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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

huh?

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Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
the dude is whining the biggest baby tears because his keyboard app keeps getting rejected by App Store reviewers because it repeatedly tells users it requires “full access” (ie Network access) to work. ~technically~ it works without full access, but only if the user turns on VoiceOver.

and somehow Apple requiring that keyboard apps work even if the user doesn’t give them permission to phone home with everything the user types is apparently Bad Thing.

dude also loves to tweet about finding scam apps with 3 total downloads that got through app approval proving that Apple is specifically targeting him or whatever.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

Doc Block posted:

the dude is whining the biggest baby tears because his keyboard app keeps getting rejected by App Store reviewers because it repeatedly tells users it requires “full access” (ie Network access) to work. ~technically~ it works without full access, but only if the user turns on VoiceOver.

and somehow Apple requiring that keyboard apps work even if the user doesn’t give them permission to phone home with everything the user types is apparently Bad Thing.
the way that article is written very conveniently obscures these facts

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica

Doc Block posted:

the dude is whining the biggest baby tears because his keyboard app keeps getting rejected by App Store reviewers because it repeatedly tells users it requires “full access” (ie Network access) to work. ~technically~ it works without full access, but only if the user turns on VoiceOver.

and somehow Apple requiring that keyboard apps work even if the user doesn’t give them permission to phone home with everything the user types is apparently Bad Thing.

dude also loves to tweet about finding scam apps with 3 total downloads that got through app approval proving that Apple is specifically targeting him or whatever.

are you sure it doesn't require "full access". IIRC accessibility stuff usually have atrocious permissions out of necessity.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

lol im just sipping his beta tears as he gets cucked by timb. shoulda sold out when he had the chance, but this is what you get when you mess with the bull :drat:

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

the way that article is written very conveniently obscures these facts

weird how pretty much every “gently caress Apple!” App Store story manages to leave out little details like this

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

frankly apple should sue dishonest news outlet like that into oblivion. im sure peter thiel can give tim some tips

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Jenny Agutter posted:

frankly apple should sue dishonest news outlet like that into oblivion. im sure peter thiel can give tim some tips

i thought the rich jerk thing was to buy a newspaper and have it print nice things about you

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Jenny Agutter posted:

lol im just sipping his beta tears as he gets cucked by timb. shoulda sold out when he had the chance, but this is what you get when you mess with the bull :drat:

you are weird

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
apple could be better but I get weird vibes off of that guy

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Silver Alicorn posted:

apple could be better but I get weird vibes off of that guy

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

correct but kind of boringly nuanced.

yospos 2021.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009



and thats how you increase shareholder value

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Jenny Agutter posted:

lol im just sipping his beta tears as he gets cucked by timb. shoulda sold out when he had the chance, but this is what you get when you mess with the bull :drat:

hmmm

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

Jenny Agutter posted:



and thats how you increase shareholder value

number of companies bought by Apple: on average one per week (yes really)

number of companies that rejected offers by Apple: who knows. dozens every year? hundreds?

number of developers having a temper tantrum on twitter: one

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

you always let one go as a warning. hope any other devs who try this crap get the message!

URL grey tea
Jun 1, 2004

IT'S A SAD THING THAT YOUR ADVENTURES HAVE ENDED HERE!!
walled gardens keep a bunch of rabbits from eating our crops

URL grey tea fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Aug 20, 2021

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

have we discussed how dumb the notch is lately


its fuckin dumb.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

remember when all tech writing started talking about phone chins and foreheads to make a bezel sound dumber than a notch

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i dont notice the notch at all on my work phone. its fine.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

have we discussed how dumb the notch is lately


its fuckin dumb.

first thought upon reading this "why, what did he tweet this time"

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

have we discussed how dumb the notch is lately


its fuckin dumb.

he has always been dumb

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:

have we discussed how dumb the notch is lately


its fuckin dumb.

im unbothered by it.

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
notch-hating is the laziest, most pointless troll. oh no, my phone uses the space around the speaker and front-facing camera to show information, which is bad somehow. i wish instead it used the main rectangle of my screen for that information so that my screen was just a full line of text shorter forever. having a smaller screen on a device the same size is good

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



notch is fine

It just works.

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



rjmccall posted:

notch-hating is the laziest, most pointless troll. oh no, my phone uses the space around the speaker and front-facing camera to show information, which is bad somehow. i wish instead it used the main rectangle of my screen for that information so that my screen was just a full line of text shorter forever. having a smaller screen on a device the same size is good

you took my take

give it back

wait. i guess we can share

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

rjmccall posted:

notch-hating is the laziest, most pointless troll. oh no, my phone uses the space around the speaker and front-facing camera to show information, which is bad somehow. i wish instead it used the main rectangle of my screen for that information so that my screen was just a full line of text shorter forever. having a smaller screen on a device the same size is good
the notched display shows less information at the top than regular. it's stupid.

same as complaining about bezels. like oh boy the screen goes all the way to the bottom, who gives a gently caress.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
the notch is more annoying in landscape because then it really does feel like it cuts into space that should be content

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe

Chris Knight posted:

the notched display shows less information at the top than regular. it's stupid.

it’s got a clock, battery, and signal strength. what information are you missing. do you urgently miss being told what wireless carrier you’re using. are you one of those people who have thirty icons in their windows system tray because it makes you feel like a power user

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

the iphone notch is at least well-proportioned/designed, and the bezel around the screen is equal width the whole way around except for the notch

some android phones came up with some deranged notches in comparison

rjmccall
Sep 7, 2007

no worries friend
Fun Shoe
maybe we can add a couple toolbars, a navigation bar, and a ~ribbon~ to the basic phone ui so that the full capabilities of the phone are available at the press of a button and we’ll finally get a good write-up in pc magazine

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

rjmccall posted:

it’s got a clock, battery, and signal strength. what information are you missing. do you urgently miss being told what wireless carrier you’re using. are you one of those people who have thirty icons in their windows system tray because it makes you feel like a power user

fuckin this. i just checked and the sum total of the difference between my 8 and XR is that when i have slack open, my 8 can show what wireless carrier i'm on. critical info

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




carry on then posted:

the iphone notch is at least well-proportioned/designed, and the bezel around the screen is equal width the whole way around except for the notch

some android phones came up with some deranged notches in comparison



that notch is saying “feed me”

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Jonny 290 posted:

fuckin this. i just checked and the sum total of the difference between my 8 and XR is that when i have slack open, my 8 can show what wireless carrier i'm on. critical info

my 12 mini shows my carrier in the top left next to the notch if the screen is locked, and the time if it's unlocked

Shala
Oct 15, 2006

i shot the pilot

Lipstick Apathy

haveblue posted:

the notch is more annoying in landscape because then it really does feel like it cuts into space that should be content

i just watch my pornography on a monitor like a real appreciator

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
both carrier name and battery percent appear if you open the control panel, on the no-notch phones both of those could be permanently visible

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



yospos: phones are too big
also yospos: phones should have bezels so the screen is the same size as a smaller phone without bezels

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

carry on then posted:

the iphone notch is at least well-proportioned/designed, and the bezel around the screen is equal width the whole way around except for the notch

some android phones came up with some deranged notches in comparison



looks like a lil robot hehe

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Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

The one thing I miss from the notchless phones was Bluetooth accessory battery display always visible. well that and a home button, but that's only notch adjacent

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