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You have caused me to wonder. What is the state of the best available racing AI that can be run on a console or PC of the current generation? I'd love to read a breakdown of what has been coded, what works, and what is missing. What is in development (specifically in the area of racecarmans' AI) currently? What is the current state?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB9lf7iJbRw I always thought drivatars were the peak racing AI...is that not the case?
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Aug 14, 2021 06:49
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Well, the drivatars learn very very bad habits from people who only drive that way in SP. Like, I have time to game but my girlfriend is working as a call-agent for an ethics hotline, right? So jumping in voice chat is out of the question most nights, so I end up playing a lot of SP (also I can't stand griefers.) When I read that there exists sims in which the drivers show awareness of their surroundings (this is like the bare minimum and I've yet to experience it) I wanna know if anyone's got a solid AI shaping up and will it drive other sims to follow suit? Like I said, I was merely wondering.
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Aug 15, 2021 04:53
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drivatars are great if only because i've had people post in forza threads about how much of a total rear end in a top hat mine always is, since i habitually pit ai drivers in single player multiple times per race lmao
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Aug 15, 2021 04:54
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O word? I was just talking about how not-great that is. It isn't.
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Aug 15, 2021 07:07
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maybe to you it isn't, personally i wouldn't want my drivatar to be anything less than a total rear end in a top hat at all times to everyone, or for anyone else's to not be an rear end in a top hat to me. beats the old days of racing against the gran turismo ai that just rigidly sticks to the racing line and never attempts any passes.
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Aug 15, 2021 17:06
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Does it, though? Nah. Belligerent rear end in a top hat drivatars do not improve the SP experience in any way. If you had your way I bet your drivatar would also need to be muted because it never shuts the gently caress up. 
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Aug 15, 2021 20:34
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This high stakes super 7 poo poo is the worst thing ever put in these games. Been trying to do this one because there is supposedly a horizon backstage pass at the end. Just endless impossible drag strip bullshit.
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Aug 16, 2021 20:55
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toplitzin posted:https://www.newegg.com/product-shuffle Sweet thank you I am ON this e: out of curiosity how long did you enter for before you were drawn? Play fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Aug 17, 2021 |
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Aug 16, 2021 21:43
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Wiltsghost posted:This high stakes super 7 poo poo is the worst thing ever put in these games. Been trying to do this one because there is supposedly a horizon backstage pass at the end. Just endless impossible drag strip bullshit. super 7 in general is really half-baked and not good. i do love the idea, and i hope it's in horizon 5 in a far better capacity, because as-is it seems like they didn't know how to tie any of it together in a way that was actually fun. there also needs to be a better curation system for exactly the reason you said. endless dumb drag trip poo poo where you have to immediately reverse at the start because you're up against an armco is hot garbage.
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Aug 16, 2021 22:44
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:super 7 in general is really half-baked and not good. i do love the idea, and i hope it's in horizon 5 in a far better capacity, because as-is it seems like they didn't know how to tie any of it together in a way that was actually fun. What is Super 7? I mostly played single player and it doesn't really ring a bell.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:24
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Super 7 is player made "challenges", where you get set a thing and have to beat the creators time/score with a specific car. You do 7 of them in a row, and the hardcore one only dishes out rewards when you decide to stop. Most of the challenges are really bad drag races where you need to beat a top speed but since the creator just mashed the throttle the tolerances for actually beating it are fairly tight. And the default start position at the drag strip at the festival is literally with the car's nose against a barrier, which is dumb. It's entirely playable single-player so you can try it out, but it's... not great.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:35
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AirRaid posted:Super 7 is player made "challenges", where you get set a thing and have to beat the creators time/score with a specific car. You do 7 of them in a row, and the hardcore one only dishes out rewards when you decide to stop. Most of the challenges are really bad drag races where you need to beat a top speed but since the creator just mashed the throttle the tolerances for actually beating it are fairly tight. And the default start position at the drag strip at the festival is literally with the car's nose against a barrier, which is dumb. Well that seems kinda dumb. In multiple ways. But especially starting with the car up against the barrier? Probably done better by Dirt 5 and the course editor that one has, it was actually pretty fun playing different courses that people created.
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Aug 17, 2021 16:43
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i hope F5 really gets better network connections. I can't be assed to figure out why forza's the only thing I can't play online.
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Aug 17, 2021 19:20
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I posted about this yesterday, and I'm now done even playing this super 7 stuff anymore but I can't believe the shoddy quality of this. I had one where I had to hit 246 at speed trap. Easy enough I figure. The top speed of the car is 205. Had a drag race to do. Those aren't too hard. Have to hit 188. Car won't go higher than 175 in the room I have, backed up all the way to the barrier. I really hope they at least try to fix this stuff in the next game because they put zero effort into this one.
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Aug 18, 2021 05:52
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tater_salad posted:i hope F5 really gets better network connections. I can't be assed to figure out why forza's the only thing I can't play online. Did you by chance change your GamerTag after playing Forza for a bit? If so, try logging out and logging back in at the opening menu. It worked for me a while back.
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Aug 18, 2021 06:01
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isk posted:Did you by chance change your GamerTag after playing Forza for a bit? If so, try logging out and logging back in at the opening menu. It worked for me a while back. I have not change my gamertag ever.. I just can't ever join forza live I was able to play it online for a long time, I took a break awhile ago and when I got back in I had issues. Maybe i"ll try the log out / back in if I see the option.
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Aug 18, 2021 13:25
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tater_salad posted:I have not change my gamertag ever.. I just can't ever join forza live I was able to play it online for a long time, I took a break awhile ago and when I got back in I had issues. Maybe i"ll try the log out / back in if I see the option.
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Aug 18, 2021 14:11
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Less Fat Luke posted:Have you changed internet providers or equipment, like modems our routers between your PC and your internet connection? Maybe.. I can't remember if I was able to get online after I moved or not. Direct wired connection to router which is ethernet directly to the FIOS box in the basement. I've had like zero issues with anything outside of FH4, iracing.. fine, Arma3 fine (even hosting servers) other random steam games fine work fine. FH4 does not. And partially I can't be assed to try and fix it due to t he fact the new one's coming out.
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Aug 18, 2021 14:26
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tater_salad posted:i hope F5 really gets better network connections. I can't be assed to figure out why forza's the only thing I can't play online. If you're on PC its probably because of teredo tunneling. I've posted about it before in this thread but type "xbox networking" in your start menu and do the tests there and if it shows you have a restricted connection in any way thats gonna be the cause.
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Aug 18, 2021 15:36
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hopterque posted:If you're on PC its probably because of teredo tunneling. I've posted about it before in this thread but type "xbox networking" in your start menu and do the tests there and if it shows you have a restricted connection in any way thats gonna be the cause. Thanks for this.. Yeah I'm looking through it.. xbox says teredo isn't working.. I've gone through so many flipping steps on how to get it to work.
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Aug 18, 2021 16:47
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tater_salad posted:Thanks for this.. Yeah I'm looking through it.. xbox says teredo isn't working.. I've gone through so many flipping steps on how to get it to work. I think this page has the various troubleshooting steps. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...2d-a0e492d47f50
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Aug 18, 2021 17:01
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hopterque posted:If you're on PC its probably because of teredo tunneling. I've posted about it before in this thread but type "xbox networking" in your start menu and do the tests there and if it shows you have a restricted connection in any way thats gonna be the cause. I was gonna say it almost certainly has something to do with that drat Microsoft storefront it launches from. Then I realized I had no idea if that was true or not. But it FELT true
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Aug 18, 2021 17:04
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Brain Curry posted:I think this page has the various troubleshooting steps. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...2d-a0e492d47f50 hey thanks.. 40 mins of troubleshooting and this is the line that did it in CMD run as admin: netsh interface teredo set state type=enterpriseclient reinstalled network adapters, hosed around with my router, did all the MS suggested registry edits etc nothing worked.
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Aug 18, 2021 17:13
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tater_salad posted:hey thanks.. 40 mins of troubleshooting and this is the line that did it in CMD run as admin: netsh interface teredo set state type=enterpriseclient Oh yeah, pretty sure that’s the one that fixed it for me too back in the day
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Aug 18, 2021 17:14
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I wish Forza Rewards wasn't so drat inconsistent in terms of updates. I'm so close to being level 13, I just need to bank the most recent points I've theoretically earned in FH4 over the past few days to get me there but alas.... Is there any word yet on starting bonuses for FH5,?
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Aug 18, 2021 20:14
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Why tf did I never look at the gifts tab in the message center. I probably have a hundred wheelspins in there and a bunch of other stuff. Holy poo poo I'm an idiot lol. On another note, the reason why I looked is that I preordered FH4 however long ago that was and only got 3 of however many preorder cars there were. Was I supposed to get all of them? edit: found the Merc preorder car in the gifts tab, still missing the Porsche, Ford and Chevy pre order cars. Wiltsghost fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Aug 18, 2021 21:35
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I got Horizon 4 via Game Pass and it owns bones. Got a 50k deal on the Forza Edition Caterham, but it seems unable to go in a straight line. Oh well, it's still a car, and plenty of stuff to do. I'm beelining for the 2m house, to have fast travel
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Aug 18, 2021 22:50
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Serperoth posted:I got Horizon 4 via Game Pass and it owns bones. Got a 50k deal on the Forza Edition Caterham, but it seems unable to go in a straight line. Oh well, it's still a car, and plenty of stuff to do. I'm beelining for the 2m house, to have fast travel If you want.. put up a car (any car it can be something you bought or some piece of poo poo you won) for sale for like I dunno 5 or 10 milllion.. tell me what car and I'll buy it from you! edit: the early grind is a little rough but after awhile you just print money doing races and stuff. tater_salad fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Aug 18, 2021 |
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Aug 18, 2021 23:01
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Serperoth posted:I got Horizon 4 via Game Pass and it owns bones. Got a 50k deal on the Forza Edition Caterham, but it seems unable to go in a straight line. Oh well, it's still a car, and plenty of stuff to do. I'm beelining for the 2m house, to have fast travel The Caterham FE comes pre upgraded for drifting. You should be able to remove the upgrades and have a more stock Caterham
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Aug 19, 2021 00:01
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the stock caterham is very good at going in a straight line right over the side of the curve and into the woods
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Aug 19, 2021 00:08
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tater_salad posted:If you want.. put up a car (any car it can be something you bought or some piece of poo poo you won) for sale for like I dunno 5 or 10 milllion.. tell me what car and I'll buy it from you! I was going to say, I don't want to impose, but it feels like after you've done your big spends it stops being such a struggle. The only car I can put up for a decent chunk is a Ferrari 250LM that I have I believe, I think I need to do some tuning or making liveries to unlock setting a higher buyout price, right? hexwren posted:the stock caterham is very good at going in a straight line Ah so it's tuned identically to every other car in my possession, I see  I got carried by some folks for the offroad championship thing yesterday, which was nice. I need a "Sorry for scrubbing, thanks for carrying me" chat response.
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Aug 19, 2021 11:09
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Serperoth posted:I was going to say, I don't want to impose, but it feels like after you've done your big spends it stops being such a struggle. I dunno it's been awhile since i"ve put anything up on the auction house / player market.
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Aug 19, 2021 12:52
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:drivatars are great if only because i've had people post in forza threads about how much of a total rear end in a top hat mine always is, since i habitually pit ai drivers in single player multiple times per race lmao lmao hard same. Pits and nudges into unbreakable scenery while honking the kraken in an ahegao liveried shitbox
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Aug 21, 2021 06:11
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my drivatar is probably an rear end in a top hat, but not like the malicious kind, more like "you dumb rear end in a top hat" as I repeatedly fail to slow down enough for big turns and accidentally crash into all the cars in front of me
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Aug 21, 2021 20:33
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super fart shooter posted:my drivatar is probably an rear end in a top hat, but not like the malicious kind, more like "you dumb rear end in a top hat" as I repeatedly fail to slow down enough for big turns and accidentally crash into all the cars in front of me Can't crash into the wall while turning if you crash into a competitor while turning.
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Aug 21, 2021 23:37
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super fart shooter posted:my drivatar is probably an rear end in a top hat, but not like the malicious kind, more like "you dumb rear end in a top hat" as I repeatedly fail to slow down enough for big turns and accidentally crash into all the cars in front of me My drivatar is definitely an rear end in a top hat, because when I'm playing single player I'm driving dirty as gently caress. AI players don't deserve respect, they're just obstacles.
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Aug 23, 2021 01:12
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Serperoth posted:Can't crash into the wall while turning if you crash into a competitor while turning. 
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Aug 23, 2021 05:51
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I never experienced much issue with Drivatars ramming me or the like, it feels to me like they are quite docile and will brake conservatively in an effort to avoid collisions. I'd actually like to see at least the option to make the AI more aggressive in FH5, right now, it can be difficult to overtake them but once you're in front, they're generally very easy to keep behind you.
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This looks so drat good. Gotta admit, got some goosebumps when that dnb kicked in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY2GX_7wR7Y
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