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Anyone else bothered that Thor was killed by a regular human arrow?
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Aug 26, 2021 14:08
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Not really, he was stripped of his power when Odin sent him to Earth. In the movie we saw him taken out by a taser, why wouldn't an arrow to the heart kills him?
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Aug 26, 2021 14:18
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howe_sam posted:Not really, he was stripped of his power when Odin sent him to Earth. In the movie we saw him taken out by a taser, why wouldn't an arrow to the heart kills him? Ah I forgot that. Thanks. I bet Odin feels stupid.
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Aug 26, 2021 14:20
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Zero One posted:Ah I forgot that. Thanks. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c80b6080-95fd-4f74-96d5-a188c95e9e25 it's oden(loki) saying oh poo poo if you dont want to click
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Aug 26, 2021 14:31
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Much like 'Thanos is good now' from last week, I think the Thor death is the single thing that broke my suspense of disbelief here. Hank's justification of 'oh you were going to sign him up' was just so forced and lacking in credibility that it took me out of what was otherwise a pretty good story.
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Aug 26, 2021 14:40
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Eh, Hank is pretty off the rails by then. He's probably there to kill Clint but then sees Fury is interested in Thor and takes the time to make Clint's arrow slip. Murder of opportunity.
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Aug 26, 2021 15:18
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Ccs posted:Animation was a huge step down this episode. I dunno if anyone watches the credits but it was a different studio than the first two. Nothing flowed as well, lip sync was especially spotty, characters didn’t look as much like their actors... just a big dip. I dunno, I actually found the animation to be pretty great (especially during the finale fight in the graveyard) and thought Fury, and Loki looked especially like Jackson and Hiddleston.
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Aug 26, 2021 16:23
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The AV Club continues to be terrible. This week the reviewer spends a good portion complaining that What If retconed the timeline to make IM2, Thor, and Incredible Hulk happen in the same week. A step too far, they say. Of course those movies themselves (plus a one shot short) had already established that as the correct timeline.
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Aug 26, 2021 16:41
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Zero One posted:The AV Club continues to be terrible. This week the reviewer spends a good portion complaining that What If retconed the timeline to make IM2, Thor, and Incredible Hulk happen in the same week. A step too far, they say. Lol, the AV club what if reviews continue to not be good. Not surprised after I read the first episode’s review.
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Aug 26, 2021 16:48
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Zero One posted:The AV Club continues to be terrible. This week the reviewer spends a good portion complaining that What If retconed the timeline to make IM2, Thor, and Incredible Hulk happen in the same week. A step too far, they say. Tbf the fact of them being in the very same week seems to be a fandom/Word of God thing that I wasn’t even aware of until I saw the ep itself. Not surprised that a casual reviewer didn’t know either.
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Aug 26, 2021 16:52
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Cross-Section posted:Tbf the fact of them being in the very same week seems to be a fandom/Word of God thing that I wasn’t even aware of until I saw the ep itself. Not surprised that a casual reviewer didn’t know either. In Iron Man 2 Coulson tells Stark that he's leaving The Hulk stuff isn't quite as obvious and I don't blame people for forgetting any of it but it was well established at the time.
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Aug 26, 2021 17:03
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All of them explicitly happen around the same time in the films themselves. At the end of Iron Man 2 Fury has the news footage of the Hulk incident on a screen as it plays out and Coulson leaves in the middle of the film because he's called away to deal with the Hammer.
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Aug 26, 2021 17:04
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Ahhh, I don’t remember any of those tidbits but tbf it’s been like… 5 or 6 years since I last saw those films.
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Aug 26, 2021 17:16
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:
Is this not how literally every tv whodunit works?
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Aug 26, 2021 17:20
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Bulky Bartokomous posted:Also am I being a typical Goon and missing something that was clearly stated or did figuring this mystery out hinge entirely on something unique to this universe that we as the viewers were unaware of (Hope being dead)? I called it pretty early on. As soon as Betty mentioned nano-tech, in fact. We already knew Hank had beef with SHIELD, and he's one of the few people with powers who was active before the Avenger's first Assembled. The shrinking tech easily explained how Clint was killed without anyone noticing. When Widow was attacked, I thought for a split second it might have been Ghost instead, but then Natasha shrunk away and it just confirmed my suspicions. The Hope part was just to round out his motivations and explain why he didn't go homicidal in the main continuity.
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Aug 26, 2021 17:55
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I just want Clark Gregg to play Coulson forever
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Aug 26, 2021 18:15
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Cross-Section posted:Tbf the fact of them being in the very same week seems to be a fandom/Word of God thing that I wasn’t even aware of until I saw the ep itself. Not surprised that a casual reviewer didn’t know either. Yeah but also tbf you're not claiming it ruins your suspension of disbelief and calling it a "cheat" in a published review. Couple of minutes of research might've done the reviewer some good.
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Aug 26, 2021 18:22
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the poster... https://twitter.com/Marvel/status/1430953198408306690?s=19 
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Aug 26, 2021 19:07
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I thought the episode did a really good job suggesting red herrings for the viewer. Very early, we see Black Widow being escorted away by Rumlow. We know Rumlow is corrupt and Fury suggests that Stark's death is a sabotage from within SHIELD. We know more than Fury does about HYDRA, including how they have experience murdering Starks and making it seem like an accident. We're led to believe that, okay, this is a reality where HYDRA finishes the job and takes out Tony Stark. But then the Thor dies and it's such a confusing way that it seems impossible for HYDRA. It can't be them. When Clint dies in his white prison cell despite there being no signs of any visitor, by design it feels a lot like the scene in Thor where Thor is in the same room and Loki is able to visit him without anyone being aware. Magic makes sense and Loki doing it makes sense. Surely, the original Avengers villain is behind it all. Even when Loki arrives to get vengeance, he's still suspect. He was going to try and kill Thor shortly after anyway and scheming is his thing. It isn't until Hulk dies DURING Loki's confrontation with Fury that he seems innocent. Plus Hulk's death is so shocking and weird that by that point the viewer doesn't know what to think anymore.
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Aug 26, 2021 19:11
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Gavok posted:I thought the episode did a really good job suggesting red herrings for the viewer. I thought we were going to get another ‘Before we start, does anyone want to get off?’ from Natasha.
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Aug 26, 2021 19:25
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I know people assume that she was shot by the Winter Soldier but I wouldn’t bet against her being in the Quantum Realm.
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Aug 26, 2021 19:46
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X-O posted:All of them explicitly happen around the same time in the films themselves. At the end of Iron Man 2 Fury has the news footage of the Hulk incident on a screen as it plays out and Coulson leaves in the middle of the film because he's called away to deal with the Hammer. One of the tie-ins for Avengers 2012 was a one-shot comic about "Fury's Big Week" too.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:14
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glitchwraith posted:I called it pretty early on. As soon as Betty mentioned nano-tech, in fact. We already knew Hank had beef with SHIELD, and he's one of the few people with powers who was active before the Avenger's first Assembled. The shrinking tech easily explained how Clint was killed without anyone noticing. When Widow was attacked, I thought for a split second it might have been Ghost instead, but then Natasha shrunk away and it just confirmed my suspicions. The Hope part was just to round out his motivations and explain why he didn't go homicidal in the main continuity. There's also a flash of Hope's name with an X through it in a file Natasha reads.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:22
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TinTower posted:One of the tie-ins for Avengers 2012 was a one-shot comic about "Fury's Big Week" too. Well one of the tie in comics also had Iron Man fighting Fin Fang Foom so I wouldn't take much from that.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:23
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X-O posted:Well one of the tie in comics also had Iron Man fighting Fin Fang Foom so I wouldn't take much from that. did that comic ever finish?
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Aug 26, 2021 21:39
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Timby posted:Everything about The Defenders--outside of everyone regularly dunking on Danny Rand--was boring and terrible. There was also that one bit that was entirely "what are you doing here?" "what are you doing here?". That's about it.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:41
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Strom Cuzewon posted:There was also that one bit that was entirely "what are you doing here?" "what are you doing here?". Or how everyone's instinct was to fight each other on the first encounter.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:43
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Gavok posted:I thought the episode did a really good job suggesting red herrings for the viewer. This is pretty spot on how I was going through it. Thanks for putting it into words for me.
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Aug 26, 2021 21:50
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Gavok posted:I thought the episode did a really good job suggesting red herrings for the viewer. Along these lines, I was sure it was a clue that Thor's corpse smelled like lavender. Like a hint that some kind of sweet-smelling poison or chemical was involved. But instead that's just something about Thor that's true, canonically, not part of the divergence at all.
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Aug 26, 2021 22:20
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Everyone being horny for Hemsworth is a great gag and I hope they just run with it hard in love & thunder
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Aug 26, 2021 22:25
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TK-42-1 posted:Everyone being horny for Hemsworth is a great gag and I hope they just run with it hard in love & thunder We gotta thank James Gunn and/or Taika for starting the being horny for Thor gag.  The Guardians (minus Quill) being hot for Thor was among my favorite parts of Infinity War.
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Aug 26, 2021 22:47
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Desperado Bones posted:We gotta thank James Gunn and/or Taika for starting the being horny for Thor gag. Agents of SHIELD had a bunch of horny for Thor moments.
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Aug 26, 2021 22:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrgeCuKPz4
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Aug 26, 2021 23:21
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Gavok posted:I thought the episode did a really good job suggesting red herrings for the viewer. I like how they probably negotiated to have Michael Douglas's name omitted out of the opening credits. That's a bit of meta that needs to be appreciated as well.
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Aug 26, 2021 23:31
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The internet is fast.
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Aug 27, 2021 01:23
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Desperado Bones posted:We gotta thank James Gunn and/or Taika for starting the being horny for Thor gag. Pretty sure Ma and Pa Hemsworth are the ones to thank for everyone being horny for Thor.
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Aug 27, 2021 01:32
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Strange was really weird and careless in the Spiderman trailer, he's Mephisto. Especially with the comic it's based from. On the other hand, it's definitely them just trolling us. Which I love.
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Aug 27, 2021 02:11
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Pretty sure Ma and Pa Hemsworth are the ones to thank for everyone being horny for Thor. Luke just got a semi and doesn’t know why
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Aug 27, 2021 02:12
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TK-42-1 posted:Luke just got a semi and doesn’t know why They couldn't have a three uber hot sons. It would had ended the world as we know it.
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Aug 27, 2021 02:47
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It's wild seeing people criticize a cartoon show who's whole point is just to do ridiculous stuff.
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Aug 27, 2021 03:13
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