4 wins! I consider that good Blue/White deck with the enchantment that pops out cycling drakes and a bunch of cycling cards. I no joke probably played against 6/7 blue white decks. I’ve never seen the cards in this set before so I guess I lucked into the strong color (I still am not using draft programs - playing on my phone for now lol)
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Aug 10, 2021 21:42
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Drowning Rabbit posted:Went for 2 wins in the Amonket draft: https://www.17lands.com/draft/c6cad80d783242b19f97684027fe2838 I think I disagree with almost all your early picks, but I'm also not sure of the context. Did you specifically raredraft in p1p1? I assume you did, but then it almost looks like you are trying to draft around it. You ignored some really good red and white options (what I would most like to be in), and didn't even always take the best green card.
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Aug 10, 2021 22:42
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Drowning Rabbit posted:There was a white enchantment that named my big beater with reach that had a stranglehold on a game. Don't recall what it was. Nope it's 9 free packs with potential for more. Pretty nice tbh
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Aug 10, 2021 23:07
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Went 7-2, first draft where I got over 2-3.quote:Deck
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Aug 10, 2021 23:18
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Defeatist Elitist posted:I think I disagree with almost all your early picks, but I'm also not sure of the context. I haven’t played the format but it looks to me like there was a seriously good GR deck on offer here in packs 1 and 3
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Aug 10, 2021 23:27
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Technowolf posted:Would it be worth it to buy the physical Arena starter kit?
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Aug 10, 2021 23:29
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Blorange posted:That combo doesn't make any sense, the Demilich needs to be in play first. Oh no, not a combo for the cost. This guy had played the Lich for four blue and then Kick in the Door to have a 5/4 haster that could be 6/5 if he has an extra red. I found it so odd that I had to try and figure out why. So now I'm enjoying some reasonable success with Sea Gate Stormcallers, Magmatic Channelers, and burn spells. It's got some really crazy burst turns that can happen. Really hurts not to have Opt, though.
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Aug 10, 2021 23:51
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You'll get a strictly-better-for-that-deck opt in Innistrad so not long to wait
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Aug 11, 2021 00:16
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Look at this beautiful pile. https://articles.starcitygames.com/...source=hs_email 2 Den of the Bugbear 1 Battle Cry Goblin 4 Blightstep Pathway 4 Cragcrown Pathway 4 Muxus, Goblin Grandee 4 Grumgully, the Generous 4 Putrid Goblin 1 Pashalik Mons 2 Munitions Expert 4 Wily Goblin 3 Unclaimed Territory 4 Collected Company 4 Goblin Chieftain 4 Blood Crypt 4 Stomping Ground 4 Skirk Prospector 1 Mountain 4 Goblin Matron 2 Phyrexian Tower Sideboard 2 Irencrag Feat 2 Munitions Expert 1 Goblin Cratermaker 1 Goblin Trashmaster 1 Goblin Chainwhirler 3 Abrade 4 Leyline of the Void 1 Gempalm Incinerator Grumgully + putrid goblin + prospector is infinite mana, then activate den a bunch of times to get enough gobbos on attack, pump battle cry goblin, activate pashlik mons, or put the hobgoblin bandit guy in there somewhere for a lethal amount of goblins entering this turn. edit - momir is fun. https://scryfall.com/card/c16/58/blazing-archon is hell of a card. Opponent kept his Jin-Gitaxias for two turns before he realized it was going to deck him very quickly. 
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Aug 11, 2021 00:28
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Went 7-2 in the free Amonkhet Remastered draft. The trick is to play green with a splash of white. And blue. And red. 'cause you don't not play The Locust God and Assert/Authority is a really good finisher if you've got board presence.
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Aug 11, 2021 02:59
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Reidane in this iteration of Momir is brutal. That is all.
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Aug 11, 2021 03:10
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Got Aggro'd (and one high roll guy with a great hand) to 1-3 trying to Aggro myself, but that's Amon Remastered for you.
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Aug 11, 2021 04:16
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Almost lost a game because I'm not sure how to make my dude exert when attacking.
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Aug 11, 2021 04:35
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Solemn Sloth posted:Almost lost a game because I'm not sure how to make my dude exert when attacking. "Attack all" doesn't prompt the Exert - you have to manually choose which creatures to attack with, and then select them individually to Exert. That said, just went 6-3 in the free Amon draft, which is surprising because I'm absolutely terrible at drafting in general. 2 of those 3 losses were getting mana screwed, and the last one I kept a mediocre draw into someone's very good Zombie deck. Pretty happy all in all.
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Aug 11, 2021 04:54
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Solemn Sloth posted:Almost lost a game because I'm not sure how to make my dude exert when attacking. Same.
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Aug 11, 2021 04:56
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It turns out the secret to doing well in drafts is to slum it in Bronze all the time. I'll take 5 wins with a thoroughly mediocre deck in a set that I've never drafted nor really know anything about. That being said gently caress planeswalkers in Limited.
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Aug 11, 2021 06:57
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https://www.17lands.com/deck/58892a326bcd4a34b803d9a3f5d48788 How the gently caress do i bring this U/B cycling deck down to 40 cards, I'm 99% sure I don't want to run 17 lands but no idea how many exactly. 20 cards with cycling is kind of a lot but I'm not experienced enough with this format to know how low I can go and which cards should go.
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Aug 11, 2021 09:22
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God i wish they'd curate the momir pool to remove creatures with do-nothing abilities, they're so unfun. E: and yeah I lost a dude and almost lost a game because exert doesn't trigger on all-attack. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Aug 11, 2021 |
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Aug 11, 2021 11:21
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Cabbages and Kings posted:does anyone have any gross Emry, or generally gross combo lists for 100 card historic brawl that I can start looking at? I know all will be thrown into chaos by Jumpstart, but, starting points are starting points Bruvac the Grandiloquent + a kicked Maddening Cacophony is an insta-win. Someone posted this some time ago when there was a historic brawl event, it's very rude. Commander 1 Bruvac the Grandiloquent (JMP) 10 Deck 1 Sweet Oblivion (THB) 70 36 Snow-Covered Island (KHM) 278 1 Essence Flux (JMP) 151 1 Didn't Say Please (ELD) 42 1 Maddening Cacophony (ZNR) 67 1 Miscast (M21) 57 1 Compelling Argument (AKR) 55 1 Negate (RIX) 44 1 Merfolk Secretkeeper (ELD) 53 1 Disdainful Stroke (KHM) 54 1 Lazotep Plating (WAR) 59 1 Time Warp (STA) 22 1 Unsummon (ANB) 36 27 Persistent Petitioners (RNA) 44 1 Thought Collapse (JMP) 184 1 Dive Down (XLN) 53 1 Wall of Lost Thoughts (JMP) 190 1 Ipnu Rivulet (AKR) 303 1 Ruin Crab (ZNR) 75 1 Iceberg Cancrix (MH1) 54 1 Teferi's Tutelage (M21) 78 1 Into the Story (ELD) 50 1 Sea Gate Restoration (ZNR) 76 1 Mystic Sanctuary (ELD) 247 1 Brainstorm (STA) 13 1 Drowned Secrets (GRN) 39 1 Bond of Insight (WAR) 43 1 Overwhelmed Apprentice (ELD) 60 1 Confounding Conundrum (ZNR) 53 1 Into the Roil (ZNR) 62 1 Whelming Wave (JMP) 193 1 Roaming Ghostlight (M21) 65 1 Multiple Choice (STX) 48 1 Icebreaker Kraken (KHM) 63 1 Shipwreck Dowser (M21) 71 1 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (WAR) 54 1 Glacial Grasp (ZNR) 59 1 Sage's Row Denizen (M20) 73 It could probably be improved with Tasha's Hideous Laughter replacing a Persistent Petitioners. Fleet Swallower too, maybe, I dunno.
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Aug 11, 2021 12:13
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Retcon posted:https://www.17lands.com/deck/58892a326bcd4a34b803d9a3f5d48788 Probably cut the Unburdens and some of the 5s and 6s. With that much cycling I'd probably run 18 lands too since you are never going to run out of things to do with your mana and want to make sure you hit your drops, plus you can cycle away deserts if you get flooded.
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Aug 11, 2021 14:12
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MikeCrotch posted:Probably cut the Unburdens and some of the 5s and 6s. With that much cycling I'd probably run 18 lands too since you are never going to run out of things to do with your mana and want to make sure you hit your drops, plus you can cycle away deserts if you get flooded.
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Aug 11, 2021 14:34
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thespaceinvader posted:God i wish they'd curate the momir pool to remove creatures with do-nothing abilities, they're so unfun. Yeah getting a vanilla 3/1 sucks so hard. And to your edit, that explains a lot about why I blew through a bunch of triggers last night. Whoops!
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Aug 11, 2021 14:49
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Retcon posted:I don't see how I could cut any of the 5s tbh. Ominous Sphinx is absurd, Final Reward is my one piece of unconditional hard removal and the other three cycle for one mana (plus Horror is pretty good in my experience). Also I thought the idea was that you can cut lands if you have enough cycling since you can still hit your land drops? At the very least I know the cycling deck in Ikoria didn't run many lands - though that one had Zenith Flare. Ikoria cycling cards almost all cycled for 1 mana, so it was much easier to cycle out of mana screw than paying colored mana or 2 in amonkhet. The cycling lands were rare and that also affected the math, where here you have deserts that you can cycle if you you're flooding. And the payoffs for cycling in Ikoria was much higher so you were more incentivized to play a couple cheap threats and spin the rest of your deck away, hitting too many lands was a huge roadblock. I'm not that familiar with Amonkhet but I'd go to 18 lands and cut both Unburden, Doomfall, Cryptic Serpent, 1 Vizier and maybe a Hieroglyphic Illumination?
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Aug 11, 2021 15:06
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Alright, thanks for the advice!
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Defeatist Elitist posted:I think I disagree with almost all your early picks, but I'm also not sure of the context. So yes, raredraft p1p1, but I'm really interested in the better green cards I should have taken instead of my idiotic picks at least if you don't mind? I mean, looking back I feel like I know I should have been in red/white, but that is a completely different draft then.
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